Guest rawmvp Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Last night at the Royal Rumble, something became very clear to me: the repetitive nature of WWE. Wrestlers, especially Angle and Benoit, always do German suplexes. Why don't they do more Northern Lights or Tiger Bombs or overhead belly to belly suplexes? Speaking of neck problems in recent years, don't you think the preponderance of german suplexes is a main reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Whoa Whoa Whoa - yer askin for variety? Then yer asking for insanity. That's just insane. More than 3 types of suplexes in the WWE? That's... that's... that's unheard of! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 I'd think that they use it so much because it's comparatively safer. My friends and I actually had a betting pool on how many germans Benoit would use last night. The number was nine, and we all went over. I bet 21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 if Big Poppa has something good about him, is that he at least does Overhead Belly To Bellys T-Bone's the twisting belly to belly thing he always does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When was the last time benoit used a Dragon Suplex? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Is it true that overhead belly to bellys were outlawed by WWE? What's so dangerous about them? And nobody has ever gotten hurt from the piledriver (Jerry Lawler/Bret Hart's version) either. I just don't get it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Paul Orndorff got hurt by a piledriver. No, it's not true. Since then, many overhead suplexes were done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermortal 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When was the last time benoit used a Dragon Suplex? Didn't he do it to HHH @ No Mercy 2000? Man that match was weird. They busted out so much new shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When was the last time benoit used a Dragon Suplex? i only remember three times he has done it in the WWE/F, at WM 2000 to Angle, at No Mercy 2000 to HHH(twice) and in a RAW in 2001 to Regal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When was the last time benoit used a Dragon Suplex? Didn't he do it to HHH @ No Mercy 2000? Man that match was weird. They busted out so much new shit. He may have used it in a match with Eddie who's the only guy willing to take a few extra moves(Wildbomb for example) from Benoit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 oh yeah he also did it to Jericho in the Four Way match at No Way Out 2001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kardo 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Also to Jericho at No Way Out 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Regal is the only guy i've seen do a version of a Half-Nelson suplex. Edit:Test does a Half-Nelson suplex? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eiker_ir 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 the half-nelson suplex by Regal is pretty sweet, specially when RVD is taking it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test doesn't bridge, its a Half Nelson sideslam more than a suplex, but I count it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test doesn't bridge, its a Half Nelson sideslam more than a suplex, but I count it ok,i had scary visions of Test doing All Japan style Half-Nelson suplexes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 the half-nelson suplex by Regal is pretty sweet, specially when RVD is taking it All of the suplexes that Regal used vs Spike were great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masked Man of Mystery 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Isn't a Dragon suplex the same thing as a full nelson suplex? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimbo Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Isn't a Dragon suplex the same thing as a full nelson suplex? Yes. Somebody needs to pump out a Tiger Suplex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Isn't a Dragon suplex the same thing as a full nelson suplex? Yes. Somebody needs to pump out a Tiger Suplex. Ultimo Dragon unified the J Crown and wcw cruiserweight belts with that move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest rawmvp Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Benoit also used the full nelson/dragonplex against Jericho in their famed 2/3 falls match at SummerSlam 2000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jimbo Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Isn't a Dragon suplex the same thing as a full nelson suplex? Yes. Somebody needs to pump out a Tiger Suplex. Ultimo Dragon unified the J Crown and wcw cruiserweight belts with that move. But that was 7 years ago, I want to see one now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Test uses the Half-Nelson Suplex from time to time I haven't seen a Double Underhook, Full Nelson Suplex, Dragon Suplex, or a Fisherman's Suplex in forever. Hell, I haven't seen Eddie use a brainbuster in forever too Eddie and Chavo used watered down brainbusters. Brock does a delayed fisherman's suplex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted January 27, 2004 When was the last time benoit used a Dragon Suplex? Benoit once said many people were apprehensive about the dragon suplex in WCW if I remember right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FrigidSoul Report post Posted January 27, 2004 There's a very small difference between the Dragon and Full Nelson. Full Nelson they hold the bridge while still having it in Full Nelson mode, with the Dragon's I've seen after they suplex they let go enough to bridge using their knuckles on the mat. Its basically the same thing but I'm a knit-picker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KidKrash Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Last night at the Royal Rumble, something became very clear to me: the repetitive nature of WWE. Wrestlers, especially Angle and Benoit, always do German suplexes. Why don't they do more Northern Lights or Tiger Bombs or overhead belly to belly suplexes? Speaking of neck problems in recent years, don't you think the preponderance of german suplexes is a main reason? Well the Germans were unique until that unoriginal "wrestler" Angle started using them, even using the special multiple Germans. Blame Angle and the fact that he can't come up with any of his own moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Instead of using more moves, why don't they give the moves they have more meaning. The German Suplex might as well be snapmare in the modern WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coffin Surfer 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2004 There's a very small difference between the Dragon and Full Nelson. Full Nelson they hold the bridge while still having it in Full Nelson mode, with the Dragon's I've seen after they suplex they let go enough to bridge using their knuckles on the mat. Its basically the same thing but I'm a knit-picker No, there the same move. If they let go than they botched it, and couldn't hold the Full Nelson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 27, 2004 Last night at the Royal Rumble, something became very clear to me: the repetitive nature of WWE. Wrestlers, especially Angle and Benoit, always do German suplexes. Why don't they do more Northern Lights or Tiger Bombs or overhead belly to belly suplexes? Speaking of neck problems in recent years, don't you think the preponderance of german suplexes is a main reason? Well the Germans were unique until that unoriginal "wrestler" Angle started using them, even using the special multiple Germans. Blame Angle and the fact that he can't come up with any of his own moves. Is Benoit unoriginal for taking the crossface from Dean, headbut from Dynamite and Sharpshooter from Stu Hart? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
