Everyone loves Chavo Sr

[Guest AndrewisyourHero]

WWE Wrestlers High On Chavo Sr., Low On Lita

Posted By Ashish on 03.19.04

 

Some interesting notes...

 

- Many backstage are surprised at how well Chavo Guerrero Sr. is fitting in backstage. Most had heard that he had a big ego during his prime and would be hard to get along with. On the contrary, reports are that he has been bending over backwards to get along with everyone.

 

- Some WWE officials have been critical of Lita since she returned from neck surgery. Many think that she has not been comfortable in the ring since returning. Some defend her, however, by saying that the only reason people think that is because she doesn't take as many risks as she used to.

 

Credit: Torch Powell Report

[geniusMoment 0]

Well your answer to the problem is right there. Put chavo sr. in a red wig and bingo problem solved.

[Guest Quik]

Many people have cited the fact that the fans realization of Lita's lack of talent may contribute to her lack of heat.

[Guest Fook]

Exactly.

 

The women's division improved by leaps and bounds while Lita was out (thanks to Finley) and now that she's back, her crappiness is amplified.

 

And it doesn't help that before, she'd be in the Hardys' corner and occasionally jump in and do a moonsault or something but now she has to wrestle full matches on her own.

[Guest Coffey]

Some defend her, however, by saying that the only reason people think that is because she doesn't take as many risks as she used to

 

...or because she sucks.

 

Seriously, she doesn't take as many risks? She was a babyface running interferance. It was ignorant to being with. She never could wrestle. She would just hit a random Hurricanrana or a shitty moonsault against The Dudleyz or E&C.

[Guest MikeSC]

WWE Wrestlers High On Chavo Sr., Low On Lita

Posted By Ashish on 03.19.04

 

Some interesting notes...

 

- Many backstage are surprised at how well Chavo Guerrero Sr. is fitting in backstage. Most had heard that he had a big ego during his prime and would be hard to get along with. On the contrary, reports are that he has been bending over backwards to get along with everyone.

 

- Some WWE officials have been critical of Lita since she returned from neck surgery. Many think that she has not been comfortable in the ring since returning. Some defend her, however, by saying that the only reason people think that is because she doesn't take as many risks as she used to.

 

Credit: Torch Powell Report

Astonishingly enough, I assumed it was from the Torch before I even opened the thread.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

[Guest Coffey]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

Tits.

 

EDIT: Lemme rephrase: Established tits.

[Darthtiki 0]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know. Granted I am huge Amy Dumas mark but I wouldn't mind if she wound down her brief career due to said injury and go back to working with animals like she did while rehabbing.

[CanadianChick 0]

Seriously, she doesn't take as many risks? She was a babyface running interferance. It was ignorant to being with. She never could wrestle. She would just hit a random Hurricanrana or a shitty moonsault against The Dudleyz or E&C.

The most devastating knee in the business!

 

The thing that gets to me about Lita the most is the flow of her matches. She literally just stands there, waiting for the next move. Her tranistions and flow suck hard.

[AndrewTS 0]

"If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know. "

 

Allegedly, T&A. However, none of those are actually regular women wrestlers.

[Guest Anglesault]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know.

Looks, for the most part.

 

Sable and Terri are much better looking than people give them credit for, and they are much prettier than Lita.

 

Plus, they aren't booked as threats in the women's division.

[Guest JMA]

If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know. Granted I am huge Amy Dumas mark but I wouldn't mind if she wound down her brief career due to said injury and go back to working with animals like she did while rehabbing.

I have no real personal beef with Amy Dumas. I just don't find her good or entertaining in what she does. I respect the fact that she helps animals and all, but that isn't really what this is about. Torrie and Stacy bring T&A to the table. They're eye-candy and nothing more. To be honest, Amy isn't as attractive as either of them. Sable has residual overness from her stint in the "Attitude" era. She's not worth much as a talent, but the fans seem to respond to her. Terri doesn't bother me much since all she does is interview others from time-to-time.

[CanadianChick 0]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know.

Looks, for the most part.

 

Sable and Terri are much better looking than people give them credit for, and they are much prettier than Lita.

 

Plus, they aren't booked as threats in the women's division.

Terri was pretty back in the day, but now? Ew.

 

But really, she isn't harming the company in any way. She gets hardly any TV time, and when she does, she's a backstage interviewer.

[razazteca 0]

She should be Matt Hardy's manager.

[Darthtiki 0]

My point is that if I watched wrestling for T&A, then I shouldn't be watching wrestling. Wrestling is not about moderately attractive women in evening wear or lingerie rolling around the squared circle, the time used up for that could be used to give underused workers a match that could possibly give one of those competitors (who have kissed enough HHH and McMahon ass) a moderate push (anything larger would be seen as an act of war against Hunter).

 

What can I say I'm a devil's advocate, plus I pretty much loathe the entire "Diva" stable except for Lita, Stacy, and Molly since they are somewhat different than the norm.

[Guest MikeSC]

Lita really needs to be released. Her wrestling is shitty, she can't talk, and even her overness is quickly fading. She also can't rely on the high-spots to get over since she was injured. Lita brings next to nothing to the table.

If she brings nothing to the table, then what does Torrie Wilson, Grandma Botox (Sable for those of you playing along at home), Stacy Kiebler, and Terri Runnels bring, if someone could tell me I'd really love to know. Granted I am huge Amy Dumas mark but I wouldn't mind if she wound down her brief career due to said injury and go back to working with animals like she did while rehabbing.

Isn't Sable gone now?

-=Mike

[AndrewTS 0]

Plus, they aren't booked as threats in the women's division.

 

...anymore.

 

I distinctly remember a Molly/Torrie match where Molly had to sell Torrie's shitty kicks and basically bodyslam herself. It was sickening because Molly barely got any offense in and had to cheat to win the damn match. It was when the Women's champ could go to both shows.

 

Isn't Sable gone now?

 

No, she has an injured implant and supposedly was going to leave with Brock but nothing has been heard pertaining to that. Besides, Brock's leaving is all a work anyway.

[Guest Trivia247]

How old is Chavo Sr compared to Eddie?

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

I think that I had either Cole or Tazz mention Chavo Sr. being in his late 30s or something, I think when defending him being assaulted, so yeah, it would've come from Tazz.

 

Before her injury, Lita wasn't bad in the ring at all - those Litacanranas rocked my socks.

 

Get this - I was in a Yahoo! Chat Room once, and was instant messaging someone who claimed to be Lita.

 

"Lita" dropped hints about how she "never comes alone". Me, playing alone, asked her about Jeff, but she wouldn't tell. I puzzled over whether it was Matt when he arrived.

 

Anyway, the point is... Well, there's really no point, but "Lita" did make it clear that she wouldn't be trying a Litacanranas anytime soon.

 

If this was indeed Lita, she sure was a stuck-up bitch.

 

Either that, or just a sicko. Oh, how I loathe those impersonators...

 

A while back, guys were going around in the street mask-less telling people that they were Slipknot.

 

[Guest Choken One]

Chavo Sr is in his mid 50's

[Vyce 0]

Isn't it obvious why they love Chavo Sr.?

 

He's only the best color man they've had in the past 10 years!!!!!

[Guest JMA]

Before her injury, Lita wasn't bad in the ring at all - those Litacanranas rocked my socks.

Lita was never decent in the ring. She was just a sloppy spot-artist. She only seemed better back then because every other female was there for T&A purposes. Now they've almost all surpassed her; thanks in large part to Finlay.

 

There's a reason her Litacanranas were nicknamed "Murdercanranas."

[snuffbox 0]

Besides, Brock's leaving is all a work anyway.

thanks for clearing that up...

[EricMM 0]

The reason Lita can't manage Matt is that I'VE certainly never seen her do anything (promo, etc) better than she wrestles, and uh, she can't wrestle too good either.

 

To be honest I don't know who's a good manager anymore, besides maybe T.Long. Certainly no one brings the content like ROH's Julius Smokes. That guy is great AFAIK, he doesn't wrestle OR take bumps. Managers should just come out and pump people up. Lita has never been able to do that with her character, just her thong and ranas.

 

They Hardyz were the ones over, not her.

[Guest JMA]

I've really been digging Chavo Sr. as a manager. The guy's a legend and I think it really gives Chavo heel heat for his father to help him win matches. I'm a mark for male managers; so far we have Chavo Sr., Teddy Long, Paul Bearer, and Ric Flair (if you count him). I could also see Coach managing someone in the future. If they ever bring up Kenny Bolin from OVW we'll have one more.

[Guest Choken One]

Coach would be a good old school Manager but I don't see him being effective as he actually manages to outsize a good deal of the workers on the roster...

 

and i'd expect him to be Teddy Long 2.0

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

I remember when Steph had the Women's belt and they let Lita wrestle and it was like wow, she wasn't too bad. This was some battle royale or something, winner gets a title shot. But I'm really impressed with some of the newer female wrestlers, and now Lita just seems out of place. I think retirement would be for the best. I'm sure she's made enough to live comofrtably for a while. And now all we have to work on is teaching the women how to throw a punch, 'cause none of them seem to do it too well from what I've seen.

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

Plus, they aren't booked as threats in the women's division.

 

...anymore.

 

I distinctly remember a Molly/Torrie match where Molly had to sell Torrie's shitty kicks and basically bodyslam herself. It was sickening because Molly barely got any offense in and had to cheat to win the damn match. It was when the Women's champ could go to both shows.

 

I remember that match too, it was about a week after WWE started with the granny panties storyline, and I think Molly challenged Torrie to the match after she'd been made fun of. The match wasn't half bad, though Molly having to sell Torrie's rather pathetic offense was terrible, though Molly killing Torrie with a running Liger bomb for the finish was cool. The saddest thing is, to cash in on Playboy, I could see Torrie in the division and being put over everyone (especially since Torrie want's to be regarded as a "serious wrestler" now)

As for Lita, anyone remember the match she had with Stephanie on Raw, when Lita won the womens title? The spot where Lita blew a rana and spiked Steph right on her head and nearly knocked her out.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

That was nasty (the suck-canrana) but the one she gave to Rico once was even worse. She completely MISSED and almost knocked him out.