Splitting up Haas & Benjamin

[Guest Your Olympic Hero]

Alot of people seem to think that they are going to split up the WGTT on Raw this coming week in the draft. I know alot of people on here are "Benjamites" I know their tag push seems dead, but I feel it might be too early to split them up and let them go out on their own. I don't think they have enough heat as a team to survive as singles wrestlers. As long as they don't go with a Haas vs. Benjamin feud........... your thoughts?

[Lightning Flik 0]

Trust me, they've got enough heat as a team. Just need to give them one last push, into the quaky ground of "we almost had it but it was YOUR fault", then split them and feud them for whatever singles title is optionable. I don't care if they feud themselves or against someone else, just give these two guys singles pushes already.

 

The tag division is more or less dead anyways.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

See, I hate when they do stuff like this. Is there something wrong with them fighting singles and tag team matches? Obviously neither guy is gonna get pushed to the moon, but they could still co-exist as a team and fight in singles stuff too.

[Guest Goodear]

Agreed, there's no reason to do a split feud when WWE is already hurting for heels. Just have the guys seperate and generate a bit more individuality for themselves since they're such a unit at the moment and they'll do fine.

[Lightning Flik 0]

Well I don't think that's a bad idea, keeping them as a unit.

 

However, I'm just saying that a split (meaning them just go their own ways) might be the best way to have them. Yes, it hurts the tag division, but it helps the heels out more so as they are single units then.

[Guest Coffey]

Well, I see it as Charlie Haas is holding Shelton Benjamin back, but Haas himself needs Shelton. I just can't fathom Haas as a singles superstar, however I expect it from Shelton.

 

Benjamin seems to have all the tools, except for he doesn't seem natural or comfortably behind the microphone just yet. That comes from a lack of experience in that department however. Charlie Haas just doesn't stand out at all.

 

I don't really care what happens to Charlie Haas after they split. I don't really want to see him feud with Shelton, so I hope they are on different shows. Perhaps Haas could still stick to tag team wrestling for a little bit longer? Maybe with someone like Matt Morgan? They look alike right now anyway, and Morgan isn't come along too fast by himself...or at least he wasn't when he was on tv.

[deancoles 0]

Haas reminds me of guys like Bobby Eaton and Arn Anderson, he's best suited to Tag team wrestling and will probably never be in the main events.

[Guest Coffey]

Bobby Eaton and Arn Anderson were both in main events though....

[deancoles 0]

Bobby Eaton and Arn Anderson were both in main events though....

Not for a long period of time, they were both seen as Upper Midcard during the 80s.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Bobby Eaton and Arn Anderson were both in main events though....

Not for a long period of time, they were both seen as Upper Midcard during the 80s.

Is there any reason why the WGTT couldn't be used like this?

[Lightning Flik 0]

Bobby Eaton and Arn Anderson were both in main events though....

Not for a long period of time, they were both seen as Upper Midcard during the 80s.

Is there any reason why the WGTT couldn't be used like this?

Because a lot of us Benjamites want him as a freaking singles wrestler and winning the WWE Title.

 

It's a long time happening, but still. We'd rather have him as a singles wrestler. We haven't made any noise about Benjamin being a singles wrestler till now, just because the tag division is pretty dead, and frankly, they've been sort of pushing Benjamin a little bit as the star of the tag team. So obviously they get that he's entertaining and that he connects well with the crowd and are testing to see if he can go it on his own.

[MarvinisaLunatic 0]

I wish I could take credit for this, but I cant, and I cant say who its from, but..

 

They could be the "Worlds Greatest Single Guys" if they split up.

[NYU 0]

I think people seriously underestimate Charlie Haas. Although he still has a lot of room to improve, he's already one of the better technical wrestlers on Smackdown. And, as seen from some of his promos after leaving Team Angle, he does have fairly good mic skills that are sure to improve from here. It's just a shame he isn't allowed to talk on the mic enough. He also has a sick finishing move with the Haas of Pain, which we often don't see enough of. Haas does have the ability to be a future player in WWE and, while he may not be as talented as Shelton is at this point, I still think he has the ability to become a successful singles wrestler.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

I can see Charlie as the US Champ and Shenlton as the IC Champion (if they moved him to RAW). I wouldn't mind them splitting up to win the midcard titles on the respective brands. Although, I wish they would have one last run with the WWE Tag Team Championship before they split.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

I think they are both good wrestlers.

 

But when I look at them...I see a different potential in both ring work AND star status.

 

I see Haas as a midcarder...and Benjamin as an uppermidcarder with the potential to be more.

[Celtic Jobber 0]

Shelton Benjamin has alot of potential, but Vince McMahon doesn't exactly have a track record of pushing black guys to the top of the card (I don't include The Rock in this because he's half-Samoan).

 

So, because of various factors, including possible racism on the part of WWE officials, I don't think Benjamin will ever be more than a mid-card -- upper-midcard guy.

 

Charlie Haas on the other hand, could end up being the Bret Hart of the late 00's.

[thuganomics 0]

This probably wouldn't be a surprising circumstance.

 

I see Shelton moving in to a singles feud though, while Charlie will find another tag team partner, maybe Nova.

[Scroby 0]

You know we all see them being great and being high on Smackdown or either Raw depending on the lottery, but you know what Vince sees them on....Heat or Velocity.

[Guest Choken One]

I just dont like how people are just acting as if Haas is chopped liver, I see them as equals.

[Guest JMA]

Haas will probably get the bigger push if the WGTT splits up. Just take a look at Bubba and Bradshaw. I think both Haas and Benjamin have a strong potential to be main eventers one day.

 

Hm. I wonder if Shelton will be de-pushed since he's good friends with Brock. Heck, didn't Brock convince him to get into pro wrestling in the first place?

[Hektik 0]

If it were up to me I would push Shelton as a singles wrestler. Haas can just reform the WGTT with Nick Dinsmore.

[Guest Choken One]

why can't Haas go solo as well?

 

Bring Up Dinsmore and Nova and have them STEAL the WGTT moniker from Haas and Benjamin in a little angle where Haas and Benjamin split...Call it "Winner becomes WGTT"...while Bashams and 2 Cool feud over the titles.

[Lightning Flik 0]

why can't Haas go solo as well?

My Reason:

 

Haas hasn't really shown much stuff that has impressed me in any fashion that makes him standout to be something more than a midcarder or tag team partner.

 

Yes, he's got a killer finisher, and yes, Haas is pretty damn good in the ring. Yet, his mannerisms and self charisma just don't "shine". It's kinda hard to explain that very well, but I just don't see anything in Haas that make HIM believe he's a star.

 

That might just be due to the WWE though having him and Benjamin in the pits for the last long while though.

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

Actually, I think Haas could be a very good singles worker if they gave him half a chance, but his biggest problem is that he's always been a tag team wrestler, whether teaming with his brother Russ, or of course teaming with Shelton now, But honestly, Charlie could make a fine upper midcard worker, his in ring work isn't a problem, he cuts a half decent promo, has a great look and a cool finisher, hell he'd make a great babyface if WWE would let art imitate life, and book him as a guy dedicating his career to his late brother and tag partner.

Shelton on the other hand, is basically going to be a star, right from the moment he started in OVW as one half of The Minnesota Stretching crew with Lesnar (and was far more impressive than Lesnar IMO), He's always had the tools to be something really special, it's just he's always ended up in teams, but in the limited bit of singles work he did in OVW, Shelton looked like awesome, he even managed to carry Rodney Mack to some great matches in their feud.

So that's how I see it, Haas will be a solid upper midcarder at best, probably at the IC/US title level, while Shelton will probably be one of WWE's premier stars in the near future. If Shelton Benjamin isn't WWE champ within the next 2-3 years, something is clearly wrong.

[Scroby 0]

I think tonight proved they could very good singles wrestlers.

[deancoles 0]

It's weird how they've been a team for 14 months and we're calling for them to stop teaming together on a regular basis.

[DCMaximo 0]

My cynical mind still thinks that if Vince pushes a WGTT member to the main event, it'll be Haas. He's been given a few more chances to wrestle as a singles competitor than Shelton and I bet Vince can already imagine video packages for WMXXV with Charlie talking about overcoming obstacles like his brothers death, and how this world title victory will be for him. Yes, that's pretty tacky, but thats Vince.

[Guest Anglesault]

I think I saw someone say that Haas should get saddled with Matt Morgan. Damn, what did he do to you?

 

And a Nova/Haas team would be interesting, especially once Nova claims to have invented Haas.

[Guest Deviant]

I'm joining those who want to see one peaceful break-up between anyone in wrestling, be it a tag team, love interest, whatever. Just one peaceful break-up where the two agree to go their own ways but continue to be friends.

[Guest Deviant]

Disregard this post.