Ultra Violence 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 I have been wondering over the past couple of days whether the WWE will give out some of the finishers of the guys who have left since mania (oviously with different names). For example a repackaged F5, Jackhammer or Dominator could give an impressive finisher to a new up and coming talent. Also the "Brock Lock" could be a dominating submission move. Discuss~~~~~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DangerousDamon 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Some of the Cruiserweights could bust out a Sit Out Dominator most def. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 the Jackhammer will go back to its rightful owner... Billy Gunn! LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 They'll probably leave the F-5 to Brock, since it's all a work anyway. Although if you believe it isn't, they probably expect Brock to come back so they wouldn't want to give his finisher to some one else, yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 20, 2004 They might want to give one of those moves to Botchtista, just to give him a better finisher than the BotchtistaBomb. But Good lord, I'd fear even more for the health of anyone he faces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 They might want to give one of those moves to Botchtista, just to give him a better finisher than the BotchtistaBomb. But Good lord, I'd fear even more for the health of anyone he faces. Considering that Brock has dropped people wrong with the F-5, the potential to drop guys on the back of their heads with the Jackhammer, and seeing the insane bumps the Hardyz took on the Dominator--I don't think that's a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Unless Brock's friend is lying to me, which I don't think that he is, IT'S NOT A FUCKING WORK. If it were, don't you think that Paul Heyman would've started building towards something on SmackDown! ? But the frightening thought of Brock coming back somehow and being Drafted to Raw to continue feuding with Bill Goldberg is still there... As of right now, I believe that it is not a work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
David Blazenwing 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Unless Brock's friend is lying to me, which I don't think that he is, IT'S NOT A FUCKING WORK. If it were, don't you think that Paul Heyman would've started building towards something on SmackDown! ? But the frightening thought of Brock coming back somehow and being Drafted to Raw to continue feuding with Bill Goldberg is still there... As of right now, I believe that it is not a work. I'm with you. Forget any reports on the 'net. Until I see Brock Lesnar back on my TV, I refuse to believe this is a work. And just to be clear: I hope I don't see Lesnar on my TV again anytime soon, unless he gets a better gimmick, like his original. The whiny ass titty baby scaredy cat gimmick wasn't working for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 No net report I know of is saying it is a work. I'm just treating this very skeptically. Until I hear that NFL.com has confirmed Brock signing to the NFL or I see him suited up for an NFL game, I'm still going to believe it is a work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Just out of interest, why do you think Vince would do a work like this? As in, what would be the point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Just out of interest, why do you think Vince would do a work like this? As in, what would be the point? Media attention? To trick all those stupid kids on their computers? Maybe get Brock more heat while simultaneously getting him more mainstream exposure? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Media attention? Possibly, I don't live in the US so I'd find it hard to gauge whether that might be it. I don't buy that Vince would put one of his biggest assets out of commision for a time just to trick the IWC, Vince isn't that bad a businessman. Can't see it being for heel heat either. 'Cause when Brock gets back he'll either get huge pops for being back, or that bad sort of 'Go away, we don't want you anymore' type of heat. I just can't see that the positives of doing a work like this outweighing the negatives...but if it ever turns out to be a work I'll be sure to remember to give you your kudos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 I don't buy that Vince would put one of his biggest assets out of commision for a time just to trick the IWC, Vince isn't that bad a businessman. Doesn't have to be the only reason. Remember that Brock's had several reigns but hasn't been a huge draw. In fact, the wrestlers that were the biggest draws had a good deal of mainstream exposure--Brock hasn't had that exposure yet. Vince isn't that bad of a businessman? Let's not open that can of worms. Remember that businessmen are by their very nature gamblers. Can't see it being for heel heat either. 'Cause when Brock gets back he'll either get huge pops for being back, or that bad sort of 'Go away, we don't want you anymore' type of heat. If they build his return up with heel promo video packages, they probably could stave off the return pops. As for the "bad" heat--did that ever stop WWE from pushing X-Pac? I just can't see that the positives of doing a work like this outweighing the negatives...but if it ever turns out to be a work I'll be sure to remember to give you your kudos. Keep in mind: The "T" is for Thomas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Juventud Guerrera just started using the Stretch Muffler (Brock Lock) last week on TNA, calling it the Juvi Lock. :::sarcasm::: ORIGINALITY~!, baby! :::sarcasm::: A few other random notes: - Rhyno already has the spear as his finisher, so I don't think anyone will use that. - Someone needs to start busting out the Fishermanbuster more often. Brock was the only guy to really use it on a semi regular basis. - I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I guess Brock won't get to redeem his BOTCHED~! SSP from last year's WrestleMania, eh? He's not gonna be using it in the NFL...or will he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cran Da Maniac 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Kidman will take the F-5 since he got mad at Brock for stealing his finisher at last year's Wrestlemania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 - Someone needs to start busting out the Fishermanbuster more often. Brock was the only guy to really use it on a semi regular basis. Well, Brock's version was more like an elevated Fisherman's Suplex Bomb, or something else crazy. Fisherman's Buster implies that he dops them on his head, which a) he didn't and b) is still pretty much a rare occurance by McMahon rule. Still, isn't the Fisherman's Buster Jazz's finisher? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Well, Brock's version was more like an elevated Fisherman's Suplex Bomb, or something else crazy. Yea, but still...it's a variation fo the move. Still, isn't the Fisherman's Buster Jazz's finisher? Ya, but she hardly ever uses it anymore. She always uses the Bitch Lock (Ricky Steamboat-style Double Chickenwing Lift). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 They might want to give one of those moves to Botchtista, just to give him a better finisher than the BotchtistaBomb. But Good lord, I'd fear even more for the health of anyone he faces. Why do you think that when he came back again, he had a bunch of matches with the un-injurable RVD? I remember in one of those matches, he dropped Rob on his head. Had it been anyone else, it would have been pretty bad. But Rob's a freak, so he wasn't injured. Anyways, I think Edge will keep the spear since Goldberg's leaving and no one cares about Rhyno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 and no one cares about Rhyno. *Rhyno turns on computer and goes online* *Logs on to his favourite wrestling messageboard, TheSmartMarks* *Reads CC's post* *A single tear falls down his cheek* *Gets IM'd by "MS MessEdger"* MS MessEdger: "U no it's tru" Manbeast666: "I no" MS MessEdger: "LOL" Manbeast666: " " MS MessEdger: " ) " Manbeast666: "U've got a big smile even online" MS MessEdger: "I no" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 20, 2004 They might want to give one of those moves to Botchtista, just to give him a better finisher than the BotchtistaBomb. But Good lord, I'd fear even more for the health of anyone he faces. Why do you think that when he came back again, he had a bunch of matches with the un-injurable RVD? I remember in one of those matches, he dropped Rob on his head. Had it been anyone else, it would have been pretty bad. But Rob's a freak, so he wasn't injured. Remember when Flair and Orton literally had to spot Foley on a BotchtistaBomb? (JR covered by calling it a triple team, but they guided him down.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted March 20, 2004 and no one cares about Rhyno. *Rhyno turns on computer and goes online* *Logs on to his favourite wrestling messageboard, TheSmartMarks* *Reads CC's post* *A single tear falls down his cheek* *Gets IM'd by "MS MessEdger"* MS MessEdger: "U no it's tru" Manbeast666: "I no" MS MessEdger: "LOL" Manbeast666: " " MS MessEdger: " ) " Manbeast666: "U've got a big smile even online" MS MessEdger: "I no" I'm SO adding "MS MessEdger" to my Buddy List now! RRR: Always has the inside scoop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted March 20, 2004 Wasn't Cena's F-U originally created as a way for his character to mock Brock's F-5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bort Report post Posted March 20, 2004 The Brock Lock was orginally A grounded bearhug right, a few weeks before mania i saw him doing Tony Mamulukes Finishers and calling it the brock lock I was surrprised that no one stole the Simmions finisher while he was still in the WWE, i cant remeber the last time i saw that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Assuming Brock is really gone, who gets the Happy Dance!~ as a hand-me-down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Speaking of finishers, did Brock ever bust out with Yamada Legbreaker again after debuting it against Benoit? Wasn't Cena's F-U originally created as a way for his character to mock Brock's F-5? Yup. Assuming Brock is really gone, who gets the Happy Dance!~ as a hand-me-down? Rene Dupree is the closest we got. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LucharesuFan619 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Speaking of finishers, did Brock ever bust out with Yamada Legbreaker again after debuting it against Benoit? The whatamacutta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 21, 2004 The Brock Lock? He was using that recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ravman77 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 How about Sliced Bread #2? Thats a sweet finish that could surely (God forbid!) get a cruiser over seeing as Spanky wont be back anytime soon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Report post Posted March 21, 2004 The only time that I got to see Brian Kendrick administer (or at least attempt to) was on the Judgment Day 2003 DVD, seeing as we lost the shows from late 2002 through to right after Vengeance. I got home from getting off the plane from Melbourne for the WWE Ruthless Aggression Tour to turn my television onto a Confidential segment about Zach Gowen. The episode that the Lesnar/McMahon Steel Cage match was made, with Kurt Angle as special guest referee, setting up SummerSlam. When that show ended, Lesnar really need a shave. *Continue babbling to himself* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clean rob 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2004 Speaking of finishers, did Brock ever bust out with Yamada Legbreaker again after debuting it against Benoit? Yeah, he beat Mysterio with it on the Smackdown in San Diego. Once again, it looked sick as hell. I was surrprised that no one stole the Simmions finisher while he was still in the WWE, i cant remeber the last time i saw that When was the last time Simmons actually hit the Dominator on TV? I can't recall him using it in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites