Mole 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Nobody gives two shits about Wonderfalls (which I'm guessing is one of those faggy Buffy/Angel bullshit shows). Or just a show that has depth. ABC can have the Bachelor, NBC can go with The Apprentice, CBS has Survivor, Fox has American Idol. Yes, I can deal with that too. We need a return to the sitcom comedies, no matter if it's a spinoff of Friends or a genuinely funny comedy like Arrested Development. Also, one hour dramas would be nice, too. It's good to see that CSI and shows of its ilk aren't faltering too much in the ratings, but it won't be long... I've been watching ABC Family in the daytime a lot lately. I miss shows like Family Matters and Step by Step. They will come back eventually, but it will be a few good years before that happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Has anyone here actually seen the Swan? I was watching it -thus making me guilty as the rest of the people who watched it- and perhaps for the first time, I was ashamed of television. They were basically having people (who weren't very good looking themselves) tell other people what is beautiful. The results were 2 women who looked like they had plastic surgery (high cheek-bones, full lips) and they weren't any more attractive after than they were before. I'd go as far as to say they looked worse. This is perhaps the worst message a television show has ever made and I'm thinking it had to be sponsored by the plastic surgeons association of america cause you know their rates will increase after this. Making people feel ugly has been a staple of television for as long as I can remember, but I don't think any took it to this length before. Lemme tell you this cause it's the truth, it's the imperfections which make us beautiful. To quote Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers The Power of Myth: Campbell: ...because the only way you can describe a human being truly is by describing his imperfections. The perfect human being is uninteresting--the Buddha who leaves the world, you know. It is the imperfections of life that are lovable. And when the writer sends a dart of the true word, it hurts. But it goes with love. This is what Mann called "erotic irony," the love for that which you are killing with your cruel, analytical word. (...) MOYERS: Perfection would be a bore, wouldn't it? CAMPBELL: It would have to be. It would be inhuman. The umbilical point, the humanity, the thing that makes you human and not supernatural and immortal--that's what's lovable. That is why some people have a very hard time loving God, because there's no imperfection there. You can be in awe, but that would not be real love. It's Christ on the cross that becomes lovable. And this show is basically making beauty a formula. Something that can be created rather than is. The only good thing this show has done is it got the people working out and getting in shape (only after lipo, of course) which is the only healthy thing they did. Because what they are doing is not healthy. They take people looking for gratification, people who will go to extreme lengths to change what they look like on the outside, who are clearly not happy with themselves, and then putting them in situations where they get voted on and thrown aside. And the music used was fucking HORRIBLE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nevermortal 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Nobody gives two shits about Wonderfalls (which I'm guessing is one of those faggy Buffy/Angel bullshit shows). Or just a show that has depth. You want a show with depth? Venture to FX on Tuesday nights or HBO on Sundays. I can already say with confidence that The Shield & The Sopranos are better than Wonderfalls, and that's just going by the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 10, 2004 We need a return to the sitcom comedies, no matter if it's a spinoff of Friends or a genuinely funny comedy like Arrested Development. Also, one hour dramas would be nice, too. It's good to see that CSI and shows of its ilk aren't faltering too much in the ratings, but it won't be long... I've been watching ABC Family in the daytime a lot lately. I miss shows like Family Matters and Step by Step. They will come back eventually, but it will be a few good years before that happens. whoa whoa whooooa Shows like Family Matters and Step by Step returning? That would be one of the worst moments in TV history. Even worse than "reality shows". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highland 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 We need a return to the sitcom comedies, no matter if it's a spinoff of Friends or a genuinely funny comedy like Arrested Development. Also, one hour dramas would be nice, too. It's good to see that CSI and shows of its ilk aren't faltering too much in the ratings, but it won't be long... I've been watching ABC Family in the daytime a lot lately. I miss shows like Family Matters and Step by Step. They will come back eventually, but it will be a few good years before that happens. whoa whoa whooooa Shows like Family Matters and Step by Step returning? That would be one of the worst moments in TV history. Even worse than "reality shows". Indeed, and anyone clamouring for the return of Full House deserves to be tortured, then healed so they may be tortured again. Repeatedly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Nobody gives two shits about Wonderfalls (which I'm guessing is one of those faggy Buffy/Angel bullshit shows). Or just a show that has depth. You want a show with depth? Venture to FX on Tuesday nights or HBO on Sundays. I can already say with confidence that The Shield & The Sopranos are better than Wonderfalls, and that's just going by the title. Have you seen the Soap-ranos this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 I never watched the Sopranos, but I decided to give it a try, so I'm going through season one on dvd now. Even if it has become a soap, once you get attached, you won't recognize it. Happens all the time a show goes bad. Look how long it took most of the Simpsons fanbase to acknowledge it. Full House was good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 10, 2004 It was? Even when I was of the proper age to appreciate such shows, I knew it was terrible. Of course that didn't stop me from watching it every week, for some sick reason that didn't involve me liking a single thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Well, see, here's the thing about Full House. You know all the sappy cliches a sitcom can fall into, and usually they take steps to try to avoid that. Well Full House wallowed in them. It's trite family crap on steroids, and that has a certain appeal, like picking a scab. Sometime you just want to revel in the television equivalent of marshmallow peeps, and you can do no better than Full House. Plus Steph was hot when she grew up a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 You want a show with depth? Venture to FX on Tuesday nights or HBO on Sundays. I can already say with confidence that The Shield & The Sopranos are better than Wonderfalls, and that's just going by the title. Yeah, both of those shows are awesome and I never said they weren't. And you can't tell if Wonderfalls was better than The Sopranos because only 4 episodes of Wonderfalls aired. Angel, The Sheild, Sopranos, and 24 are the shows on TV that have depth to them. The ones I know of that is. whoa whoa whooooa Shows like Family Matters and Step by Step returning? That would be one of the worst moments in TV history. Even worse than "reality shows". I can see the whole Step by Step deal, but Family Matters during it's early years was just so damn funny. Urkel's physical comedy is funny shit. Full House, on the other hand, is soooooo damn corny. I can't believe I used to love this show when I was younger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Younger? Hell. When I was in college, my second roommate watched Full House for an hour EVERY DAY. And never laughed or spoke a single word the whole time. Now THAT'S freaky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 On Full House: I saw Bob Saget do stand-up comedy last week. It was awful, and not in any of the good-awful ways I was expecting. He basically made a few jokes about being on Full House, talked about Dave Coulier shaving his balls, trash-talked audience members, and slung profanity in every direction. Which is charming, in a way, but he never really seemed to be fully into it. Also, the stunning finale of the act was him pulling out a guitar and playing a song about farts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 Hm, I'd heard his stand up was good. That's a shame. He's directed some good stuff though. If you saw him on the Jamie Kennedy Experiment, that really was funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 I heard he was really funny too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2004 By the way, Edwin, where did you see him and what kind of reaction did he get? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mosaicv2 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 MTVs Real World started it all off... FUCK THE REAL WORLD... I cant believe I said that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 FUCK THE REAL WORLD... *slips roofie in Real World's drink* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 I heard he sucked dick for coke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 On Full House: I saw Bob Saget do stand-up comedy last week. It was awful, and not in any of the good-awful ways I was expecting. He basically made a few jokes about being on Full House, talked about Dave Coulier shaving his balls, trash-talked audience members, and slung profanity in every direction. Which is charming, in a way, but he never really seemed to be fully into it. Also, the stunning finale of the act was him pulling out a guitar and playing a song about farts. I found Saget to be gold in "Half Baked." His whole spiel about blowing somebody to get crack had my jaw on the floor because I'd never seen him in anything besides Full House up to that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 FUCK THE REAL WORLD... *slips roofie in Real World's drink* I like watching the Real World because it just shows how dumb people can be. Plus the fact after I watch 24, I need a break from good TV. I need something where I don't have to think and I can just make fun of people the whole time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 The Real World formula: 1. Angry black character 2. Want a be musician 3. Gay or Lesbian 4. Nudist which could be same as #3 5. Person who just goes crazy on camera on purpose 6. The drunk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted April 11, 2004 The Real World formula: 1. Angry black character 2. Want a be musician 3. Gay or Lesbian 4. Nudist which could be same as #3 5. Person who just goes crazy on camera on purpose 6. The drunk Except this year is much different. No angry black guy. Jaques(or however you spell his name) is the calmest person out of the group. No gay person. No musican. This year basically has a bunch of drunks and a crazy white girl who cuts herself and cheats on her boyfriend but "always seems to forget." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
