So What Did You Think Of The Contract Singing?

[Guest FrigidSoul]

*Directs RRR to WM VI*

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

*Directs FS to every other show other than WM VI and maybe the Kane/HHH match in 02.*

 

The IC belt was of circumstance in Hogan/Warrior; Warrior holding the belt did not mean he was #1 contender. Warrior, as #1 contender who happened to hold the belt, just put it on the line as "something to lose". Of course, I was 7 at the time, I could be wrong. But as big fan of the IC title and as one who has a particular soft-spot for WM 6, I don't think I am.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

I'm looking through the PPV archives and trying to find the one where Bret was IC champ and faced the World Title holder(whom I can't remember for the life of me right now). I'm pretty sure it happened on a PPV and not a Saturday Night Main Event.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Don't bother. Historically speaking, maybe a handful of people who were IC champions got a World Title shot - and more likely than not it wasn't because they were IC champions, but rather had another issue to deal with - while a significantly large amount of IC champions didn't. It doesn't add up or give support to "The IC Champion is technically #1 contender".

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Well I do remember them saying that Warrior got the shot because as the IC title holder he was the #1 contender. It happened though!

 

Looking through the PPVs I stumbled across WM VIII...god how I wish they had included Flair/Savage on Flair's DVD set. What I wouldn't give to be able to watch that match again.

[geniusMoment 0]

*Directs himself to the television to watch IC champ HBK against World champ Bret

Wait a minute, in which direction did the laughs for that joke go?

[JHawk 0]

IC Champ Shawn Michaels faced Bret for the WWF Title at Survivor Series 92, but the match was signed before HBK won the IC belt.

 

As far as the contract signing, it's another case of WWE deciding "Fuck the people who pay attention, let's play to the stupid people who buy our bullshit."

 

I agree that HBK deserves a rematch, storyline-wise. Bitch all you want, but throughout wrestling history, non-decisions have almost always meant an automatic rematch. I have no bitch about that aspect of it.

 

But they've already tested our patience with the bullshit "legal loophole" that fucked with continuity from only a year ago, and now this? I don't know too much about contract law, but it's a pretty safe bet that underneath the dotted line that HBK signed are the words "Chris Benoit", and those two little words would be scattered throughout the contract. Shawn Michaels' name wouldn't be on it.

 

Plus, why in the hell would there NEED to be a contract when the Rumble winner is GUARANTEED the title shot?

 

My head hurts.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Id love to believe that they signed the HBK/HHH match so that they could pull a WM X and have Benoit wrestle someone and then face the winner of that match, but I dont see it happening. The biggest problem is I don't know who they could have Benoit face that would make the match have a purpose aside from just because its not fair if he doesn't wrestle a match.

[Anya 0]

Didn't HBK beat Crips in a tag match to get the original shot on RAW?

 

 

I think the whole idea of two guys drawing over and over and then someone wins a title shot to set up a 3 way is pretty cool. It's a lot more clever than the usual "two guys in a #1 contender match draw" set up.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

For Shawn to truly have a succesful change over to heel status he must go and turn on his beloved Jesus

 

*imagines HBK giving Jesus SCM

 

 

Anyway, this would be a PERFECT reason for them to redo WM X. Benoit / Michaels could happen early and the winner faces HHH in the main event ala Bret / Lex / Yoko.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Id love to believe that they signed the HBK/HHH match so that they could pull a WM X and have Benoit wrestle someone and then face the winner of that match, but I dont see it happening. The biggest problem is I don't know who they could have Benoit face that would make the match have a purpose aside from just because its not fair if he doesn't wrestle a match.

well we know both Benoit and Matt Hardy together can put on one hell of a match. I just don't know if they could build up a suitable program for it...maybe Matt Hardy says "Screw the Rumble results, I jumped to Raw first and haven't seen a title shot let alone a World Title shot". I'd be happy with Benoit/Hardy, Michaels/Trips, then Benoit/Trips

 

On a side note I knew Bret was involved in one of those IC/World Title, I just didn't remember it was Survivor Series 92 because we all know that show was remembered for the ***** Kamala/Taker Casket Match *waits for laughter to ensue*

[Enigma 0]

lol, I love how everyone here is completely ignoring the fact that Benoit just beat Flair clean (via submission no less) and accusing them of burying Benoit because of one little promo.

 

Grow up.

[Guest FrigidSoul]

If Benoit is truly the number one contender he should be able to beat a senior citizen cleanly.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

If Benoit was able to find a loophole in the Smackdown contract, then why wouldn't he be able to find one in the RAW contract; especially given the nature in which it was signed. I mean, Heyman is Jewish and his father is a lawyer - the smackdown contract shouldn't have a loop hole in the first place, and if it did then Benoit (or his lawyers) must be a brilliant legal mind. And even if the contract wasn't made by heyman, but rather Stephanie, then she - being a mcmahon - with her mother being a lawyer, should have written a pretty darn good contract as well.

 

However, on RAW, it was Goofy-never-do-right-especially-with-contracts Bischoff who made it up... it should be a breeze to get through.

[JHawk 0]

I've never said anything about them burying Benoit. Hell, I took the backstage segment with Benoit as Benoit searching for Michaels and Bischoff offering him a match with Shawn in an attempt to prevent a locker room brawl.

 

I still find the insistence on building a triple threat match to be total bullshit, but I don't think they're burying Benoit yet.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Oh yeah, I forgot, Benoit got "the biggest victory of his career" (WWE.com and JR) by beating Ric "I've been beaten by HHH, Rico, and Chris Jericho to name a few and am currently one-half of the tag team champions" Flair.

 

BAH GAWD WATTA ACHIVEMENT!

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

But they've already tested our patience with the bullshit "legal loophole" that fucked with continuity from only a year ago, and now this? I don't know too much about contract law, but it's a pretty safe bet that underneath the dotted line that HBK signed are the words "Chris Benoit", and those two little words would be scattered throughout the contract. Shawn Michaels' name wouldn't be on it.

Yeah that something that I was thinking about. I mean in the contract Benoit and HHH names would be in it so really doesn't matter if HBK signed it or not cause he's name is not in it. Unless when they made up the contract instead of putting their names in it they just put "Wrestler A and Wrestler B."

[Anya 0]

lol, I love how everyone here is completely ignoring the fact that Benoit just beat Flair clean (via submission no less) and accusing them of burying Benoit because of one little promo.

 

Grow up.

Nobody cares about anyone beating Flair.

 

 

RRR, maybe Benoit IS a brilliant legal mind? He could be a lawyer in his spare time. Like how IRS was a tax man, Bossman was a cop and Repo Man was a...well a Repo Man.

 

Or maybe he just got an implant like Gunn.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Besides, there is a certain amount of time where you can nullify a contract made (or, in WWE terms, TEAR IT UP).

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Poor Barry Darso, from Demolition to crappy Repo gimmik

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Chris Benoit... Attorney at Law.

 

*HBK hits a superkick on Benoit and the ref counts 1....2...*

 

Benoit: "I OBJECT!"

 

JR: Oh YEAH! ATTA BOY BENLAW! HBK's motion for a quick dismissal has been DENIED! Ladies and Gentlemen, we may be going to a mistrail!

 

*Ref gets bumped*

 

JR: AND WE HAVE A HUNG JURY!! WE NEED A CHANGE IN VENUE!!

[Guest JRE]

HBK and HHH have been doing everything to put Benoit over since Royal Rumble, so quit bitching about one fucking promo. Big deal. Benoit didn't lose anything from this.

 

Does "everything" require putting themselves over Benoit first? Benoit didn't lose anything from this?

 

1) HHH punked him out in-ring and he didn't respond. He didn't sign the contract, he didn't say anything to him. This makes Benoit look BAD.

 

2) HBK said him vs. Hunter is "beyond" any contract (aka, beyond Benoit and what Benoit has done since that contract represents his chance at vindication) and Benoit said "yeah, you're right". This makes Benoit look BAD

 

3) With HBK signing the contract and superkicking Benoit and Benoit *not responding at all 'cept for bitching at Bischoff* it makes Benoit look BAD.

 

4) They keep bringing up this loophole and never actually say what it exactly is or was. They say that Benoit has worked hard over the past 18 years all over the world, but they never show any of it. Why should the fans believe ANY of this? They are basically being told (rather than shown) why they should cheer Benoit which does him no favours. When they say something and don't deliver on it, it makes Benoit look bad.

 

5) Benoit's Royal Rumble win is now officially meaningless since HBK can get there at a motion of a pen. This makes Benoit look bad.

 

6) Benoit did not come out first thing on the show. He has yet to take a dominant role (or even a significant role) in ANYTHING HE HAS DONE ON RAW. His match and contract signing was in the middle of the show - between the "big event" of Heyman and RAW, Vince on RAW, Goldberg spearing Heyman and Austin. His promo was placed right after a 10+ minute match where he - as opposed to HHH and HBK - could be seen as vunerable. This makes Benoit look bad.

 

7) You could say that making Benoit look weak makes his win even more sweet, but as he continues to look like a 3rd party, as he continues to play outsider in HHH/HBK, it does nothing but plant in our minds that Benoit is second-string. All it does is enforce what HHH is saying and that won't come clean at Mania - especially now that HBK had to get involved. Infact, it will only make it worse. THIS MAKES BENOIT LOOK BAD.

Ya know Rick, for all that Benoit lookin' bad that ya got goin on in your eyes- me and the friends I had over tonight still think he's pretty cool.

 

That's right buddy, I'm takin' the casual, real world approach whether you like it or not

[Guest FrigidSoul]

Chris Benlaw: Canadian Attorney in Practice. Coming to NBC this fall after Law and Order.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

That's right buddy, I'm takin' the casual, real world approach whether you like it or not

 

And I'm talkin about the thing(s) that actually happened regardless of what your circle of friends thought. I can't predict what the "casual" fan wants, no one can, I can only use what is on TV and I presented it to you as such. What was presented on TV made Benoit look bad.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

Chris Benlaw: I'm here to prove that my client is innocent... if the prosecutor wishes, he can try and PROVE ME WRONG!

 

*HHH picks up sledgehammer*

 

*Benoit picks up gavel*

[Guest TheHulkster]

In the unlikely event that Bret Hart agrees to appear at WMXX, this would obviously be the ideal match for him to be involved in. The writing is as clear as day. Nearly every wrestling fan out there knows of the heat between Bret, Shawn, and Hunter, and most know of Benoit's close ties with the Hart family. Bret could encourage Benoit to finish the job he was never able to and give Benoit his endorsement. It would put some serious heat on the feud and make it seem worthy of being a WM main event instead of an Unforgiven or Armageddon main event. It'll probably not happen, due to politics and Bret's condition, but it would make this feud. It would be a good lead in to the next PPV in Edmonton. Who would be a bigger face in Edmonton other than Benoit? Who has more heat in Canada than Michaels? (maybe Hebner, and he could be the ref). It could be a really great underlying story of Benoit overcoming ridiculous odds and make him a huge star in the company. They could turn this negative into a huge positive.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

*Chris Benlaw is in the ring*

 

Benlaw: You know, last week in my courtroom, there was an injustice done. The penalty of which will be PAIN and the sentence will be for life! I draw your attention to exhibit R, for Rocky *Shows on-screen the Rock making his triumphant return taking out Benoit *. Now, I call the defendant, The Rock, up to the stand for further questioning...

 

*The Rock comes out*

*Big Pop*

 

Benlaw: Now Rock...

 

Rock: Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa! You don't address the rock in that manner, first, the Rock addresses THE PEOPLE!

 

*Crowd goes nuts*

 

Rock: And when I say the people, I mean the millions (and millions) of th..

 

Benlaw: No you just wait a second THE ROCK. These aren't your people. They are my people. Where have you been all these past months? In Hollywood?? (crowd boos). You turned your back on the people a long time ago. This isn't your ring, this is my court... you could call it, The Peoples Court if you like... and in the best interest of the citizens of the WWE, I see it as my duty to prosecute you to the utmost extent of the law!

 

*Peoples Court Music Plays*

 

*Ed Koch comes out*

 

Koch: Now wait a second here!

 

*MEGA SIZED POP*

 

Koch: Did I hear this referred to as the PEOPLES COURT?

 

*CROWD GOING NUTS*

 

*Koch looks around and milks it*

 

*Benoit and Rock look at each other*

 

Koch: If you want to settle it in the ring, that's fine with me, but if you want to take it to the court, and you want to deal with the people, then I gotta problem with that.

 

*Crowd "oooohs"*

 

Koch: I was Mayor Of New York Fn City, I think I can take you two punks.

 

Rock: Well, Benlaw, it's time to lay the Stare decisis on Koches candy ass!

 

*Benlaw and Rock attack Koch and send him out of the ring thus forming the new Benlaw and Rock firm*

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Chris Benlaw: I'm here to prove that my client is innocent... if the prosecutor wishes, he can try and PROVE ME WRONG!

 

*HHH picks up sledgehammer*

 

*Benoit picks up gavel*

Oh and here's an idea if and when Benoit loses a case Benoit snaps and puts the judge or one of the jurors in the crossface.

[EdwardKnoxII 0]

Oh by the way Rudo you have to put Bossman with Benlaw somehow.

[HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0]

Id love to believe that they signed the HBK/HHH match so that they could pull a WM X and have Benoit wrestle someone and then face the winner of that match, but I dont see it happening.  The biggest problem is I don't know who they could have Benoit face that would make the match have a purpose aside from just because its not fair if he doesn't wrestle a match.

well we know both Benoit and Matt Hardy together can put on one hell of a match. I just don't know if they could build up a suitable program for it...maybe Matt Hardy says "Screw the Rumble results, I jumped to Raw first and haven't seen a title shot let alone a World Title shot". I'd be happy with Benoit/Hardy, Michaels/Trips, then Benoit/Trips

Matt Hardy in a majorly promoted Wrestlemania match other then a TLC match with his brother, Edge, Christian, and the Duds?

 

 

 

 

Hahaha!