Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2004 http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/0,39...m?sessionid=316 UPDATE: MIPI raids Sharman Networks, Brilliant Digital Entertainment By James Pearce, ZDNet Australia 06 February 2004 [TalkBack!] UPDATE:Music Industry Piracy Investigations this morning raided the offices of P2P companies Sharman Networks and Brilliant Digital Entertainment, along with the homes of key executives and several ISPs. MIPI obtained an Anton Pilar order – which allows a copyright holder to enter a premises to search for and seize material that breaches copyright without alerting the target through court proceedings – yesterday from Justice Murray Wilcox, and began raiding premises in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria this morning searching for documents and electronic evidence to support its case against the peer-to-peer companies. In addition to the offices of Sharman Networks and Brilliant Digital Entertainment (BDE), MIPI raided the residences of Sharman Networks’ CEO Nikki Hemming, Brilliant Digital Entertainment Chief Executive Officer and President Kevin Burmeister and Phil Morle, Director of Technology at Sharman Networks. Monash University, the University of Queensland and the University of New South Wales were also raided, as well as four ISPs including Telstra. "Telstra lawyers are presently working with lawyers from the record labels in order to determine exactly what information is being sought under the terms of the order," Telstra spokesman Warwick Ponder told ZDNet Australia . "We have not been asked for and will not provide any BigPond subscriber information." "Telstra has made it very clear for a long time now that it does not support copyright infringement or any other illegal activity," said Ponder. "At the same time Telstra clearly respects its obligation to protect customers information and privacy under the Telecommunication Act and Privacy Act under Federal law." MIPI general manager Michael Speck told ZDNet Australia the order was specifically targeted at the operators of the Kazaa network. "This is not about individuals, this is about the big fish," said Speck. "This is a signal that Internet music piracy is finished in Australia." The ISPs and Universities were raided to gain evidence about the operators of the Kazaa network. The investigation into the Kazaa network has been ongoing for six months, and was precipitated by a significant change in the physical and technical structure of Sharman Networks, according to Speck. "The Kazaa operation infringes copyright within the terms of the Australian Copyright Act," he said. "This action appears to be an extraordinary waste of time, money and resources going over legal ground that has been well and truly covered in the US and Dutch Courts over the past 18 months," said Sharman Networks in a statement. "This is a knee-jerk reaction by the recording industry to discredit Sharman Networks and the Kazaa software, following a number of recent court decisions around the world that have ruled against the entertainment industry’s agenda to stamp out peer-to-peer technology." Sharman Networks became a target for the music industry when it purchased the Kazaa peer-to-peer file-sharing technology from its Dutch creators Kazaa BV in 2002. It has had a long relationship with BDE, and in 2002 had to defend against a backlash when it was revealed spyware had been included with the Kazaa software. BDE subsidiary Altnet was later formed and offered to pay people for hosting content on the Kazaa network. "Kazaa operators know the difference and make the decision as to whether they facilitate legitimate or illegitimate downloads," said Speck. "It's very clear they are facilitating and authorising global copyright infringement." Sharman disagreed, claiming it bought the Kazaa software "with the express purpose of building it into a legitimate channel for the distribution of licensed, copyright protected content which in turn financially benefits artists". "There is no doubt this is a cynical attempt by the industry to disrupt our business, regain lost momentum, and garner publicity," said Sharman. "The assertions by plaintiffs are hackneyed and worn out. It is a gross misrepresentation of Sharman’s business to suggest that the company in any way facilitates or encourages copyright infringement." Monash University and the University of Queensland have challenged the order, and the arguments will be heard before Justice Wilcox at 3.30 pm today. Sharman Networks, Australian subsidiary LEF Interactive and BDE will face the record company lawyers before Justice Wilcox on Tuesday. According to MIPI, there are around three million users simultaneously online and connected to the Kazaa network at any one time sharing around 573 million files. Over 850,000 tracks are made available by over 2,500 Australian users. If each downloaded track was purchased for US$0.99 the total would be over US$2 billion per month globally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2004 I don't get it. What are they looking for exactly? A big sign saying "we're evil"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2004 Looking for IP addresses and servers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted February 6, 2004 There looking for all of the stolen music, it must be in one big computer somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JN News 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 So, what does this mean? Should we all start panicking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Do not worry the sky is not falling another P2P network can and will support your sharing needs. Just don't pay for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Hot Thumbtack In The Eye 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 MoleSlayer Posted on Feb 6 2004, 03:51 PM There looking for all of the stolen music, it must be in one big computer somewhere. No, Kazaa's network is not centralized. If it was, then kazaa users wouldn't be getting sued, RIAA would just take kazaa down like Napster and Audiogalaxy(RIP) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k thx 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 MoleSlayer Posted on Feb 6 2004, 03:51 PM There looking for all of the stolen music, it must be in one big computer somewhere. No, Kazaa's network is not centralized. If it was, then kazaa users wouldn't be getting sued, RIAA would just take kazaa down like Napster and Audiogalaxy(RIP) I think that was irony. Although with Mole, you never can tell... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Since this happened in Australia, someone will have to clarify this for me Was there an actual government/police force behind these "raids" or can private parties just do this kind of thing at their whim? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2004 Well Kazaa deserves it. Spyware ridden POS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning Flik 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 Since this happened in Australia, someone will have to clarify this for me Was there an actual government/police force behind these "raids" or can private parties just do this kind of thing at their whim? MIPI obtained an Anton Pilar order – which allows a copyright holder to enter a premises to search for and seize material that breaches copyright without alerting the target through court proceedings – yesterday from Justice Murray Wilcox, and began raiding premises in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria this morning searching for documents and electronic evidence to support its case against the peer-to-peer companies. The answer you seek is bolded in the quotation provided. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 Well Kazaa deserves it. Spyware ridden POS. Don't be a mark use K-Lite ++ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2004 Well Kazaa deserves it. Spyware ridden POS. Don't be a mark use K-Lite ++ Agreed. K-Lite rules. I don't even use it for music much anymore unless it's out of country bands or rare tracks that aren't sold on CD anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites