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Guest Vitamin X

Manning did look every bit as good if not better than Warner yesterday, especially against Carolina's first string defense. I don't think he could have done much better, especially for a rookie under all that pressue.

 

Delhomme was AWESOME yesterday, especially with the improvisational bootleg TD.

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Travis Henry demanded it last week, so now it's Willis' turn.

 

Associated Press

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Running back Willis McGahee has asked the Buffalo Bills to trade him if he is not their starter on opening day, a source told The Associated Press on Friday.

 

McGahee's request was not issued as an ultimatum, but the player made clear he won't be happy playing backup to incumbent Travis Henry, said the source, who is close to McGahee and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

 

Bills spokesman Scott Berchtold said, "There is no truth to that whatsoever."

 

McGahee was not available for comment, as the Bills were off Friday in preparation for Saturday's preseason game against Tennessee. McGahee's agent Drew Rosenhaus declined comment.

 

Hey Willis, you're lucky to still HAVE a career and you haven't played one SECOND of meaningful NFL action. Shut up.

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Anyone else watch the Giants/Panthers? How funny was it that Warner got sacked on his first two plays? I laughed until I stopped.

Warner is past his prime and this proves it.

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Guest El Satanico

Actually the only thing that proved was that the Giants have a bad o-line and it gets worse as the game goes.

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Guest Smell the ratings!!!

early reports are he's done for the year.

 

so now it's Westbrook and...Westbrook.

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Reno Mahe is a sufficient 5 carry a game third back, but they will have to bring in someone.

 

On a couple better notes:

 

I am thrilled with the play of Rod Hood tonight. He was solid when he got into games last year, but tonight is making me more confident he can be a good nickel corner.

 

And Dexter Wynn and J.R. Reed have been awesome on special teams. It does not look like they will skip a beat taking Westbrook away from returning.

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The Miami Dolphins and Bears have agreed to trade involving a pair of Pro Bowl players.

 

FOXSports.com has learned that the Dolphins have agreed to a trade of holdout defensive end Adewale Ogunleye for Bears receiver Marty Booker and a third-round pick in 2005. The deal, however, is dependent upon the Bears reaching a contract agreement with Ogunleye by 7 p.m. ET Saturday. If no deal is reached then the trade would not be complete.

 

Ogunleye has been a holdout this preseason after refusing to come into camp with a restricted tender offer. He had 15 sacks for the Fins a year ago and should dramatically help the Bears pass rush, which recently flip-flopped its defensive ends to juggle things up a bit.

 

Booker had two 1,000-yard-plus seasons during the past three years and should dramatically upgrade the Dolphins passing attack, an attack which recently lost David Boston to a knee injury.

 

FOXSPORTS.com

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Guest Smell the ratings!!!

so much for that high powered offense.

 

but it's hard to complain about this trade because the Bear's pass rush is so utterly crap. Unless they give him a retarded contract, of course.

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Guest Vitamin X

Well how else do you think they got him?

 

He'll be about as good for the Bears as Joe Johnson was for the Packers.

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Gah, methinks the Pats' first team will be running some laps come next practice. Horrid first quarter from both the offense (7 total yards) and defense (170 yards surrendered, 14-0 Cincy). And Cincy starts the 2nd with another TD. Yikes.

 

Oh well, if you're gonna suck, might as well do it when it's meaningless and you can work on it.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

The Bears will never keep a good young receiver. Ever.

 

I DO agree with bolstering their defensive line, though. That gives Urlacher more of a chance to roam free and make plays, rather than be another body to fill holes on the DL.

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Guest Smell the ratings!!!

Marty Booker

Dez White

Marcus Robinson

 

is now

 

Justin Gage

Bobby Wade

uh...maybe they drafted somebody I can't remember?

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Marty Booker

Dez White

Marcus Robinson

 

is now

 

Justin Gage

Bobby Wade

uh...maybe they drafted somebody I can't remember?

 

Isn't David Terrell involved in there somewhere?

 

I'm not shocked by this deal since this IS a Lovie Smith team and he's defensive minded. This just puts all the pressure on Terrell to perform since he'll now be the main target of Rex Grossman.

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Guest Vitamin X

Whatever happened to Marcus Robinson? Did he start sucking sometime ago and I just didn't notice it?

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Guest El Satanico

Marcus Robinson's biggest problem was that he never seemed to stay healthy. That's probably the main reason Chicago let him go.

 

Last year he had a good season in Baltimore and will now get a chance to resurrect his career in Minnesota.

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The Skins btw, laid a nice smackdown on the Dolphins. Held them to 20yds rushing, and under 100 yds total offense. Yeah, their offense is horrid, I know.....but the Skins offense moved smoothly against the Dolphins starting D which is no joke.....ahh preseason is a bitch.......

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Guest Vitamin X

In other news...

 

Packers: McKenzie might be considering end to holdout

by Fanball Staff - Fanball.com

Monday, August 23, 2004

 

News

We're in day 25 of the Mike McKenzie training camp holdout and there are reports the Packers' disgruntled cornerback might be considering reporting. Two sources informed the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that there are indications McKenzie could be ready to put an end to the holdout. One told the paper McKenzie recently stopped training in Memphis and might be getting ready to go to Wisconsin. Another said McKenzie had discussed the possibility of reporting with friends but was unsure of his sincerity.

 

Views

Looks like they're grasping at anything for positive McKenzie news in Titletown. That being said, McKenzie is due to start collecting his paycheck now that he's missed all the two-a-days and the season is right around the corner.

 

It's about fucking time, though time will tell if this is maybe too late for him. It's really quite silly to demand a new contract when he's in year 3 of a 5-year deal, he should have waited at LEAST until the end of this upcoming season, you know, to really prove his worth as a defensive back in this league.

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Guest Vitamin X

Hey, as long as we get um....

 

 

(tries to think of a good player on the Saints defense)

 

 

........?

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The Chargers are going to finally sign Philip Rivers.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=1866077

 

Rivers will sign a six-year contract and ESPN.com has confirmed that the base value is about $41 million, with roughly $18 million-$19 million in guaranteed money. There is an additional $11 million in fairly makable incentives.

 

The contract will be officially executed Tuesday, when Rivers is expected to practice for the first time since minicamps.

I say it is about time. River's agent was trying to hold out for more money and was able to manipulate the media in his favor. When the actual facts came out a week ago, the media and the ESPN crowd were forced to side with the chargers. This is a fair contract for the 4th pick of the draft.

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Guest Vitamin X

That's still fairly expensive for A TEAM THAT DIDN'T EVEN NEED A QUARTERBACK.

 

Fucking morons. They should have taken Fitzgerald.

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Guest El Satanico

Drew Brees is a servicable QB, but that's about it. I wouldn't say he qualifies as the team not needing a QB. Drew Brees wasn't going to be their answer, so at least they realized it when they were in a position to take one of the top QBs.

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Guest Vitamin X

Brees is good enough, especially if, you know, he had anyone to throw to or if Schottenheimer ran an offense that utilized the forward pass.

 

That's another thing. Why take a QB is your offense is run-first, pass-second not just by nature but also by design? One of the worst trends in the NFL today is seeing teams pick quarterbacks when they don't really need them, but feel that by picking one all of a sudden all their problems will go away. The Giants didn't need one either, they had one who led them to the Super Bowl in Kerry Collins, yet they felt Eli Manning was an upgrade for the future. Never mind all of the glaring holes on defense or that they don't have anyone that strikes fear into a defense besides Shockey and to an extent, Amani Toomer. Eli Manning is the savior of the franchise!

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