kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 The AARP supports is, right. Which is why over 10,000 seniors have dropped memberships to the AARP. That was my point earlier. Good. Damn old people control the freaking world with that organization... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Actually, the AARP supports it --- though the GOP is WAY overplaying their importance now (AARP's endorsement is a "gold medal" or something for these kinda of bills --- might cause problems when the AARP disagrees in the future). If all seniors vote the way the AARP tells them to, does that mean all blacks vote the way Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and BET and the NAACP tell them to? I think you're oversimplifying here. AARP delivers millions of votes every election. God knows how or why. Heck, they're old --- they probably are confused or something. -=Mike ...Yes, I'm kidding about the last part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 29, 2003 The AARP supports is, right. Which is why over 10,000 seniors have dropped memberships to the AARP. That was my point earlier. Honestly, 10,000 people to AARP is statistically insignificant. They are, I believe, the largest special interest group in America. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Good. Damn old people control the freaking world with that organization... The illuminati is real, and the illuminati wear dentures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 The AARP supports is, right. Which is why over 10,000 seniors have dropped memberships to the AARP. That was my point earlier. Honestly, 10,000 people to AARP is statistically insignificant. They are, I believe, the largest special interest group in America. -=Mike Well wait until the bill takes effect and see how high that number jumps to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 29, 2003 The AARP supports is, right. Which is why over 10,000 seniors have dropped memberships to the AARP. That was my point earlier. Honestly, 10,000 people to AARP is statistically insignificant. They are, I believe, the largest special interest group in America. -=Mike Well wait until the bill takes effect and see how high that number jumps to. Good. Anything that kills the AARP is a good thing. Sad thing is, this bill actually HELPS geezers and they hate it because it doesn't help enough. Selfish pricks. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2003 Actually the bill mainly helps insurance companies. Big shocker there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 30, 2003 Actually the bill mainly helps insurance companies. Big shocker there. Every bill allegedly helps the insurance companies more than anybody else. The bill should have never passed as it is an economic boondoggle and one that should have never been proposed --- much less passed. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cartman 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2003 Actually the bill mainly helps insurance companies. Big shocker there. Every bill allegedly helps the insurance companies more than anybody else. The bill should have never passed as it is an economic boondoggle and one that should have never been proposed --- much less passed. -=Mike Well at least I can half agree with you there. History has been made! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted December 2, 2003 Taking this thread a little back on track, I'm going to agree that Kerry should have been there to vote. I know it's idealistic, but I think that senators should do there job even if they happen to be campaigning for another position. On the side, has Kerry done anything right to date in this election. At the beginning I thought the nomination was his to lose, and I guess he's done a pretty good job of losing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted December 2, 2003 Being from Massachusetts, I can state that Kerry has never been the frontrunner in this damn thing. He is well known in the Northeast, but nobody else has ever heard of him. He hasn't done a good job on showing his views, unlike Howard Dean. Dean, although sometimes getting himself in trouble with his mouth, at least tries to show his views. Kerry has done nothing, and therefore gets no support. I feel bad for the guy; he's done so much more for MA politics than Teddy has ever thought of doing. He deserves at least a run at the White House, or maybe becoming a VP candidate for Dean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2003 Kerry's biggest problem -- as I've stated several times -- is that he looks and sounds like he's dead. I heard he had prostate surgery sometime before the election cycle began (well, 2002ish), and it's been widely speculated in liberal circles that Kerry hasn't fully recovered his energy at all from that. I believe it; his campaigning has been shabby at best, and he's suffered from hiring utterly incompetent advisors (Jim Jordan, who was recently fired, comes to mind). He's basically run the worst campaign possible -- calling himself the frontrunner and then doing nothing to solidify it -- and doesn't have the image to support himself. Kerry DOES have good views on the issues, but he simply can't project them because he's either... A) Too tired B) Too busy attacking Dean C) Too busy looking at the polls. It's the difference between an inside-the-Beltway democrat and an outside-the-Beltway one; you need to be a fresh face to endear yourself to the public if you're going to be the "insider" type. He wouldn't make a good VP candidate, methinks, and I think the eventual nominee would be making a big mistake by picking him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted December 3, 2003 Kerry's biggest problem -- as I've stated several times -- is that he looks and sounds like he's dead. I heard he had prostate surgery sometime before the election cycle began (well, 2002ish), and it's been widely speculated in liberal circles that Kerry hasn't fully recovered his energy at all from that. I believe it; his campaigning has been shabby at best, and he's suffered from hiring utterly incompetent advisors (Jim Jordan, who was recently fired, comes to mind). He's basically run the worst campaign possible -- calling himself the frontrunner and then doing nothing to solidify it -- and doesn't have the image to support himself. Kerry DOES have good views on the issues, but he simply can't project them because he's either... A) Too tired B) Too busy attacking Dean C) Too busy looking at the polls. It's the difference between an inside-the-Beltway democrat and an outside-the-Beltway one; you need to be a fresh face to endear yourself to the public if you're going to be the "insider" type. He wouldn't make a good VP candidate, methinks, and I think the eventual nominee would be making a big mistake by picking him. But...but...he served in Vietnam! Does that mean nothing??? (Ok I swear that 's the last Kerry/Vietnam joke I'll make in this thread) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted December 3, 2003 But...but...he served in Vietnam! Does that mean nothing??? (Ok I swear that 's the last Kerry/Vietnam joke I'll make in this thread) WHAT? KERRY SERVED IN VIETNAM? GET THE HECK OUTTA TOWN! -=Mike ...Relax, his candidacy will be dead and gone and this running joke will end soon enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted December 3, 2003 QUOTE (cerebus316 @ Dec 3 2003, 03:12 AM) But...but...he served in Vietnam! Does that mean nothing??? (Ok I swear that 's the last Kerry/Vietnam joke I'll make in this thread) WHAT? KERRY SERVED IN VIETNAM? GET THE HECK OUTTA TOWN! -=Mike ...Relax, his candidacy will be dead and gone and this running joke will end soon enough No way. Just wait till he becomes the VP candidate. Oh my. Boy do the Democrats need to get their acts together. Although I think that either Dean-Sharpton or Dean-Kerry would be a fantastic combination. No joking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted December 3, 2003 Boy do the Democrats need to get their acts together. Although I think that either Dean-Sharpton or Dean-Kerry would be a fantastic combination. No joking. Now THAT'S comedy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justice 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2003 Boy do the Democrats need to get their acts together. Although I think that either Dean-Sharpton or Dean-Kerry would be a fantastic combination. No joking. ... The Democratic ticket continues to plummet like a wounded duck. Seriously, if Dean (Who honestly looks like he'll take the nomination) wants a chance to win he should consider running alone with this field of candidates... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted December 3, 2003 QUOTE (cerebus316 @ Dec 3 2003, 03:12 AM) But...but...he served in Vietnam! Does that mean nothing??? (Ok I swear that 's the last Kerry/Vietnam joke I'll make in this thread) WHAT? KERRY SERVED IN VIETNAM? GET THE HECK OUTTA TOWN! -=Mike ...Relax, his candidacy will be dead and gone and this running joke will end soon enough No way. Just wait till he becomes the VP candidate. Oh my. Boy do the Democrats need to get their acts together. Although I think that either Dean-Sharpton or Dean-Kerry would be a fantastic combination. No joking. If Kerry couldn't win his own state in a primary --- which he might not --- then then how much good is he? I HOPE they pick Kerry as VP. Just dig a little more of that hole out. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2003 They'll probably take one of the Democratic governors, like Richardson. The only one of the candidates that might be VP worthy is Edwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2003 I think Clark is unfortunately going to wind up as the VP of whoever wins so that said candidate does not look weak on defense. Edwards said on NPR about a week ago he wasn't interested in the VP job at all. I don't completely agree with every vote he's ever made, but he'd be perfectly electable if he'd only get some energy when he speaks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted December 3, 2003 I think Clark is unfortunately going to wind up as the VP of whoever wins so that said candidate does not look weak on defense. Doubtful, remember this was the guy who Cohen fired for hogging the spotlight too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites