Brock the football player

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Mike Morris had an update on Brock Lesnar this morning on his radio show. Morris said that Lesnar arrived in Arizona today to start training for his NFL tryouts. He weighed in at 283 lbs, ran a 4.65 40, had a 35 inch vertical jump, a 10 foot standing long jump, and benched 225 lbs. at 30 reps. These are all standard tests that NFL teams do. Brock is expecting to improve these numbers over the next six weeks.

 

Credit: PWInsider.com

 

 

I figured this could be put here, but if this belongs in "Sports" sorry.

 

Anyway, those are awfully good measureables. The 40's surprising to me, I didn't take him for the real quick on his feet type. Assuming Brock's 6'4" or so (I think that's about right) he looks like he could be a defensive end in a 4-3. Still though I don't know if he's going to be able to acquire the knowledge to be an NFL player in the short amount of time given.

[Guest Vitamin X]

NFL-wise, Brock is the definition of raw.... He has never even played football in any organized form, ever, unless I am misinformed here...?

 

He has never had to deal with playbooks, memorizing what he has to do on a play...and on top of it all defensive players are most largely expected to be team players....

[Papacita 0]

NFL-wise, Brock is the definition of raw.... He has never even played football in any organized form, ever, unless I am misinformed here...?

I think he was All-State in High School or something. I read that somewhere.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Yeah he played in high school and was invited to try out for a few teams before he signed with the WWF I think.

[Placebo Effect 0]

He has never had to deal with playbooks, memorizing what he has to do on a play...and on top of it all defensive players are most largely expected to be team players....

I can't imagine Brock having a hard time remembering plays when you consider that most WWE guys layout their matches prior to going into the ring, especially with a young guy like Brock. He probably memorized every facet of that Iron Man Match prior to it.

[Guest Vitamin X]

Still it's difficult when wrestling has a specific formula to it, as opposed to being with a team such as New England who has an entirely different defensive scheme every single week of the season.

[Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes]

Brock Lesnar is no longer employed by WWE....oh the hell with it.

 

 

 

Anyway, I could care less about Brock the wrestler, so everyone can figure my opinion on Brock the "NFL Player".

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

His career's over - he'll never make it in the NFL and if he were to come back to Vince, things would never be the same.

[Lightning Flik 0]

I still contend that there is SOMEONE who will pick up Brock Lesnar.

 

He might be raw, but I'm quite sure that he'll be able to find some team desperate or in need of a defensive linemen/running back that will sign him up on a minimal deal.

[Guest Jimbo]

Isn't Brock 6'2?

 

And even if he is 6'4, he's grossly undersized to play defensive end. Line backer? Sure, but he'd still need to pack on some weight.

 

Just for Haha's, some team should pick him up and make him a safety and let him go around and knock the shit out of people.

[Guest I Got Banned for Sucking]

Just for Haha's, some team should pick him up and make him a safety and let him go around and knock the shit out of people.

 

While it wouldn't be funny, he could be like a Forrest Gump.

[Brett Favre 0]

Actually, he's well sized to be a linebacker. That should be his position, IMO.

[Conspiracy_Victim 0]

Isn't Brock 6'2?

 

And even if he is 6'4, he's grossly undersized to play defensive end. Line backer? Sure, but he'd still need to pack on some weight.

 

Just for Haha's, some team should pick him up and make him a safety and let him go around and knock the shit out of people.

Grossly undersized? I'm sure Dwight Freeney (6'1", 268), Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (6'4", 255), Jevon Kearse (6'4", 255), Hugh Douglas (6'2", 281), Leonard Little (6'3", 261)...anyway I don't think 6'2", 283 is 'grossly undersized' by any stretch.

 

As for linebacker, I don't think he's got the lateral quickness to play sideline to sideline like linebackers are supposed to play. Just an opinion of course.

[Guest Jimbo]

eh, maybe you're right, I saw the benched number (225), not the real weight limit (283) *embarrassed*

[2GOLD 0]

The bench number is kind of low but the rest of the numbers are actually better than some of the young players entering the draft.

 

If he improves his bench numbers then I think he could be a Linebacker, Defensive End and possibly a tight end with those speed numbers and size. Offensive linemen is a stretch right now.

 

He's got very good size and speed and could also be up for fullback but those will be part of advanced workouts to see what the determination on what he can and can't do.

 

He's very raw but those numbers have got to make some more scouts interested. And I'm confused, why is it suddenly everyone is treating Brock like he can't do this??? If it's playbook memorization, some NFL rookies have major trouble with that which is why some (not all of the ones mind you) sit out a year to learn the position and better understand the schemes and playbook.

 

His bench numbers are weak but his size and mobility opens up lots of options for teams wanting to take a chance.

 

I'm not overly shocked but I am rather impressed by these early stats.

[Guest Coffey]

The bench number is low? He did fucking thirty reps!

[MixxMaster 0]

Brock Lesnar is no longer employed by WWE....oh the hell with it.

 

 

 

Anyway, I could care less about Brock the wrestler, so everyone can figure my opinion on Brock the "NFL Player".

If you CAN care less, why are you complaining?

[Damaramu 0]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

[nl5xsk1 0]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

It's the same tests that they do at the combine ... they don't have a guy bench his maximum, they use the (relatively) low weight of 225 and have each player lift it as many times as they can. Thirty is a pretty good number.

[jester 0]

I'm kind of hoping Brock hits the big time in the NFL. Wins a Superbowl and everything. And that way JR will sob himself to sleep at night for the hoss that got away.

[Downhome 0]

I'm kind of hoping Brock hits the big time in the NFL. Wins a Superbowl and everything. And that way JR will sob himself to sleep at night for the hoss that got away.

Imagine if Brock does all of that, but then returns to WWE on RAW.

 

JR would have a cream-fest every week over the guy.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Well, he wouldn't be the first guy to get an NFL job solely based on combine numbers.

[Guest wildpegasus]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

Foley as in Mick Foley can bench 450?? Are you sure on that because I've never heard him sprout out numbers like that or any numbers for that matter. There aren't too many natural lifters out there that can legit bench 450pds.

[Ripper 0]

I say its all a plot to for Vince to get back at the NFL.

 

Peyton Manning will be ran down in the parking garage before a big game, and Stone Cold Jeremy Shocky will head up the investigation and Discover it was Brock who will revel that he did it for Vince. Vince will come out and say IT WAS ME THE WHOLE TIME~!, plugg a upcoming PPV, HHH will Pedigree everyone on the field for no reason, spit water and they will all walk off into the sunset.

 

Watch..

[Damaramu 0]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

Foley as in Mick Foley can bench 450?? Are you sure on that because I've never heard him sprout out numbers like that or any numbers for that matter. There aren't too many natural lifters out there that can legit bench 450pds.

Read Foley is Good. He says it in there when talking about growth hormones and such.

[Ripper 0]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

Foley as in Mick Foley can bench 450?? Are you sure on that because I've never heard him sprout out numbers like that or any numbers for that matter. There aren't too many natural lifters out there that can legit bench 450pds.

Read Foley is Good. He says it in there when talking about growth hormones and such.

If my punk ass could bench 210 in highschool, I am pretty sure that someone that works out 1000 times more than I did could max out at that much easily...well...not easily because that wouldn't be a max...

[Guest wildpegasus]

I'm pretty sure that they didn't have him max out on the bench. If Foley can bench 450 then I'm sure Brock can do more than that.

They just put the 225 on there and see if you can do it at least 20 times.

Foley as in Mick Foley can bench 450?? Are you sure on that because I've never heard him sprout out numbers like that or any numbers for that matter. There aren't too many natural lifters out there that can legit bench 450pds.

Read Foley is Good. He says it in there when talking about growth hormones and such.

If my punk ass could bench 210 in highschool, I am pretty sure that someone that works out 1000 times more than I did could max out at that much easily...well...not easily because that wouldn't be a max...

If you benched 210 in highschool than you're one very strong dude. Short limbs or long limbs? What was you bodyweight at and how much training had you done?

 

 

I won't be getting the Foley book but I'm interested in this so let me clarify. Foley seriously said he could bench 450lbs. Seriously????? Was he on grwoth hormone or anything according to his book? Did he use a bench press shirt while executing the lift?

 

And for the record here's Lesnar commenting on his bench press not too long ago:

 

-Caller asked what he bench-pressed. Brock said if he trained really hard for a couple of weeks, he could probably bench press 500 pounds

 

WP -- So Brock's saying his bench press is actually under 500 pds at the moment. Interesting.

[NYU 0]

Dama, it was a JOKE.

 

The line from "Foley is Good" was this:

 

"A visit to 'Foley's Gym' confirmed this. Sure, I was benching somewhere around 430 (or quarter to five in the evening), but the results weren't all that impressive."

 

He was talking about time when he made the joke. Not how much weight he could lift.

[Guest El Satanico]

If he was playing on the offensive side, he'd have alot more trouble. It's not as hard to play on the defense, so someone will pick him up. He has some good numbers and at least one team will see him as a worthy project.

[Fro 0]

Those are pretty good numbers... Brock needs to get his 40 time down but everything else is money.

 

I'm pretty sure Brock was listed at 6-4 as a wrestler at Minnesota, so he's not much shorter than that.

 

Anyone who says Brock isn't big enough to be a NFL DE is smoking something... he'd have to drop about 20 lbs at least to get to linebacker weight, probably 30.

 

He's certainly strong enough to be a DE and he knows how to take people down. If I were him and serious about it, if he gets cut he could get on in the CFL or Arena leagues for a year, and then retry in another year.