The OAO Rumble Entry prediction thread

[Guest Choken One]

Here is the List courtesy of WWEROYALRUMBLE.COM

 

Raw:

Kane, Booker, Orton, RVD, Steiner, Goldberg, Test, Hurricane, Jericho, Christian, Mark Henry, Matt Hardy, Rene Dupree, Rico and Spike Dudley

Smackdown:

Cena, Angle, TBS, Haas, Rikishi, Gunn, Morgan, Nunzio and TBD (5)

 

 

I’m assuming the remaining five are

 

Bradshaw

Tajiri

Rhyno

A-Train

Shannon Moore

 

With an outside long shot of Undertaker returning from the dead…

 

Goldberg is already confirmed at #30 as Benoit is #1.

 

Either way, I believe Goldberg leaves looking weak because either he, Wins but at #30 which taints it or he loses despite having the “best” slot. Randy Orton should have been #30 as it fits with his ego and gives us the promise of limited Orton anyways. Goldberg should be #27 as he can save face there and they can tease us as the smarks know damn well of the #27 success in the rumble past.

 

Since Benoit is #1 and is said to be lasting a long time win or lose, He needs a running mate from Raw, and I can’t think of anyone better then Chris Jericho, So I’d look for Jericho to draw from #3-10. One of the more interesting booking patterns will be Kane, His entry effects the balance of the rumble itself, If he isn’t winning but still needs to look dominant esp. after looking humiliated this Monday, he needs to make an impression, So I could see him coming in and playing Diesel from #10-13 but how to keep Benoit from Kane’s path of destruction will be crucial and hopefully they don’t go the Backland/Gonzalez route. The Rumble really only has 7 Big Names (Kane, ‘Berg, Jericho, Angle, Benoit, Show and Cena), which means they will have to spread them around but prevent the rumble from getting that feeling of malaise it can get when it lacks star power (best example is 1993, Post Undertaker Pre Yoko lull), Likely the over mid-carders Booker, RVD, Hardy, X etc will be used in the middle portion as I expect The early portion to be focused on Benoit. Goldberg’s entry of #30 is really mind-boggling as it will completely hurt his character win or lose. Orton should have won #30 as It fits his character and Goldberg could have been #27.

 

Here is how I would have the Entry order

 

 

 

 

1. Chris Benoit

2. Shelton Benjamin

3. Rico

4. Rhyno

5. Hurricane

6. Nunzio

7. Matt Morgan

8. Chris Jericho

9. Test

10. Rikishi

11. Charlie Haas

12. Spike Dudley

13. Kane

14. Booker T

15. Matt Hardy

16. Billy Gunn

17. Tajiri

18. John Cena

19. Scott Steiner

20. Rob Van Dam

21. A-Train

22. Bradshaw

23. Randy Orton

24. Rene Dupree

25. Kurt Angle

26. Christian

27. Mark Henry

28. Shannon Moore

29. The Big Show

30. Goldberg

 

I’d Start Benoit with A great wrestler(Shelton) and give him one of his fiercest rivals(Rhyno) and another of Heyman’s henchmen(Morgan) along with Nunzio(whom benoit recently had a beef with) and then he can be “saved” by his former best friend and long time rival, Jericho and that would start their working relationship for the night.

 

Thrown in some bodies for Kane to throw around when he comes (Spike, Test, and Hurricane). I’m not sure how they plan to book Kane, either they can go the 1999 seek and destroy Kane or the Iron Man intelligent big man ala 2001. #13 is good spot for either route. I threw in some Mid-carders that could revive the crowd as Benoit and Jericho would likely tire down. I expect Cena to enter and clear a little space (Tajiri, Gunn, Haas etc) and the ring will likely fill up some more with the other space fillers until Angle makes a huge entrance where he could dump Train, Steiner, and Bradshaw and don’t think it isn’t a coincidence I placed the Anti-American Dupree right before Mr. “For the Troops”, since they will likely play that up. You might wonder why X enters so late considering I had the other raw mid-carders in the middle, well I’m expecting Jericho/X to continue their dissension with a drawing segment where Jericho gets his shitty number (8) and X celebrates his rather good draw of #26. TBS is #29 for a reason, I’ll explain shortly.

 

Once Goldberg’s time comes the ring will be filled with

Benoit, Jericho, Kane, Matt Hardy, Cena, RVD, Orton, Angle and Henry. Goldberg will make his long entrance and catch the blind attack from Evolution. Cena will leave the ring and join the fight…Goldberg will be left bloody and battered and Orton will be left with the supposedly easy task of shipping ‘berg over the ropes but Goldberg snaps out and throws Orton over but he survives by landing on the apron but Goldberg goes all “WCW Revenge” on Him and that’s all for Orton. Instantly, They all attack Goldberg except the tired and weary Benoit…Kane and Goldberg have a face-off and neither of them win because the others group to work on Kane, all except for Goldberg this time and Goldberg recovers from Henry’s Low-blow and shoves Henry, Hardy, RVD over the ropes to a mixed reaction…Goldberg yelps and goes for the Spear on a dazed Kane but the ropes are still pulled down by kane and he is able to tie himself up, which causes Goldberg to get back dropped over, Kane laughs at this but Jericho ends the laughing with a Stiff dropkick to send him over, as ‘Berg and Kane brawl to the back. This leaves…Benoit, Jericho, Cena, Angle and TBS.

 

If you are wondering why they went after Kane and not the TBS, its simple…He has yet to even enter the ring. During the drawing ceremony, Heyman eluded to a loophole in the Official WWE Rumble rulebook that states that any reigning champion doesn’t have to enter the rumble until he sees fit. So he takes a little stroll around the ring, often teasing his entry. They do the four corners bit…Angle charges at Jericho but Benoit stuns everyone with a suicide dive between the ropes to TBS to a HUGE POP. Cena steps out and helps Benoit roll the big man in…TBS staggers around as Cena and Benoit connect for a double clothesline and that gets TBS wobbling on the ropes and they go again and they send him over but Cena loses his balance and angle flips him over.

 

Final Three

Chris Benoit, Jericho and Kurt Angle.

 

Benoit now has lasted a whole Hour and Jericho’s time isn’t all that shabby at just about 50 minutes. Jericho and Benoit continue to work together here but a miscommunication sends Jericho out of the match. Leaving it down to the very men who tore the house down just a year before at this very event. They slow the pace down and go to a Shoot Style approach with Angle getting a takedown but Benoit muscles his way out…After about Two minutes of back n forth fighting…Benoit SLAPS the crossface on to a HUGE pop…Angle fights his way up and saunters to ropes falling backwards over but Benoit is quick enough to capture the rope as they fell over and hangs on as Angle crashes to the floor. Benoit wins.

[Guest hebtheeagle]

Damn, that was detailed! I'm wanting to agree that Benoit will win, however I think he'll have to eliminate Goldberg to win it, and knowing Vince, I don't think he'll let Benoit go over GB when 'Berg has been put in a place to win.

 

Official Prediction: Benoit and GB final two...Goldberg wins

[Aero 0]

I've got nothing better to do right now, so I don't mind tinkering with the order. For the remaining SD guys, I'll just use the ones you named.

 

1. Chris Benoit

2. Charlie Haas

3. Test

4. Randy Orton

5. Chris Jericho

6. Rico

7. Spike Dudley

8. Mark Henry

9. Shelton Benjamin

10. Booker T

11. Billy Gunn

12. A-Train

13. Bradshaw

14. Kane

15. Matt Hardy

16. Rene Dupree

17. Rhyno

18. Kurt Angle

19. Christian

20. Tajiri

21. Rikishi

22. Rob Van Dam

23. Shannon Moore

24. John Cena

25. Big Show

26. Scott Steiner

27. Nunzio

28. The Hurricane

29. Matt Morgan

30. Goldberg

 

Firstly, Randy Orton here = The Rock in the 1998 Rumble, except he isn't the last one out. Benoit fends off three heels in the beginning, and Jericho makes the save. They help each other out throughout the match. TWGTT eliminate Mark Henry. Kane goes for another good distance this year, and he gets to fight Booker T for a while. Kane gets to eliminate dead weight like Billy Gunn, Spike, Rico, and A-Train. Matt Hardy comes in right after Kane, who has everyone in the ring down. Matt hangs around outside until everything cools down. Cheap heat there. Rene Dupree enters at # 16, and Angle eliminates him for the USA pop, because he did dedicate his win to the troops. Christian tries to eliminate Jericho late in the match, but Jericho eliminates him instead, further adding to a split. Matt Morgan enters at # 29 and gets to play the big heel hoss that has a late draw, like Warlord, Adam Bomb, & Crush. Goldberg enters last, of course, and gets to destroy Morgan, Nunzio, Tajiri, Rhyno, and whoever else. Kane eliminates Goldberg cleanly.

 

Final Four are Benoit, Angle, Orton, and Jericho. Jericho eliminates Orton, but Orton is pissed and distracts Jericho, allowing Angle to come from behind and toss him. Angle and Benoit go at it for a few minutes complete with trading German suplexes. I can't think of any real creative finish, so have Angle apply the Ankle Lock, only to have Benoit roll through, pushing Angle out, along with Benoit hitting him off.

 

EDIT: Alot of similarties between mine and yours, Choken. Weird, because I didn't even read past the numbers in yours.

Edited January 20, 2004 by Aero

[Guest hebtheeagle]

I like the scenario with Kane eliminating GB, but I think GB has to win, or else they risk losing the credibility that he has earned with the fans since Unforgiven.

[The Amazing Rando 0]

what do you mean "Credibility" ... the entire match is centered around strategy and such...and Kane eliminating GB doesn't even have to be a big beatdown scenario...as GB could just toss somebody...and before he turns around Kane just sneaks in and flips GB over too... that way Kane looks like more of a prick for taking GB's shot away from him... ...and GB doesn't lose anything because he didn't get BEAT persay...he was just unlucky

[spiny norman 0]

What about that time Austin was eliminated in 2002. It didn't lose him any credibility.

 

Anyway, I'll put up my order once we get the Smackdown spoiler on who their entrants will be.

[Guest Fook]

I'd have Xian eliminate Jericho using the Owen/Bulldog situation from the 97 rumble:

 

-Xian's on the brink of elimination (let's say by Cena).

-Jericho attacks Cena and saves Xian.

-Jericho goes to eliminate Cena, only to have Xian come from behind and eliminate Jericho

[Murmuring Beast 0]

HOGAN

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

HOGAN

no

[CanadianChick 0]

I'm betting on Spike not being in the Rumble, and Taker replacing him.

Works on three levels: 1) It's always good to have a mystery entrant. It adds suspence, even if it may be obvious who the entrant is.

2) Adds another threat to the Rumble. Even if he's never won one, most fans can easily believe Taker can win.

3) Since Kane is the one who injured Spike, it's his ultamatly his fault that Taker is in the Rumble.

 

I would have Taker be the one eliminate Kane, and the feud begins. Of course, Taker would have to be on Raw, but there could be an excuse to let that happen.

 

Also, I wouldn't have Moore come in so late. Have him come in when there's a monster (say Matt Morgan) the only one in the ring, and he DOESN'T get eliminated right away. Classic underdog.

[The Mandarin 0]

All I can assume is Jericho eliminates Christian early on and shrugging it off (ala Kane eliminating tag team partner Van Dam at last year's RR), to have Christian come back later with Trish in a stranglehold, so Jericho has to make the tough choice of picking the girl or the chance to win the Royal Rumble. Obviously, he dives over the top and on to Christian, setting up their program.

[2GOLD 0]

I think #2 will be Kurt Angle or John Cena.

[pochorenella 0]

Choken, that's some awesome Fantasy Booking. I just hope you're right in picking the winner. Goldberg winning with #30 makes him look very weak IMO, cause he's having it way too easy.

[ISportsFan 0]

Choken, that's some awesome Fantasy Booking. I just hope you're right in picking the winner. Goldberg winning with #30 makes him look very weak IMO, cause he's having it way too easy.

Nobody in the history of the Rumble has won with the #30 slot, so hopefully we're safe.

 

Hopefully.

 

Jason

[deancoles 0]

Here's my prediction.

 

1.Chris Benoit

2.Rhyno

3.Nunzio

4.Shannon Moore

5.Christian

6.Rob Van Dam

7.Bradshaw

8.Tajiri

9.Rikishi

10.Spike Dudley

11.Randy orton

12.John Cena

13.Rene Dupree

14.Booker T

15.Matt Hardy

16.Shelton Benjamin

17.Chris Jericho

18.Charlie Haas

19.Kane

20.Test

21.Billy Gunn

22.Matt Morgan

23.The Hurricane

24.Scott Steiner

25.Kurt Angle

26.Big Show

27.Rico

28.A-Train

29.Scott Steiner

30.Goldberg

[The Mandarin 0]

Nobody in the history of the Rumble has won with the #30 slot

Thank God for that.

 

WrestleMania XV could have been The Rock vs. Chyna.

WrestleMania 2000 could have been HHH vs. X-Pac.

WrestleMania X7 could have been Rikishi vs. The Rock (or originally, Kurt Angle)

WrestleMania X8 could have been Chris Jericho vs. Booker T

And last year's WrestleMania could have been Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker.

 

..eeew.

Edited January 21, 2004 by CM Funk

[2GOLD 0]

As long as I don't see

 

"AND YOUR WINNER....RANDY ORTON!"

 

Then it's all good.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Jericho isn't retarded enough to DIVE OVER the top rope. He's not Kane (1999) where he's immotionally retarded and doesn't know what the hell he was doing. Only other times I think someone did that was 1992 & 1997. in 92 they let Savage stay, but in 97 they let Ahmed go.

 

Or Jericho eliminating himself is just too corny.

 

 

No way I can predict a Rumble from start to finish, so i'll let some other people do it.

[MillenniumMan831 0]

I think Kurt Angle will get #2 to give a mini-rematch of last year's WWE Title match. There'll be plenty of time for Heyman's henchmen to come in since I think Benoit will at least make it to the last batch of guys.

[Guest Choken One]

Kurt's Neck can't withstand 60 minutes...

 

He's getting a late number #18-27.

[Fökai 0]

For interest's sake, the workers from last year that are not included in this year's Rumble:

 

RAW:

Shawn Michaels, Christopher Nowinski, Tommy Dreamer, Jeff Hardy, Jamal, Maven, Goldust and Batista.

 

SMACKDOWN:

Rey Mysterio, Edge, Chavo Guerrero, Bill DeMott, B2, Eddie Guerrero, Brock Lesnar and Undertaker.

 

Projected to debut/return this year:

 

RAW:

Randy Orton, Mark Henry, Spike Dudley, Rene Dupree, The Hurricane, Rico, Scott Steiner and Goldberg.

 

SMACKDOWN:

Rhyno, Nunzio, Shannon Moore, Bradshaw, Billy Gunn, Matt Morgan, Kurt Angle and Big Show.

 

 

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I really hope that the match can stack up to last year's Rumble in terms of quality.

[Guest Choken One]

Uh what quality?

 

Aside from the first 15 minutes of awesomeness, it was pretty apathetic...I still question WHY Brock didn't enter at #18 or something...make it look more impressive.

[ChrisMWaters 0]

Uh what quality?

 

Aside from the first 15 minutes of awesomeness, it was pretty apathetic...I still question WHY Brock didn't enter at #18 or something...make it look more impressive.

They had the thought that would be impressive that he had to get by the man who beat him for the title first, THEN compete in the Rumble Match.

 

EDIT: Plus, my secret theory about how Michaels and Lesnar are the same person, just after different phases of body development. Think about it...have we EVER seen HBK and Lesnar in the same place at the same time?

[Guest Choken One]

Yeah by drawing #29 and lasting about 3 minutes in the ring and generally knocking some big stiffs over...

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Bradshaw

Tajiri

Rhyno

A-Train

Shannon Moore

 

A-Train defeated Shannon Moore to get into the Rumble. The final spot is an unknown wrestler.

[Guest Choken One]

Yep and the good lord willing it's Jim Duggan.

[Aero 0]

EDIT: Plus, my secret theory about how Michaels and Lesnar are the same person, just after different phases of body development. Think about it...have we EVER seen HBK and Lesnar in the same place at the same time?

On the Raw before Summerslam 2002, during the Rock-HHH main event, Brock gets on the apron in street clothes while HBK & HHH are fighting inside. HHH ducks a punch, and HBK nails Brock off the apron. The clip is in the HBK-HHH video package at Summerslam.

[Guest Choken One]

That was Matt Morgan in Lesnar Diguse...Yep.

[Guest rawmvp]

Ernest Miller is in the Rumble but Rhyno ISN'T?

 

Vince must really hate Rhyno.

[Guest Choken One]

Yeah that's just fucked up...

 

and where has Matt Morgan been anyways? I mean Rhyno just main evented Smackdown two weeks ago...and yet isn't on the card...