Jonathon Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 So, I never read the issues in which Xorn was un-masked to be Magneto, so this might have been answered in those issues, but here's my question... Now, it's obvious that the helmet might have provided some form of blocking from telepaths, but wouldn't wolverine or some other mutant sniffed him out and recognized magneto's scent? Was that explained at all?
Steviekick Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 Maybe he used pheromones. I've never been a fan of New X-Men. I really have never been able to get into it.
Cran Da Maniac Posted December 10, 2003 Report Posted December 10, 2003 They never really make mention of it really. Kind of a goof on the WWE level if you ask me. Unless they just had Wolverine think it was a coincedence that this guy smells like Magneto, a person they believed was dead.
Guest The Last Free Voice Posted December 12, 2003 Report Posted December 12, 2003 Seeing how they had him block out all the telepaths, I don't think it is much of a strech to think he could trick Wolvie with telepethy, pheremones as was said, or something else.
converge241 Posted December 13, 2003 Report Posted December 13, 2003 i liked it until this revelation morrison is full of sh*t that they "planned it all along" IMO cause he said in many interviews he hated the character and wanted nothing to do with it..before he left marvel just probably pressure him into doing it you can only suspend your disbelief so much in comics if it has no internal logic and im sorry Mags would not do that for all that time
Sass Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 Fromer Rantsylvania/Smarks poster and now 411 writer Jesse "Judas" Baker discussed the Magneto/Xorn revelation a while back. Here. The point about Wolverine not being able to smell Magneto out is what makes many fans, myself included, feel that Morrison just pulled this out of his ass rather than having thought out the story ahead of time.
converge241 Posted December 18, 2003 Report Posted December 18, 2003 im so glad to see more people agree that he pulled it out of his ass i hope when he officially starts with dc maybe he will come forward and say marvel insisted that he do it..no excuse to lie and say he planned it along but would be nice to hear
Vyce Posted December 19, 2003 Report Posted December 19, 2003 I'm entirely sick of Magneto. He's the fucking HHH of the X-Men. ENOUGH. Kill him off, and LEAVE him dead for AT LEAST several YEARS. At least Claremont, in his last abortive run, tried to introduce new villains. It didn't work, but he tried something new, rather than just completely retread all of the old, tired characters.
converge241 Posted December 19, 2003 Report Posted December 19, 2003 everybody read NXmen 150 yet? SPOILER? didnt fn wolverine "kill" magneto the same way during eve of destruction or whatever the hell that last arc was before morrison took over? im pretty sure i saw that almost same scene wolverine just having enough and gutting him..speaking of deja vu ..wow jean's dead how will i get over that....
Jonathon Posted December 21, 2003 Author Report Posted December 21, 2003 The current issue of "wizard" has a boss preview of the new x-men story line. I'm liking the summers/frost relationship, and it's explored a teensy bit further in the preview. Let's hope scott and emma can stay together for at least a year... Emma gets my vote for best character of "x" comics for 2003.
HellSpawn Posted December 24, 2003 Report Posted December 24, 2003 I just asked the same smell issue a few weeks ago down here inMexico... same answer... No One knows.
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted December 28, 2003 Report Posted December 28, 2003 This could be Joseph if he's still alive. That way the real Magneto is dead but you can still bring him back.
Guest The Last Free Voice Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 Grant Morrison is my faveorite writer, let me get that out of the way. Also, this ark is the first I read in ever, but have since got the NXM tpb's vol 1 and 3. (2 was sold out) Now, I liked this ark. I loved it. I thought it was well written and the art was flat out AWESOME. Also, in re-reading the old stuff I can see a few moments of forshadowing. Although the return of Magneto and SPOILER Death of Jean END SPOILER Are a bit overdone, I think they work as a finale of Morrisons run on NXM. (His next ark is a future thing, so I don't count it) I also think that its catching alot of Crap, when people aren't giving it credit as a great story it really is.
pochorenella Posted December 29, 2003 Report Posted December 29, 2003 Morrison has said that all the clues that Xorn and Magneto were the same person can be found on New X-Men Annual 2001 (or is it 2002?), the one were Xorn debuts. So he claims that it was his intention from the very beginning. Still, I quite enjoyed issue 150, and in fact, most of his run, and I'm eagerly awaiting his futuristic final story arc. BTW, New X-Men 151 can be found in its entirety on the latest Wizard magazine, I believe #147. Interesting read and great art by Marc Silvestri.
Edwin MacPhisto Posted January 5, 2004 Report Posted January 5, 2004 Morrison has said that all the clues that Xorn and Magneto were the same person can be found on New X-Men Annual 2001 (or is it 2002?), the one were Xorn debuts. So he claims that it was his intention from the very beginning. Still, I quite enjoyed issue 150, and in fact, most of his run, and I'm eagerly awaiting his futuristic final story arc. BTW, New X-Men 151 can be found in its entirety on the latest Wizard magazine, I believe #147. Interesting read and great art by Marc Silvestri. There are a lot of other clues, too. Obviously spoilers below for all of Morrison's run up to this point, but if you're reading this thread I bet you don't need the warning... ...When Xorn kills the U-Men in the forest during the Riot At Xavier's storyline, then whispers to Angel that this can be "their little secret." When Xorn somehow uses a strength we'd never seen before to loosen the cement mixer and dump it on Herman (blobby guy on fire) at the end of the Riot at Xavier's storyline. Magnetism much? Xorn's selective healing, and the fact that the only time we ever really see him heal anyone is when he's "healing" the team and Xavier from the nano-sentinels. All he had to do was shut off their metal parts, which is relayed when he reveals that he was fusing Xavier's spine together with them. There's a pile of little clues. I don't really like how quickly the re-emergence of Magneto came and how fast, loose, and rushed the entire Planet X arc felt, but I do think that it was Morrison's intent that Xorn be Magneto the whole way through. The whole arc could have been remedied if the 9 issues of Assault On Weapon Plus and Planet X had been better integrated, kinda like the whole lengthy, multifaceted Cassandra Nova arc in Morrison's first year.
converge241 Posted January 6, 2004 Report Posted January 6, 2004 i did like the story itself i enjoyed his whole run he may have left little outs along the way (clues) but i just cant buy that was the intention all along
Sass Posted January 9, 2004 Report Posted January 9, 2004 Morrison has said that all the clues that Xorn and Magneto were the same person can be found on New X-Men Annual 2001 (or is it 2002?), the one were Xorn debuts. So he claims that it was his intention from the very beginning. Still, I quite enjoyed issue 150, and in fact, most of his run, and I'm eagerly awaiting his futuristic final story arc. BTW, New X-Men 151 can be found in its entirety on the latest Wizard magazine, I believe #147. Interesting read and great art by Marc Silvestri. It was New X-Men Annual 2001.
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