Strom Thurmond = Thomas Jefferson?

[MrRant 0]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2003Dec12.html

 

LONG ass article (4 pages) so I didn't post it.

[Guest JMA]

Wow. Just...wow.

 

The resemblance is uncanny.

[Guest MikeSC]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...-2003Dec12.html

 

LONG ass article (4 pages) so I didn't post it.

Completely irrelevant, but there is actually zero proof that Thomas Jefferson had a child with any former slave --- including Sally Hemmings.

 

A member of the Jefferson clan probably fathered one of her children --- but that narrows the number of dads down to about 20 or so.

 

There is zero proof that Thomas was the daddy.

-=Mike

[buffybeast 0]

but there is actually zero proof that Thomas Jefferson had a child with any former slave --- including Sally Hemmings.

 

Not true. Through genetic testing, Jefferson's desecendants conceded that the former President fathered one of Hemmings' children, Eston.

[Guest MikeSC]

but there is actually zero proof that Thomas Jefferson had a child with any former slave --- including Sally Hemmings.

 

Not true. Through genetic testing, Jefferson's desecendants conceded that the former President fathered one of Hemmings' children, Eston.

ACTUALLY, the genetic testing in question simply stated that a member of the Jefferson family who resided in Virginia fathered her children. It did not state Thomas --- the press seemed to gloss over that when the "story" broke.

 

Most historians doubt Thomas did it (Don't Know Much About History by Davis, Kenneth C.)

-=Mike

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Here's a smaller one.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/17/thurmond....nity/index.html

 

Thurmond's daughter: 'Tremendous weight' lifted

 

Retired teacher says she kept silent about father to protect him

 

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 Posted: 2:46 PM EST (1946 GMT)

 

(CNN) -- The daughter of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, a former segregationist, said Wednesday that she kept her mixed-race ancestry secret for decades out of respect for her father.

 

"I never wanted to do anything to harm him or cause detriment to his life or to the lives of those around him," Essie Mae Washington-Williams, a 78-year-old retired schoolteacher said at a news conference in Columbia, South Carolina.

 

"My father did a lot of things to help other people, even though his public stance appeared opposite.

 

"I was sensitive about his well-being and career and his family here in South Carolina."

 

Thurmond, the longest-serving senator in U.S. history, died in June at age 100.

 

Washington-Williams said she went public with the information after Thurmond's death -- and only then at the urging of her children. Her revelation first appeared Sunday in The Washington Post, but rumors have persisted for years.

 

"... My children deserve the right to know from whom, where and what they have come," she said. "I am committed in teaching them and helping them to learn about their past."

 

Visibly emotional, Washington-Williams said she was not angry or bitter.

 

"In fact, there's a great sense of peace that has come over me in the past year," she said. "Once I decided that I would no longer harbor such a great secret that many others knew, I feel as though a tremendous weight has been lifted.

 

"I am Essie Mae Washington-Williams and, at last, I feel completely free."

 

Washington-Williams has four children, 13 grandchildren and four great-grandchildren.

 

An attorney for the former senator's family confirmed Monday that Thurmond fathered a child with a teenage black housekeeper in 1925.

 

Thurmond ran for president in 1948 on the ticket of the States' Rights Democratic Party, or Dixiecrats, a breakaway faction of Southern Democrats who believed strongly in racial segregation and were opposed to their party's civil rights program.

 

He received 1 million votes and carried four Deep South states; Democrat Harry Truman won the election.

 

Thurmond joined the Republican Party in the 1960s and ultimately turned away from his segregationist past. (Thurmond's life and times)

 

Frank Wheaton, Washington-Williams' attorney, said his client has no plans to ask the Thurmond estate for any money, according to the Post.

 

Monday's statement from the Thurmond family reads: "As J. Strom Thurmond has passed away and cannot speak for himself, the Thurmond family acknowledges Ms. Essie Mae Washington-Williams' claim to her heritage. We hope this acknowledgment will bring closure for Ms. Williams."

 

The Thurmond family attorney, J. Mark Taylor, declined further comment.

 

Glenn Walters, a South Carolina attorney also representing Williams, told CNN he was happy that the matter had been resolved in this manner.

 

Washington-Williams reportedly was prepared to provide documentation and undergo a DNA test to prove her claim. Her attorney said no DNA test was done.

 

Her mother, Carrie Butler, worked as a maid at the Thurmond family home in Edgefield, South Carolina.

 

At the time of Washington-Williams' birth, Butler was 16 and Thurmond was 22, unmarried and living in his parents' home.

 

Butler's sister took the girl to live in Pennsylvania when she was 6 months old. She did not meet Thurmond until 1941 when she was 16.

 

Her mother, who was ill and died a short time later, had insisted on introducing her to Thurmond, who acknowledged her as his daughter, the Post reported.

 

Throughout the years, the two kept up a relationship despite the divide over race, Washington-Williams said.

 

"When my father became a United States senator, his communication and support continued" she said, and "his financial support was constant during various phases of my life. I knew him beyond his public image."

 

She said she tried -- to no avail -- to dissuade him of segregationist positions, which she didn't like and which produced "mixed emotions."

 

"I never did like the idea of his being a segregationist, but that was his life, and there wasn't anything I could do about that," she said.

 

She said the family secret wasn't airtight. She said she told her children when they were teenagers. When she visited her father in Washington, she said, "All of those on his staff knew exactly who I was."

 

CNN's David Mattingly contributed to this report.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I like how she waits until after he's dead to come forward so he can't dispute it.

[DMann2003 0]

I like how she waits until after he's dead to come forward so he can't dispute it.

His family came out and acknowledged she's his daughter, there's nothing to dispute.

[Guest JMA]

I like how she waits until after he's dead to come forward so he can't dispute it.

His family came out and acknowledged she's his daughter, there's nothing to dispute.

Ditto.

 

Besides that, just look how much she resembles him.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I like how she waits until after he's dead to come forward so he can't dispute it.

His family came out and acknowledged she's his daughter, there's nothing to dispute.

I'm not saying she isn't but it annoys me when people wait until after someone's dead to do things like this.

[Downhome 0]

I like how she waits until after he's dead to come forward so he can't dispute it.

His family came out and acknowledged she's his daughter, there's nothing to dispute.

I'm not saying she isn't but it annoys me when people wait until after someone's dead to do things like this.

Why does it annoy you? Had she officially went public with it while he was alive it would have ruined both of their lives in many ways. Strom's political career would have been hurt badly if not ruined (depending on when she went public with it), and her privacy would have officially been over. She went public with it after his death so that it wouldn't hurt her father's life at all. To me that's a great thing that she's done.

 

It wasn't really a secret where I live though, we've all known about it for years and years and years around here.

 

There's nothing to dispute as said before. She's his daughter, and that's the end of it. After seeing her interview on TV last night I believe it was, there is no doubt in my mind now that someone out there is busy on writing the screenplay for his life.

[Guest netslob]

Besides that, just look how much she resembles him.

 

that poor, poor woman.

[Nevermortal 0]

Sorry to bring up an old thread...

 

BUT SHE'S A MAN, BAY-BEE!

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Damnit, this thread belongs in the grave next to ol' Strom...

[Guest JMA]

Besides that, just look how much she resembles him.

 

that poor, poor woman.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Being an idiot, I accidentally thought it said Strom Thurmand = GEORGE Jefferson. LOL

 

Simple error.