Borderline Hall of Famers

[treble]

Adam Oates, that's someone else I forgot about.

[EVIL~! alkeiper]

For baseball, how about Gary Sheffield?

[the max]

Oates is a classic overachiever.

 

My shoe-ins are Bourque, Sakic, Yzerman, Hull, Messier, Francis, Andreychuk, and Jagr.

 

When he retires, Brodeur will be bigger than Roy, and they are both going, no question.

[The Czech Republic]

I don't know, after Roy, Brodeur, and Hasek, he's the best goalie of the era. Plus, he's got as many Cups as Hasek (1) and more Vezinas than Brodeur (Belfour's 2 to Brodeur's 1). 419 wins and 69 shutouts is nothing to sneeze at, either.

Upon more thinking I'd put Belfour ahead of Brodeur in terms of being the better goalie of th era. I think Brodeur's success is attributed more to the play of his team than his own play.

[Bored]

For baseball, how about Gary Sheffield?

At the moment no, although his stats do compare most favorably to Duke Snider but it did take Snider 10 years on the ballot for him to get in. He's 34 though so he might have another four or five good to great years left in him. He's got a very good shot at 500 homeruns and even an outside shot at 3000 hits. So I'd say barring him hitting the wall the next year or two he'll end up having HOF numbers.

[Vern Gagne]

What does everyone think of assistant coaches, and cordinators making the HOF?

[nl5xsk1]

Good call to those that brought up Oates and Robitaille ... I didn't even think of them. I'll still stick with my top 10 list from before but would definitely put them as a automatic inductees (it's not like I'm saying the tough omissions won't make the Hall, I'm just saying that they're not on my top ten sure thing inductees list).

 

Another person who I'd put as a probable/possible is Nick Lidstrom. He has a few Cups, 3 Norris trophies, and is one of the best D-men of his era.

 

And for Vern's question, I don't think that an assistant coach or coordinator should make it. If they're good enough to be inducted, they're good enough to get a job as the head coach and earn their way to the Hall on their own.

[lomasmoney]

If Lidstrom wins another Norris in a row, He would have four consectutive, which would put him, Doug Harvey, and Bobby Orr as the only players to win more than three in a row, if I am not mistaken

[Slingshot Suplex]

By the way,since it was wondered by me and someone else.....

 

Dino Ciccarelli does not seem to be in the Hall of Fame yet. But he just retired in 99......isn't it three years retired before eligible? He should have been eligible last year anyway then.

 

He's on of my first that aren't in that should be. I'm still a bit surprised Bernie Federko is in.