Martha Stewart found guilty on all four counts.

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The defense really botched this case.

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meh...'omglolthisandthatandwhateverelselol!!' is fast becoming the right's best and only "arguement" around here

Thanks, "duder." We like to keep it simple for you.

My suggestion...defend your side and your opinion with an arguement of some merit.

 

Try not to constantly just form words and internet slang into one really big word. An attempt at self-depreciative sarcasm is not particularly intelligent.

 

I realize that its hard to defend everything that Bush & Buddies have done to this country during his term, but please, trynottokeeppostingthisomglolshit!.

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I'd of course rather see Ken Lay go down, but if it's gotta be Martha to send the message, then Martha it is

 

I bet she gets 10, probation in 5... which is justifiable for what she did

 

Lay however deserves 50 years

Whats the lesson to learn?

 

Rip families of for billions and ruin lives, but buddy up to Bush & Co = wrist slappage at worst.

 

Make dainty lil bullshit, rip investors off for far less, dont buddy up to Bush & Co = Guilty in court, but we'll see what happens. Im sure it will be worse than the nothing that Enron etc guys get(and that guy that Clinton was paid to pardon as well).

You really outta check your facts since all the Enron shit happened during BILL CLINTON's term. They got caught during Bush's term, but there are no ties to Bush.

 

But yes Lay does deserve the maximum for what he did. I have friends and their families that now have nothing because of it.

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If Murderer A kills some guy and gets off with a slap on the wrist, it doesn't mean Murderer B should. All it means is that the judicial system screwed up with Murderer A.

 

Winning some battles (namely as many as we can) is better than losing all of them.

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You guys all seem to be forgetting that while Enron blew up during Bush's administration, they rose to prominence and made the majority of their money on Clinton's watch.

They also forget that Ken Lay was good friends with George W (who calls him "Kenny Boy") AND Bill Clinton (golfing partner.)

 

I'm just upset that the media is throwing so much attention on Martha and nothing on the other corporate crooks just because of who she is.

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I'm just upset that the media is throwing so much attention on Martha and nothing on the other corporate crooks just because of who she is.

 

I agree here, but the media will never change.

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Also No one would should be cheering yet, until worse offenders start getting out away.

Hmmm......Just what in the hell was I trying to say there?

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think she'll try and decorate her cell?

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My suggestion...defend your side and your opinion with an arguement of some merit.

 

Try not to constantly just form words and internet slang into one really big word. An attempt at self-depreciative sarcasm is not particularly intelligent.

 

I realize that its hard to defend everything that Bush & Buddies have done to this country during his term, but please, trynottokeeppostingthisomglolshit!.

I would, but, sadly, I doubt it would matter with you. I've never seen you address anything that anybody presents seriously to you with anything but a dismissive "Bush is evil and he sucks!" or a lame smiley, accompanied with that "duder" phrase. I guess that's either because you realize that you don't really have a valid point or that you're too dumb to understand what is being pointed out to you (i.e. Cerebus trying to explain McCain/Feingold to you)...I don't know. Either way, I'm done with it.

 

They also forget that Ken Lay was good friends with George W (who calls him "Kenny Boy") AND Bill Clinton (golfing partner.)

 

I'm just upset that the media is throwing so much attention on Martha and nothing on the other corporate crooks just because of who she is.

True, Jobber. Lay has past ties to Bush as well, but my point was really just to remind some people here that most of their illegal doings happened on Clinton's watch. Not that Clinton personally had anything to do with their dealings or permitted them to carry on - it's just that popular opinion seems to be to just blame Bush for something that he really doesn't/didn't have a whole lot of control over.

 

Agreed about Martha, too. Her case is overblown.

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True, Jobber.  Lay has past ties to Bush as well, but my point was really just to remind some people here that most of their illegal doings happened on Clinton's watch.

But I don't think that really can matter as there's not a whole hell of a lot Clinton could do to look into a company's finances if he doesn't know they're doing something wrong. Though I think we actually agree on the same conclusion, but take different ways getting there.

 

People assume Bush should have known since he and Lay were such good personal friends, and my only guess was that Lay wasn't telling anyone since his buddy Dubya and his friend Slick Willie at the greens knew about it. If he didn't tell Clinton, why do people assume he told Bush? And if he did tell Bush and was spreading the word, Clinton probably would have known

 

The general answer is that I don't think a lot of people even know about the Lay/Clinton connection since the Bush one is harped on so much.

 

Either that or both Presidents knew and were in on it.

 

 

And that's all I got to say about that.

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meh...'omglolthisandthatandwhateverelselol!!' is fast becoming the right's best and only "arguement" around here

 

Actually, we just sit back and let you or hunger open your mouths.

 

It's the "let the opposition prove themselves fools" approach.

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think she'll try and decorate her cell?

I remember a Mad Magazine from like 1997 that had "Martha Stewart's Cell Decorating Tips" with "how to make your own 8' by 10' castle." It involved decorating your cellmate, making toilet cozies, etc. Whoulda thunk it.

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http://channels.netscape.com/ns/tv/story.j...20040305XNYR901

 

Two Networks Bungle Stewart Verdict

 

By DAVID BAUDER

NEW YORK (AP) - In the chaotic rush to report the Martha Stewart verdict live on television Friday, at least two networks initially called it wrong and had to quickly correct themselves.

 

CNBC and MSNBC at first reported Stewart was not guilty on some of the four charges against her in the stock-trading scandal. The jury convicted Stewart on all of the charges.

 

The culmination of a trial for a woman who built her homemaking empire in large part on television drew intense interest from TV networks. ABC, CBS and NBC broke into regular programming to report the verdicts.

 

With cameras not allowed in the courtroom, networks had to devise intricate plans to get the news out - involving scarves, placards, cell phones and quick feet.

 

Most networks had staff members in a courthouse room watching the verdict over closed-circuit television. When a verdict was read, the staffers raced to report it.

 

For CNBC and MSNBC, this involved producers who left the courthouse in lower Manhattan carrying placards - red for guilty, green for not guilty - with a number that corresponded to the specific charge against Stewart.

 

CNBC reporter Mike Huckman was standing outside the courthouse with two large posters listing the charges against Stewart and her ex-stockbroker, Peter Bacanovic, and boxes marked ``guilty'' and ``not guilty.''

 

Huckman marked ``not guilty'' for the conspiracy charge against Stewart and went at least a minute before correcting it, scribbling over the wrong ``X'' with a red magic marker.

 

``I apologize,'' Huckman said. ``The confusion out here is immense.''

 

David Friend, CNBC's senior vice president for business news, said the incident should not overshadow strong work done by Huckman during the trial.

 

``It was chaotic,'' Friend said. ``He had a hard time seeing the verdict as it was coming out of the courthouse.''

 

On MSNBC, reporter Dawn Frantagelo reported that Stewart was found not guilty on the first charge against her. A graphic with the incorrect information was flashed for six seconds before being taken down.

 

``I don't know why it was wrong,'' spokesman Jeremy Gaines said. ``It was very loud and it was quite chaotic. There was a small bit of confusion and we corrected it immediately.''

 

Another network employed staffers who left the courthouse waving color-coded scarves frantically in the air to signal their reporters.

 

CNN used four separate staff producers, one for each count against Stewart, who ran outside and phoned a producer. That producer then shouted the verdict into the earpiece of correspondent Mary Snow.

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What has George Bush done to help Ken Lay and the Enron crowd since that company went bust?

 

Didn't Bush's mother-in-law lose a nice chunk of coin when Enron went belly-up?