Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Actually, when Drudge posted the story, the link took you to the moveon.org page WITH the ads on it. They have since taken them down after the controversy. -=Mike I went to Drudge and downloaded it yesterday, and it came from rnc.org. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 So who is Hitler? Anyone ever think that maybe he's Howard Dean? I don't know what year Howard Dean was born - as I don't feel like looking it up - but it could be the same year as Hitler! Notice how both "Howard" and "Hitler" start with an 'h'. This could be a subtle hint... from Hitler! Well, I knew the Dems' Arnold/Hitler shitflinging was going to come back and bite them in the ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 My mistake. I must have mistaken. I didn't know it was the GOP who said that a vote for a Republican is a vote for lynching and church burnings. I didn't hear Republicans stating that liberal opinion led to a major terrorist attack, but I could've easily missed it, I suppose. Thank God the Dems avoid the meanness, huh? Does this count? "Did Clinton gut the military because there was no evidence that countries like Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and an increasingly aggressive communist China would represent serious future threats to America and our friends and allies? No, rather it was because he loathed the military." --Sean Hannity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 My mistake. I must have mistaken. I didn't know it was the GOP who said that a vote for a Republican is a vote for lynching and church burnings. I didn't hear Republicans stating that liberal opinion led to a major terrorist attack, but I could've easily missed it, I suppose. Thank God the Dems avoid the meanness, huh? Does this count? "Did Clinton gut the military because there was no evidence that countries like Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and an increasingly aggressive communist China would represent serious future threats to America and our friends and allies? No, rather it was because he loathed the military." --Sean Hannity To be fair he's a part of the media and not a representative of the party... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 To be fair he's a part of the media and not a representative of the party... I didn't hear Republicans stating that liberal opinion Now, is Sean Hannity a Republican or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 To be fair he's a part of the media and not a representative of the party... I didn't hear Republicans stating that liberal opinion Now, is Sean Hannity a Republican or not? I guess we interpreted that differently. Under the broader context, you would be right, but I saw it as meaning Republican politicians making negative remarks (which many, many Democrats have...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Well, I guess I could also mention a recent ad from some conservative group (the RNC denied having anything to do with it, maybe it was a think tank or something) that compared Tom Daschle to Saddam Hussein. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Is there any proof that Clinton DIDN'T loathe the military? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Jack Black would be a better president, then the two nutjobs running for president right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Is there any proof that Clinton DIDN'T loathe the military? The amount of money that was invested in new weapons and technology? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BX 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Someone's gonna pull out the "I loathe the military" quote that someone mistakenly atttributed to Clinton. 1000 posts. Damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 that compared Tom Daschle to Saddam Hussein. No Daschle's more like Bin Laden... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I guess we interpreted that differently. Under the broader context, you would be right, but I saw it as meaning Republican politicians making negative remarks (which many, many Democrats have...) I'm not going to pretend that Democrats don't mudsling, but it's pretty rediculus to pretend that no Repubican politicians have made negative remarks about the other party. It happens all the time, and it goes both ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 7, 2004 My mistake. I must have mistaken. I didn't know it was the GOP who said that a vote for a Republican is a vote for lynching and church burnings. I didn't hear Republicans stating that liberal opinion led to a major terrorist attack, but I could've easily missed it, I suppose. Thank God the Dems avoid the meanness, huh? Does this count? "Did Clinton gut the military because there was no evidence that countries like Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and an increasingly aggressive communist China would represent serious future threats to America and our friends and allies? No, rather it was because he loathed the military." --Sean Hannity BIG difference between that and saying that a vote for Bush is a vote for lynching, linking Bush to the people who dragged James Byrd, or comparing Bush to Hitler. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 You wanted a quote from a Republican that said that liberal thinking led to a major terrorist attack. 9/11 isn't specifically mentioned, but here's Hannity saying Clinton was leaving us open for attacks from the likes of Saddam Hussein, and now you're saying there's a big difference between this and that and the other. Go figure. All I know is, if you consider these Hitler ads to be sponsored by the Democrats (they aren't), then all it means is that both play this game. The charge of a lack of patriotism helped to defeat Senator Max Cleland of Georgia, who had lost two legs and an arm in the Vietnam War. Of course it was outrageous to brand Cleland "unpatriotic", but Bush and Rove are not easily embarrassed. Bush, for all his supposedly easygoing manner, is apparently no less ruthless than his mentor. A television ad showed Cleland along with pictures of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. The Republican senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, himself a Vietnam veteran, was so incensed by the ad that he threatened to run his own ad endorsing Cleland unless it was cancelled. After Hagel's vehement protests, it was, but the damage had been done. Essentially the same ad was run against the South Dakota Democratic senator Tim Johnson, whose son had served in the military in Afghanistan and is now serving in Iraq. Johnson won, but just barely. South Dakota has been a battleground for Bush and Rove since Tom Daschle, a native of the state, became majority leader of the Senate in 2001, and the mid-term election in South Dakota became a proxy fight between Bush and Daschle. In November 2001, an ad was run showing Daschle, who was not up for re-election, next to a picture of Saddam Hussein. http://afr.com/review/2003/04/24/FFXSKHT7UED.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Hey, you want a gem from one of the finalists of the moveon.org competition? http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html This is not the ad that got to the finals, but an ad the finalist has made elsewhere. Just to show you where Bush's opponents come from. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 This is not the ad that got to the finals, but an ad the finalist has made elsewhere. Just to show you where Bush's opponents come from. -=Mike The site isn't responding. OH well. Despite public gloating over what a pushover Howard Dean will be, Republicans are airing a new attack ad in Iowa calling him a "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving left-wing freak." Dean is the only Democratic candidate the conservative Club for Growth has broadcast ads about. Dean supporters say it proves the GOP is secretly scared of their man. (...) In the new Club for Growth ad, a farmer says, "Howard Dean should take his tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading . . .," as his wife finishes, ". . . Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show back to Vermont, where it belongs!" The ad could actually boost Dean. A previous Club for Growth ad, which painted Dean as a tax-hiking sure loser, brought $280,000 into his campaign in a few days from outraged supporters. Club for Growth President Stephen Moore said he considers Dean the guaranteed winner of the Democratic nomination and denied any Machiavellian intent to help him. "We wanted to take a shot at him early to undermine his credibility with the center-right voters he'll need in November," he said. As to the shocking latte-drinking charge, it should be noted that Vermont has just two Starbucks stores. Iowa has eight. Texas, the home state of President Bush, has 395. http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily...ews/7648073.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2004 This is not the ad that got to the finals, but an ad the finalist has made elsewhere. Just to show you where Bush's opponents come from. -=Mike The site isn't responding. OH well. Despite public gloating over what a pushover Howard Dean will be, Republicans are airing a new attack ad in Iowa calling him a "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving left-wing freak." Dean is the only Democratic candidate the conservative Club for Growth has broadcast ads about. Dean supporters say it proves the GOP is secretly scared of their man. (...) In the new Club for Growth ad, a farmer says, "Howard Dean should take his tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading . . .," as his wife finishes, ". . . Hollywood-loving, left-wing freak show back to Vermont, where it belongs!" The ad could actually boost Dean. A previous Club for Growth ad, which painted Dean as a tax-hiking sure loser, brought $280,000 into his campaign in a few days from outraged supporters. Club for Growth President Stephen Moore said he considers Dean the guaranteed winner of the Democratic nomination and denied any Machiavellian intent to help him. "We wanted to take a shot at him early to undermine his credibility with the center-right voters he'll need in November," he said. As to the shocking latte-drinking charge, it should be noted that Vermont has just two Starbucks stores. Iowa has eight. Texas, the home state of President Bush, has 395. http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily...ews/7648073.htm Sushi-eating? Talk about pussies. NOT Howard Dean, but the stupid farm hick couple complaining about him. OMG SUSHI HEEZ NO AMRICN~!! Seriously, I highly doubt that G.W. Bush would approve of this. In fact, I bet he's eating some sushi right now..... How are the country's ties with Japan anyway? Pretty stupid target, unless there's some Howard Dean-Sushi joke that I'm not aware of. Now if they said Kahv-kalash, THEN there might be reason to worry..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites