Karnage 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 What games back in the 16 bit days that were released on both consoles sucked or were more awesome on one console than the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Genesis MK1 is superior to SNES MK1. MK II, MK3 and UMK3 are superior on SNES to Genesis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Oh god I remember my dad worked at Movies Etc. My brother had a Genesis in his room and I had an SNES in my room. The difference in MK's was absurd. And I thought the Genesis was supposed to be more powerful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Madden football on Genesis was better because of the injuries but only on the early editions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 MK1 Genesis vs. MK1 SNES can really go either way. SNES has far better graphics and sound effects, but Genesis has much faster and responsive gameplay. Genesis version even plays better than the arcade. Genesis also has more small details than SNES, like the pictures in the endings and bios. Though SNES does have Shang Tsung's death scene. Plus the blood issue... SNES MK II and MK3 are so superier to Genesis it shouldn't even be up for debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I think the reason why MK was so messed up on the SNES was because Nintendo forced Acclaim to remove all of the blood and other elements from the game, and there were several glitches in the game code as a result because of the developers having to quickly change the game to make it conform to Nintendo's standards. Still, though, I (unlike just about everyone else on the planet) preferred the SNES version to the Genesis version because I was a huge Nintendo fan back then (well, actually, I still am) and I thought graphics were everything. Now, I like them about equally, with the positives and negatives of each version cancelling out the others. Truthfully, the blood was never that important to me, and I still think Sub-Zero's SNES finisher was a lot more fitting for his character than simply ripping someone's head off (which, as cool as it may have been, in my opinion wasn't really that creative and got old pretty quick). Of course, that's just my opinion, and I probably won't find too many people who agree with any of my opinions on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 To mention another game: Even though they weren't exactly the same game, since they were made by different companies, Aladdin for the Genesis was much better than Aladdin for the Super NES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I like the SNES Raiden and Sub-Zero Fatalities. No blood, but still pretty cool. The Cage and Kano ones are just awful though. The blood on Genesis is overrated. It looks stupid, especially compared to the arcade. Like on arcade there is so much impact, with the chilling music and screams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted December 16, 2003 To mention another game: Even though they weren't exactly the same game, since they were made by different companies, Aladdin for the Genesis was much better than Aladdin for the Super NES. It's amazing, I was JUST thinking about that today. As an SNES gamer, I was jealous that the Genesis was able to make Aladdin look so much better than the SNES did. I'd have to say that all of the EA sports NHL games were better on the Genesis. Next to NHL 2004 on PC, I'd say NHL 94' on the Genesis is the best hockey game ever. Earthworm Jim was better on the Genesis simply because you got an EXTRA level to play. Unfair Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cavi 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 To add to the bit about the NHL games, I always thought the SNES versions of all of EA Sports' games were pretty weak when compared with the Genesis ones. The gameplay always felt sloppier to me. Would make sense that the versions were different since different teams did the games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Any EA sport game was better on Genesis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DVD Spree Report post Posted December 16, 2003 And I thought the Genesis was supposed to be more powerful. The SNES was always the most powerful 16-bit cartridge console. Well, I suppose the NEO GEO was, but nobody regards it as 16-bit, do they? I may as well add, redundantly, that all of the SNK ports were infintiely superior on the NEO GEO MVS/AVS than they were on the SNES or MegaDrive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Add another vote for Aladdin here. Also, the Genesis versions of Shadowrun and Robocop vs. Terminator were far superior to the SNES ones. Other than those, pretty much any game that was made for both systems tended to be better on the SNES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Sunset riders, the Snes version was just so much better (being a more accurate port). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the max 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I always thought that sports games in general were far better on Genesis, only because you didn't have 4 buttons so close together to get mixed up. Like Pass (X) and Shoot (Y) on NHLPA 93, I got them mixed up so many times that I blew at least 4 goals a game. With Sega, it was simple because you knew which button was which, and didn't have to look down for a split second. It could just be me though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skywarp! 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Basically just because of the controllers, most fighting games, with the notable exception of MK1, tended to be better on SNES. It was hard playing a game meant for 6 buttons on a 3 button controller (this argument is based on the controller you're supplied with, not the 6-button joypad that game out later). Even Eternal Champions, a game designed for Sega only, wasn't made to be 3-button friendly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 And I thought the Genesis was supposed to be more powerful. The SNES was always the most powerful 16-bit cartridge console. Well, I suppose the NEO GEO was, but nobody regards it as 16-bit, do they? The Genesis has faster processing speed than the SNES. The SNES has more colors and a better sound chip. Also, the controller can be an issue depending on the games. Case in point: the Street Fighter games. The SNES versions had more colors and better music. However, the Genesis 6-button controller is far better for playing it than the SNES one. Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game and TMNT: Tournament Fighters are so much better on Genesis it isn't even funny. The SNES versions of The Adventures of Batman and Robin (totally different game), Batman Returns (ditto), MKII and III are all better on SNES. Usually the SNES versions of games would be the better one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DVD Spree Report post Posted December 16, 2003 The Genesis has faster processing speed than the SNES. The SNES has more colors and a better sound chip. Yeah, the MegaDrive clocks a faster speed, but with the SNES' superior graphics hardware and specialist chipset, it processes far more efficiently. That's what I meant by most "powerful". I've also never understood anyone having problems with the SNES pad - it was an absolutely revolutionary design and the most comfortable and ergonomic to date. The damn thing was so good that it was immediately ripped off by Sony and nearly the same design is still effectively being used in today's Dual Shock pads. The MegaDrive's controllers were okay, but by the end they were just sticking more and awkwardly-sized buttons on damn near the same pad as tehir 3-button design. Worst pad honours still have to go to Xbox or Jaguar, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 (edited) I've also never understood anyone having problems with the SNES pad - it was an absolutely revolutionary design and the most comfortable and ergonomic to date. The damn thing was so good that it was immediately ripped off by Sony and nearly the same design is still effectively being used in today's Dual Shock pads. The MegaDrive's controllers were okay, but by the end they were just sticking more and awkwardly-sized buttons on damn near the same pad as tehir 3-button design. Worst pad honours still have to go to Xbox or Jaguar, though. It's more difficult to execute complex controller motions and hit the "L" button to pull off moves in fighting games than using the Genesis face buttons. The Genesis pad wasn't perfect, but the Saturn pad (that is, the Japanese version and the later, revised American ones) were excellent in my opinion. Yeah, the MegaDrive clocks a faster speed, but with the SNES' superior graphics hardware and specialist chipset, it processes far more efficiently. That's what I meant by most "powerful". It still has less than half the processing speed of the Genesis. Edited December 16, 2003 by AndrewTS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVenkman PhD 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 WWF Royal Rumble is a bit of a toss up... on the SNES, you have Ric Flair, but on the Genesis you have Rick Martel and Hulk Hogan (among other character swaps). I did like the ablity to be Hogan when the game finally came out for Genesis and was rented at my Genesis owning friend's house (I never owned the SNES version, apparently $102 Canadian was a bit much to spend on a game.. got Raw though). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 WWF Royal Rumble is a bit of a toss up... on the SNES, you have Ric Flair, but on the Genesis you have Rick Martel and Hulk Hogan (among other character swaps). I did like the ablity to be Hogan when the game finally came out for Genesis and was rented at my Genesis owning friend's house (I never owned the SNES version, apparently $102 Canadian was a bit much to spend on a game.. got Raw though). Hogan didn't want to risk jobbing to Flair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Anymore if I have a choice between buying a game for SNES or Genesis I always go for the SNES version. The SNES version always has slightly better graphics and always has better sound. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DVD Spree Report post Posted December 17, 2003 It still has less than half the processing speed of the Genesis. Not disputing that, and not trying to be an argumentative little shit either, but just because it had a faster processor doesn't mean it was the more powerful machine - it can be as fast as you like, but if the architecture and graphic chipsets are too sluggish to take advantage of it, it's still going to run sluggishly in comparison. Put a Ferrari engine in a station wagon and it doesn't matter how good the engine is, if all the other components aren't similar up to par, it's still going to get outperformed by other vehicles. Hence, the SNES is technically "less powerful" since it has a slower clock speed, but since its other components are so much more advanced and efficient, it is effectively a far more powerful machine in terms of graphical and audio capability, sprite count etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Yeah, what Spree said. Also, is there a single concrete example of the Genesis' faster processing speed actually making a game any better than the SNES could? (And don't say Sonic, when the game got going too fast it turned god-damned unplayable because you couldn't tell what the hell you were doing.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 (And don't say Sonic, when the game got going too fast it turned god-damned unplayable because you couldn't tell what the hell you were doing.) I don't agree with that. Once I started building up speed, I found the controls to be more responsive as to opposed to when you slow down. But that's me. I only played sonic to try and get the fastest time for passing the level. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 (And don't say Sonic, when the game got going too fast it turned god-damned unplayable because you couldn't tell what the hell you were doing.) I don't agree with that. Once I started building up speed, I found the controls to be more responsive as to opposed to when you slow down. But that's me. I only played sonic to try and get the fastest time for passing the level. Well I hate you then ... Ah, not really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Yeah, what Spree said. Also, is there a single concrete example of the Genesis' faster processing speed actually making a game any better than the SNES could? (And don't say Sonic, when the game got going too fast it turned god-damned unplayable because you couldn't tell what the hell you were doing.) If this was 1995, I could rattle off about 10 examples, unfortunately it isn't. I also agree with Prototype. If you found him too fast to control, you just kinda suck at the game. Anymore if I have a choice between buying a game for SNES or Genesis I always go for the SNES version. The SNES version always has slightly better graphics and always has better sound. That's simply not always true, though. Also, I'm surprised no one has added this to the list yet: Earthworm Jim. The Genesis version's graphics were equal except for the lack of a lens flare effect, the sound was pretty good (slightly behind the SNES though), and had a whole extra level that the SNES lacked (Intestinal Distress). However, the winner out of the versions was the later Sega CD/PC Special Edition, which had CD tunes, the Big Bruty level, and a rearranged New Junk City and Heck. It seemed that Shiny could always get the best out of the Genesis, and many of their team actually worked on the Genesis Aladdin. Speaking of Disney games, Lion King was better on SNES, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 How could anyone find sonic hard to control? Pure bliss on a three button pad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 I found it hard to control once he really got going because it was simply TOO FAST. I literally couldn't see what was going on, if I was about to hit an enemy or fall into a pit or anything. The screen turned into one huge blur. Andrew, pretty much everyone agrees that the SNES was simply the superior hardware, why are you so defensive of the Genesis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingPK 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Beavis & Butthead was VASTLY superior on Genesis than on SNES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
