JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 WWE could make some money on it, don't you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted February 17, 2004 WWE could make some money on it, don't you think? Jeez, have to listen to RVD's stoner schtick for an entire DVD? Besides, it'd demonstrate how cliched his matches are. Don't want to draw attention to that. Give me a good Jericho DVD or good Benoit DVD first. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michrome 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Honestly, they could make a good bit of cash on this. Throw on the insanely overrated Lynn matches, a Sabu match or two, some tags, etc....insta cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I'd rather buy a DVD titled "Best of the Worst Gimmicks". Actually, I would want a DVD like that. RVD today is in no way appealing for a DVD. Maybe 2 years ago when he actually gave a shit about how he wrestled, but not now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Uhh, because RVD sucks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD today is in no way appealing for a DVD. Maybe 2 years ago when he actually gave a shit about how he wrestled, but not now. The concept of a DVD is to include some of his best matches from the past. There are surely enough Van Dam WWE/ECW matches to fill up one, possibly two, DVDs. The way he wrestles now should have absolutely no effect on whether or not he deserves to get a DVD based on the matches he once had. Besides, if WWE actually gave Van Dam a REASON to give a shit about his wrestling, he might be back to actually being motivated. Stick him in a high-profile storyline and watch his enthusiasm pick up. Put him on Heat against John Heidenrich and well.....you can't be expecting stellar results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD today is in no way appealing for a DVD. Maybe 2 years ago when he actually gave a shit about how he wrestled, but not now. The concept of a DVD is to include some of his best matches from the past. There are surely enough Van Dam WWE/ECW matches to fill up one, possibly two, DVDs. The way he wrestles now should have absolutely no effect on whether or not he deserves to get a DVD based on the matches he once had. So WWE is putting out a Best of RVD in ECW video? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD today is in no way appealing for a DVD. Maybe 2 years ago when he actually gave a shit about how he wrestled, but not now. The concept of a DVD is to include some of his best matches from the past. There are surely enough Van Dam WWE/ECW matches to fill up one, possibly two, DVDs. The way he wrestles now should have absolutely no effect on whether or not he deserves to get a DVD based on the matches he once had. So WWE is putting out a Best of RVD in ECW video? Not this again. RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 2001 RVD vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 2001 RVD vs. Stone Cold vs. Kurt Angle - No Mercy 2001 RVD vs. Stone Cold - Smackdown in 2001 RVD vs. The Undertaker - Vengeance 2001 RVD vs. Eddie Guerrero - Judgment Day 2002 RVD vs. Chris Benoit - SummerSlam 2002 RVD vs. Christian - Ladder Match - October Raw 2003 I just named a whole bunch of good-great RVD WWE matches that would be suitable for a DVD. Have you SEEN what's on that John Cena DVD? These RVD matches smoke almost any of those Cena ones. And personally, I think a Van Dam one COULD sell better than a Cena one, because you'll be getting some of the ECW crowd and a large percentage of the WWE crowd (people STILL like Van Dam, believe it or not) I don't see why RVD couldn't have his own DVD. I really believe it would move quite well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Every single one of those matches are already on DVD.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Every single one of those matches are already on DVD.... So are Brock's. That didn't stop them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 One more reason I wouldn't want an RVD DVD: His best matches are in the WWF Days, so there'd be lots of blurs. As for the matches: RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 2001 - Good, but had a better match at Summerslam I thought. RVD vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 2001 - don't remember RVD vs. Stone Cold vs. Kurt Angle - No Mercy 2001 - I hate Triple Threats, especially ones with McMahons running in. RVD vs. Stone Cold - Smackdown in 2001 - Um....don't remember. RVD vs. The Undertaker - Vengeance 2001 - RVD jobbing again? Jesus. RVD vs. Eddie Guerrero - Judgment Day 2002 - Good, but RVD jobs AGAIN. RVD vs. Chris Benoit - SummerSlam 2002 - Didn't think it was that great, but one of his better 2002 matches. RVD vs. Christian - Ladder Match - October Raw 2003 - Over-rated. Put Ladder Match from 2001 instead vs. Jeff Hardy if they had to put either of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Every single one of those matches are already on DVD.... So are Brock's. That didn't stop them. The difference is RVD isn't getting pushed nor will he again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 I would like to see a collection of RVD WWE ladder matches and Hardcore title defenses against Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, Hardy, Tajiri. For his material from ECW it should include his time as tag team champion with Fonzie & Sabu, the Jerry Lynn feud, the 18+ month TV Champion title reign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheAnvil Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD today is in no way appealing for a DVD. Maybe 2 years ago when he actually gave a shit about how he wrestled, but not now. The concept of a DVD is to include some of his best matches from the past. There are surely enough Van Dam WWE/ECW matches to fill up one, possibly two, DVDs. The way he wrestles now should have absolutely no effect on whether or not he deserves to get a DVD based on the matches he once had. So WWE is putting out a Best of RVD in ECW video? Not this again. RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 2001 RVD vs. Chris Jericho - Unforgiven 2001 RVD vs. Stone Cold vs. Kurt Angle - No Mercy 2001 RVD vs. Stone Cold - Smackdown in 2001 RVD vs. The Undertaker - Vengeance 2001 RVD vs. Eddie Guerrero - Judgment Day 2002 RVD vs. Chris Benoit - SummerSlam 2002 RVD vs. Christian - Ladder Match - October Raw 2003 I just named a whole bunch of good-great RVD WWE matches that would be suitable for a DVD. Have you SEEN what's on that John Cena DVD? These RVD matches smoke almost any of those Cena ones. And personally, I think a Van Dam one COULD sell better than a Cena one, because you'll be getting some of the ECW crowd and a large percentage of the WWE crowd (people STILL like Van Dam, believe it or not) I don't see why RVD couldn't have his own DVD. I really believe it would move quite well. I'm not going to argue that Cena's DVD shouldn't be out, or that an RVD one would be better. RVD's would be better simply because he's been carried to good matches by great workers. Honestly, most of the matches you listed I like, but I hate RVD in them. For instance, RVD v. Benoit at SS '02. I liked the match because of the rolling Northern Lights suplexes, but RVD's selling in the match was terrible. The same can be said about any of those matches you listed. Good workers carrying RVD to watchable matches. I'd rather have an Ultimate Warrior DVD than RVD. He's better in the ring and was more over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Every single one of those matches are already on DVD.... We take some of those WWE matches.....add some pretty rare ECW matches.....there. We have a fairly decent DVD that people will be compelled to buy. Besides, the RVD/Austin and RVD/Christian matches aren't on DVD. Feel free to add RVD/Eddie Ladder match (Memorial Day Raw 2002), or RVD/Benoit Raw match (in July/August 2002) if you want. The difference is RVD isn't getting pushed nor will he again. Didn't we say the same thing about Benoit and Eddie a few years ago? Give Vince time. If he gets desperate enough, it COULD be time to push Van Dam again. It's not likely, but there's a possibility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD is marketable. Vince can cash in anytime he feels like it. I wouldn't worry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Anytime he wanted? Isn't that a bit stretching it there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 That's the problem. I don't really think that RVD is marketable. He's a bad wrestler with a drug-abuser (implied) gimmick. Who do you market that too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 When has RVD ever used the drug gimmick in WWE? Remember most of the WWE fans have short term memory so they probably already forgot about the ECW days of Bill Alphonso using the drug references. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 That's the problem. I don't really think that RVD is marketable. He's a bad wrestler with a drug-abuser (implied) gimmick. Who do you market that too? Obviously stoners who spend all their money on crack. Wouldn't that make it hard to buy a $25 DVD though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 RVD should certainly have had a dvd before John fucking Cena, that is not even to say RVD should have one right now, but easily before Cena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Anytime he wanted? Isn't that a bit stretching it there? Well, he is the owener. He can do whatever he wants about it. That's the problem. I don't really think that RVD is marketable. He's a bad wrestler with a drug-abuser (implied) gimmick. Who do you market that too? Well, he has a shitload of fans who still care about him even with the shitty booking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Also, wouldn't that make it hard for them to watch and follow the product? Also, WWE has hinted at it several times. They always say stuff like "have you been in RVD's stash" or RVD talking to someone saying "What have YOU been smoking?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Well, he has a shitload of fans who still care about him even with the shitty booking. So does Shane Douglas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Well, he has a shitload of fans who still care about him even with the shitty booking. So does Shane Douglas So, since I'm a Zach Gowen fan, that means he should get a DVD? SWEET!! (also petitions for a DVD of Giant Gonzales/El Gigante) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 So does Shane Douglas Average WWE fan: Shane who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted February 17, 2004 So does Shane Douglas Average WWE fan: Shane who? Average wrestling fan: RVD who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2004 Dean Douglas was the man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 17, 2004 As for the matches: RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 2001 - Good, but had a better match at Summerslam I thought. The match that has been called "The Summerslam Shitfest"? 1/2*, at the most. They can throw the two big IC title ladder matches on there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted February 17, 2004 As for the matches: RVD vs. Jeff Hardy - Invasion 2001 - Good, but had a better match at Summerslam I thought. The match that has been called "The Summerslam Shitfest"? 1/2*, at the most. They can throw the two big IC title ladder matches on there. I thought it was good when I first saw it...but I haven't seen it since. Was it that bad? and Shane Douglas is famous for being a big dickhead who burned his bridges with every promotion, and several times in some cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
