D!sh network.......

[NoCalMike 0]

I have d!sh and whenever I have on certain stations I keep getting a scrolling message talking about possibly losing MTV/Comedy Central/BET/Nickelodeon etc........Also it seems like Dish trys to put a black bar over the message so people don't know about this, but the black bar only comes up over the scrolling message maybe 1/3 of the time. Anyone know what the hell is going. MTV/Comedy Central/Nick seems like too popular of channels to be taken off a Service Provider.

 

EDIT: Ok I just looked at the D!sh site, apparently it is a Viacom issue, and D!sh thinks they are raising rates too much. This will probably be settled, but still......I want my Comedy Central......

[Guest]

I just got that while watching NC State/Wake Forest....it involves CBS and probably Spike TV too.

[2GOLD 0]

GOD DAMN VIACOM!

 

How do they PLAN to make money then???

 

This is total bs!

[MrRant 0]

They were scrolling that on VH1 last night when watching when Metal Ruled the World.

[Guest]

Glad I have digital cable.....I saw the scroll at my aunt's anyway.

[MrRant 0]

If DISH does drop it... watch for a mass exodus... of course they could just raise rates to pay for an increase.

[jimmy no nose 0]

Is that what that scroll was? I saw that on MTV2 when I was watching Beavis and Butthead this morning. I don't even have Dish Network, so I don't really care if they lose them, but the thing is annoying.

[MrRant 0]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....threadid=373579

[Guest OctoberBlood]

**Kisses DirectTV**

[NoCalMike 0]

the hilarious part is that each company is urging customers to blame the other one. Each is advertising the other company's phone number for you to call in and complain. Both make plenty of money methinks. This sucks, but in all honesty I wouldn't be worried because it inovles so many channels, no way D!sh is gonna want to lose them, and no way Viacom will want to leave on the leading providers.

[Guest El Satanico]

I get the messages and I'm on DirecTV.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

Everyone gets the messages because Viacom is putting them in its master feed thats sent to Cable, Directv and DishNet.

 

I think its funny that DishNet put the Viacom CEO's home phone number on their site and in the recorded message you get if you call the number on the crawl.

 

And don't forget, Spike TV is a Viacom channel so bye bye RAW (the post Wrestlemania RAW anyway if its not settled within the week). That would really piss Vince off too, as the loss of 9 million DishNet subscribers would definitely have at least some impact on the RAW rating.

 

And, Dishnet is also in danger of losing some of the Turner (well, not really but thats a good thing to call them) Channels (Boomerang, CNN/Headline News, Cartoon Network, Turner Classic Movies) If they lose the viacom channels and the Turner Channels, DishNet might as well go out of business.

 

And DishNet can't really raise rates, as a good portion of the people who signed up within the last year or have contracts with their package price fixed until 2005 or 2006 and they already raised their rates recently. So which is worse, another price hike when they claim to be cheaper than cable or losing a bunch of channels?

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I get the messages and I have digital cable...

 

I don't know why it feels the need to warn me about losing those channels on a system I don't have...

[Guest OctoberBlood]

Yeah, I've been getting them on DirectTV.

 

But I guess theres not really a way to make these messages appear on one service from Viacom. Since their cable broadcasts should and is the same as their dish broadcasts, or directtv broadcasts.

[Eclipse 0]

I get them while watching MTV2 on my regular antenna TV! For some reason, my antenna picks up a NEAR perfect signal for MTV2, and I saw that message scrolling while watching Beavis and Butthead like at 1AM..

[NoCalMike 0]

I wish I had more details on the "unreasonable" fee hikes. I mean is Viacom really being unfair, or is this just D!sh trying to shave off more fat to reep in more profits?

[DerangedHermit 0]

I wish I had more details on the "unreasonable" fee hikes. I mean is Viacom really being unfair, or is this just D!sh trying to shave off more fat to reep in more profits?

It's probably a little bit from case A and a little bit from case B.

 

Dish Network? more like dicked network amirite? lol

[Jobber of the Week 0]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....threadid=373579

Some guy on that forum:

Don't forget Comcast will also give you $25/mo off for 16 months to "buy back" your dish.

 

 

*realizes he has DTV at one house, Comcast at another*

 

*realizes the DTV house needs a new dish*

 

 

*maniacal laughter* Too bad we already piled on so many special offers that they're cancelling each other out now. I have a feeling we'll be sticking with digital at that location for at least as long as The Sopranos season runs anyway, though.

[Mole 0]

This is why Comcast owns all.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

This is why Comcast owns all.

Actually, FCC restricting telco while turning a blind eye to cable is why Comcast owns all.

 

Oh, wait, I see. I meant that in the anti-competitive monopoly sense, and you meant it in the positive compliment sense. Well, I wouldn't exactly say that. If you live on this coast, a lot of channels are available in PT-only form (used to be all of them, although now east coast premiums like HBO are suddently available.)

 

Both have their ups and downs, but I enjoy watching Raw with the east coast smarks (which is most of everyone here it seems) and DirecTivo is almost the definition of the term "Killer App."

[NoCalMike 0]

This is why Comcast owns all.

Actually, FCC restricting telco while turning a blind eye to cable is why Comcast owns all.

 

Oh, wait, I see. I meant that in the anti-competitive monopoly sense, and you meant it in the positive compliment sense. Well, I wouldn't exactly say that. If you live on this coast, a lot of channels are available in PT-only form (used to be all of them, although now east coast premiums like HBO are suddently available.)

 

Both have their ups and downs, but I enjoy watching Raw with the east coast smarks (which is most of everyone here it seems) and DirecTivo is almost the definition of the term "Killer App."

Yeah I like getting the live Raw.

[Mole 0]

This is why Comcast owns all.

Actually, FCC restricting telco while turning a blind eye to cable is why Comcast owns all.

 

Oh, wait, I see. I meant that in the anti-competitive monopoly sense, and you meant it in the positive compliment sense. Well, I wouldn't exactly say that. If you live on this coast, a lot of channels are available in PT-only form (used to be all of them, although now east coast premiums like HBO are suddently available.)

 

Both have their ups and downs, but I enjoy watching Raw with the east coast smarks (which is most of everyone here it seems) and DirecTivo is almost the definition of the term "Killer App."

I just personally don't like satelittes. Digital cable is just as good as satelitte TV.

 

Since we have all of the channels, we recently just got inDemand for all of the movie channels for free.

 

And I have Cablevision at school and it sucks. I really like it when channels are organized in the correct order and they have ESPN 2 on channel 35 and ESPN on channel 36. That makes zero sense to me.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

The reason Cable rates go up a lot is because the cable companies never fight the content providers (like Viacom in this case) rate increases. They normally just accept them and pass the expense off to customers in rate hikes.

 

I can't even get cable where I live (Comcast serves the area but not as far out as live) which Is why Im stuck with the combo of a large C-Band dish and a Directv system. Directv has much better hardware than Dish Network but Dish Network is cheaper because the guy that owns it fights the price hikes whenever he can.

[2GOLD 0]

Marvin is in the same boat I am. I'm too far out for Comcast and the one cable company we do get totally SUCKS on price.

 

Hopefully Dish Network gets this solved cause the retarded morons at DirectTV claim we have a DTV on our house because someone who HAD a DirectTV in ANOTHER STATE moved in while going through his divorce.

 

And since the bills at one point were sent here, they now claim the dish IS HERE and we are trying to screw them. Cept the DTV is STILL running in the OTHER STATE and the bills are being sent to another state, not this house. Yet, WE have the DTV that is being USED in another state....

 

God damn morons.

I have no desire to get involved with a company that doesn't know where their own sh*t is at.

[Guest TheArchiteck]

I saw it on comedy central...but it got blacked out so quick...couldn't read the whole thing.

At first I thought it was a hack...but I guess not.

This will suck A LOT.

Hopefully it's being blown out of proportion and will be settled and all is well.

After having Dish I could never go back to Comcast. The reception is not as clear and the prices are too fucking expensive compared to Dish.

[Downhome 0]

From SkyReport.com

 

All Eyes on DISH, Viacom Carriage Spat

 

It's coming down to the wire for EchoStar and Viacom, two companies engaged in the bitter programming carriage dispute that has landed in federal court.

 

Viacom networks and owned-and-operated CBS channels delivered via EchoStar's DISH Network are poised to go dark at midnight tonight. That is unless the two sides of the programming carriage skirmish reach a last-minute deal or the U.S. District Court overseeing the case makes a move that could keep the channels live on the DBS service.

 

During the weekend, a scroll detailing the looming shut-off of signals for Viacom networks has appeared sporadically on MTV, channel 160 on DISH Network. Sometimes, a black bar appears across the scroll.

 

Some familiar with the skirmish said while both sides appear to be far apart, the situation with the negotiations remains "fluid." Still, EchoStar CEO Charlie Ergen said last week he wasn't positive about keeping the Viacom networks, telling reporters last week, "I am not feeling really good about them right now."

 

As of press time, both Viacom and EchoStar had no comment on the issue.

 

Meanwhile, tonight, Ergen may address the Viacom situation during his monthly "Charlie Chat" with customers.

 

I don't know what to say yet, but if this goes down, Dish Network will have a brand new DirectTV customer on their hands, and my entire family and everyone I know as well. Eh, at least if it happens I could finally order the TNA shows if I ever wanted to.

[NoCalMike 0]

so is D!sh owned by EchoStar, or are they two seperate entities? If I lose all these channels, DirectTV is getting a call tomorrow.

 

What sucks is, I live in an area that gets Comcast but I happen to live on a street with 3 houses and all of us have about 2 acres of land, and when they built all the new homes in around us, they never put in a cable adapter-plug-in system in our street, and when we called the cable company they said it wasn't worth it to them to put one on our street, even if all of us decided to get Comcast Cable.

 

So it looks like DirectTV for me if this deal doesn't get worked out. I really don't understand this, I mean we aren't talking 2-3 crappy channels here, this is a big group of quality channels.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

The reason Cable rates go up a lot is because the cable companies never fight the content providers (like Viacom in this case) rate increases. They normally just accept them and pass the expense off to customers in rate hikes.

Well, that and they make a ton of money. My local cable company has changed hands like a cigarette in a circle of 14 year olds. When I was born through most of my youth it was a tiny company called MultiVision. They were crap. For a number of years, Cartoon Network was a premium channel and the Preview Channel (now TV Guide Channel), which we enjoyed in the days before TVs had onscreen guides, got canned because, according to them, surveys showed that every channel including the Chinese/Cantonese stuff was getting more votes, so Preview went so they could keep adding more PBS stations from around the Bay. Whatever.

 

So, in short, MultiVision sucked. But they kept pumping rates higher and higher. Why? Because that's what these provider companies make their money. Have you ever actually seen your cable bill go down?

 

Anyway, MultiVision became something else, which became something else, and the selection of funny niche channels like Comedy Central and Game Show Network were still slim pickings, although eventually Cartoon Network became non-premium. In the mid 90s the next town over got a new provider, "CableONE" which provided more than what we got, which is when we got frustrated and went DTV. Then AT&T came in and bought everything and then Comcast bought AT&T.

 

 

And that's where we are now. And despite all that collaboration, prices are STILL high.

 

which Is why Im stuck with the combo of a large C-Band dish

 

C-Band rocks, dude. Even the small dish people will acknowledge that C-Band is better than what they do, but what they do is better for the "average user."

 

Directv has much better hardware than Dish Network but Dish Network is cheaper because the guy that owns it fights the price hikes whenever he can.

 

Uh? Dish is constantly getting in fights with content providers. How do they pay for all the legal mumbo-jumbo? They pass on the pain to you. In the end it winds up being about the same amount.

[NoCalMike 0]

yeah I loved how these fucking shitbag corporations said the media consolodation would help keep prices lower.......fucking lying assholes.

[2GOLD 0]

This is total bs

 

I either get stuck with a shitty cable company or I get stuck with a group of assholes who don't even know where their dishes are AT.

 

I hope Dish solves this probelm cause this is a god damn joke.