haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Off air results from RAW... Credit: 1wrestling.com/411mania Hey all, I attended the January 5th RAW at the Pyramid. Random comment but standing outside in the cold waiting to get in the Pyramid was no treat. The show was ok. The crowd was pretty active for the most part. I would say about 8,000 was at the show. Rock band Saliva was there on the front row on the non-TV side. Dark Match: Rico w/ Miss Jackie defeated John Heidenreich with the roundhouse kick. Sunday Night Heat: Randy Orton defeated Val Venis in a non-title match w/ the RKO. Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. He is going to definitely step up in 2004. Al Snow and The Coach came out to a decent pop. Garrison Cade and Mark Jindrak defeated Matt and Jon from Tough 3. The Tough Enough boys looked like a young version of the Hardy Boyz. They didn't botch any spots to my amazement. Sunday Night pyro... Matt Hardy Version 1 defeated Lance Storm w/ 2 ladies with the Twist of Fate. Matt Hardy was better off on Smackdown. After RAW went off the air.. Batista tried to cut a promo but after he said, "We are the tag champions" the microphone went out which left the crowd confused. Triple H was then left alone in the ring selling the Sweet Chin Music. Oddly HHH was then signaling a ring person to throw out some beer, ala Stone Cold. But uh oh, Stone Cold came out in his 4 wheeler. For about 20 minutes Stone Cold and Triple H talk about various subjects such as old Memphis wrestling tapes, Jerry Lawler, beer tossing, football, and their past. Stone Cold and HHH were then teasing the crowd, saying that they were going to make up and let bygones be bygones. But that wasn't to be as Stone Cold remembered the promo Triple H earlier on the show. After they toasted Stone Cold gave HHH 2 stunners. Biggest Face Pops 1. Stone Cold 2. Shawn Michaels 3. Jerry Lawler 4. Randy Orton (Heat) Biggest Heels Pops 1. HHH 2. Kane 3. Ric Flair/Batista 4. La Resistance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 The Heat matches sound like RAW matches and the RAW matches sound like HEAT matches. We sure the production team didn't screw up with who was suppose to wrestle on which program? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. Biggest Face Pops 4. Randy Orton (Heat) This is the 3rd time he's got cheered since he's been on Raw. I hope he gets a response from all crowds from now on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Wasn't the Orton name big in Memphis? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Why not make the match w/ Venis a title match? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. Biggest Face Pops 4. Randy Orton (Heat) This is the 3rd time he's got cheered since he's been on Raw. I hope he gets a response from all crowds from now on. Well, the crowd probably heard the music and thought Triple H and/or Flair was coming out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Why not make the match w/ Venis a title match? Because people are hip to the idea that Val is not going to win the IC Title and that a non-title match seemingly telegraphs a win by the challenger. So fans end up buying more of Val's near falls and get into the match more easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. Biggest Face Pops 4. Randy Orton (Heat) This is the 3rd time he's got cheered since he's been on Raw. I hope he gets a response from all crowds from now on. Well, the crowd probably heard the music and thought Triple H and/or Flair was coming out. No,the crowd heard knew it was Orton. Stop the excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest StevieNightHeat Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Why is Rico wrestling in Dark Matches now? and the Jindrak/Cade vs Matt/John match should be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Well, I don't think people would buy Val having a chance either way. Making it a title match might give Heat a little "juice" and get some more viewers. Orton is supposed to be a cocky bastard? Do this: have Orton interrupt Lillian in mid-announcement, and say "I'm Randy Orton, legend killer. *Mick Foley* is too scared to face me in the ring, but I'm supposed to be concerned Val Venis is going to beat me for *my* Intercontinental Title? I don't think so. This match is now a title match." Do that every week. Give Val some near-falls, have Orton do some cheating & ultimately pull out the win. You've: 1) made Val/whoever look good (several near-falls, almost took the title, Orton needed to cheat to beat him) 2) put heat on the Orton/Foley feud (Orton keeps harping on the "Foley is a coward" angle) 3) bring some prestige back to the title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LivingLegendGaryColeman 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Well, I don't think people would buy Val having a chance either way. Making it a title match might give Heat a little "juice" and get some more viewers. Orton is supposed to be a cocky bastard? Do this: have Orton interrupt Lillian in mid-announcement, and say "I'm Randy Orton, legend killer. *Mick Foley* is too scared to face me in the ring, but I'm supposed to be concerned Val Venis is going to beat me for *my* Intercontinental Title? I don't think so. This match is now a title match." Do that every week. Give Val some near-falls, have Orton do some cheating & ultimately pull out the win. You've: 1) made Val/whoever look good (several near-falls, almost took the title, Orton needed to cheat to beat him) 2) put heat on the Orton/Foley feud (Orton keeps harping on the "Foley is a coward" angle) 3) bring some prestige back to the title That's a good idea, but too good... You and your crazy ideas of doing things correctly.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Randy Orton defeated Val Venis in a non-title match w/ the RKO. Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. He is going to definitely step up in 2004. What are you talking about? I never hear any crowd reaction for Orton. *pulls out earplugs* -Patrick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UseTheSledgehammerUh 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I fail to see how Jindrak and Cade, who are horrible, will have a "good" match with the Tough Enough kids. Unless you were using sarcasm.... You had to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbacon 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Lance jobbing on Heat makes me sad. Their dropping the ball on the potential Storm/Venis face tag team. Given a decent push they could challange Flair/Batista in a plausable WMXX match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. Biggest Face Pops 4. Randy Orton (Heat) This is the 3rd time he's got cheered since he's been on Raw. THREE REACTIONS IN EIGHT MONTHS? Wow, what great heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 And all it took this time was being the first halfway big name to come out (sorry Rico). That spot usually never gets a larger than usual response. [/sarcasm] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. Biggest Face Pops 4. Randy Orton (Heat) This is the 3rd time he's got cheered since he's been on Raw. THREE REACTIONS IN EIGHT MONTHS? Wow, what great heat. People figting in the crowd during a Kane promo get better reactions than randy orton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Besus Report post Posted January 7, 2004 More then three, im talking about face reactions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 7, 2004 More then three, im talking about face reactions. Right, he also got booed twice. And you can't SERIOUSLY count the match against FGB (They would have cheered me) and standing next to Flair in a tag match as serious face heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 More then three, im talking about face reactions. Right, he also got booed twice. And you can't SERIOUSLY count the match against FGB (They would have cheered me) and standing next to Flair in a tag match as serious face heat. You mean that time in Vancouver? Yeah, I'm not particularly a Orton-hater, but that had absolutely nothing to do with Orton. We hate Goldberg, period. But anyone in the ring with him, and we'll cheer for that guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 "Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me." Shit...I'd have had a heart attack, myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Dark Match: Rico w/ Miss Jackie defeated John Heidenreich with the roundhouse kick. FUCK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tawren 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Dark Match: Rico w/ Miss Jackie defeated John Heidenreich with the roundhouse kick. FUCK! Rico won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Dark Match: Rico w/ Miss Jackie defeated John Heidenreich with the roundhouse kick. FUCK! Rico won. Ricos made because it won't be on T.V to add a win to his record. Rico the Hoss Killer. Smell the Ratings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 They seem to be wanting to kill Rico by constantly putting him against this Heidenreich fellow until the law of averages leaves Rico a twitching mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Randy Orton defeated Val Venis in a non-title match w/ the RKO. Randy Orton's loud crowd reaction surprised me. He is going to definitely step up in 2004. Memphis is a backwards town so this doesn't surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 FUCK! Rico won. Ricos mad because it won't be on T.V to add a win to his record. Rico the Hoss Killer. Smell the Ratings! They seem to be wanting to kill Rico by constantly putting him against this Heidenreich fellow until the law of averages leaves Rico a twitching mess. Basically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Back to Back Heat matches for V1 Things are looking up! He's still on TV. Why am I not shocked the WWE completely fumbled his character and turn on Lita. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bottled Black Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Because it's what they do best lately. Take a majorly over charachter and absolutely bury them. Examples include Eddie, Benoit, Jericho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest PowerPB13 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 This Heat actually looks decent...which means they'll edit the good matches down to nothing so we can see more clips of Austin from Raw. -Patrick Why ringside seats aren't always a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
