2GOLD Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 You know what this means??? WILLOW THE WISP IS COMING TO THE WWE! God help us all.
ChrisMWaters Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 The Bashams might be a little too small to renact Demolition IMO. Eeh...not REALLY. They could get by it. Here's a list of the Demolition stats, according to Obsessed With Wrestling: Ax (Bill Eadie): 6'3" 291 lbs. Smash (Barry Darsow): 6'2" 292 lbs. Didn't include the First Ax, also Moondog Rex...because he wasn't there long...or for that matter Crush, since he was only at the end of Demolition. Anyway...now The Bashams. Doug Basham: 6'2", 245 lbs. Danny Basham: 6'3", 250 lbs. So all that's missing from the Bashams is the bulk that the original Demolition had...otherwise, they could fit the roles.
Guest Ram Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 I won't be happy until the Dungeon of Doom is brought back. Booker Shango would fit in, you could give the Basham's a gimmick, and rehire Meng!
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 With most of their major stars gone and no other place to sign away new stars, WWE is now in the middle of going with a new plan for the future. They have moved most of their stars, marketable talent, and quality athletes to RAW, and hope to create extreme gimmicks on Smackdown. The plan is to take average wrestlers and stick them with gimmicks that hopefully turn them into stars (ala The Undertaker). WWE is fully aware that they do not have many young guys left who can turn into the next Kurt Angle or Brock Lesnar, so now they are trying to make up for that. Vince McMahon also has always loved creating extreme gimmicks since it shows that he has more to do with making a star than the actual wrestler. Rene Dupree (with his dog), Mordecai, "The New Millenium Narcicist" Mark Jindrak, the new John Bradshaw Layfield, and the dropped Hirohito, as well as additions to established gimmicks like Booker T's voodoo pouch, are examples of this new direction. Credit: Torch Newsletter Oh man. This could be a nominee for "Stupidest Fucking Idea Ever". I really do think SD is becoming WCW. Maybe the Maestro will get signed. Or Glacier... Other than Booker T, none of the changes have been bad. Dupree's been improving actually.
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 I won't be happy until the Dungeon of Doom is brought back. Booker Shango would fit in, you could give the Basham's a gimmick, and rehire Meng! Chris Benoit could use his pull to get Kevin Sullivan a managerial position for stealing his wife.
Downhome Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 Oh yes, the perfect time for an Ultimate Warrior comeback.
Guest Daddy X Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 Like someone said before... If they want to go goofy... they have to go ALL OUT. And I really do mean that. I'm talking incredible lame and whacky much like the DDT promotion in Japan. If they half-ass the goofiness it will just be a bad show.
Guest Daddy X Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 But seriously though I would rather see Paul London with a defined gimmick. It would be a good way to get some of these more generic guys on TV and make the casual viewer actually care about them. I'm all for that. However, taking a horrible wrestler, slapping a gimmick on them, and pushing them to the moon isn't always the best idea. So while it may help some guys, us fans may have to deal with the bad also.
Jobber of the Week Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 Everyone thought Rico would be helped with a defined gimmick, too, until everyone saw what his defined gimmick is. Of course, the problem with that one isn't so much Rico or even the gimmick as it does with Vince McMahon's minority opinion on gay acceptance. You'd think the guy who's had Pat Patterson employed for years would know that not every one of 'em is a poofer.
Jobber of the Week Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 Oh yes, the perfect time for an Ultimate Warrior comeback. Actually, I was thinking that this could only end in La Parka.
Guest Anglesault Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 So all that's missing from the Bashams is the bulk that the original Demolition had...otherwise, they could fit the roles. Demolition was hideously boring?
Guest Anglesault Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 So all that's missing from the Bashams is the bulk that the original Demolition had...otherwise, they could fit the roles. Demolition was hideously boring?
ChrisMWaters Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 So all that's missing from the Bashams is the bulk that the original Demolition had...otherwise, they could fit the roles. Demolition was hideously boring? Take away their gimmick...and their movesets were basically pound away at the person as much as you can. At least that's what I've seen from their WrestleMania appearences and Royal Rumble appearances. And AS...your bashing the Bashams is getting just as repetitive and boring as your repetitiveness and boringness of John Cena's "You can't see me" catchphrase.
Guest Anglesault Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 And AS...your bashing the Bashams is getting just as repetitive and boring as your repetitiveness and boringness of John Cena's "You can't see me" catchphrase. "You Can't See Me": Stupid catchphrase that makes no sense at all. The Bashams: Worst tag team I've ever seen. Things that deserve to be bashed.
ChrisMWaters Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 The Bashams: Worst tag team I've ever seen. Nathan Jones and Matt Morgan.
razazteca Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 Danny Bashem = Road Warrior Droz Doug Bashem = Demolition Crush are Weapons of Mass Destruction WMD
Guest Anglesault Posted May 19, 2004 Report Posted May 19, 2004 The Bashams: Worst tag team I've ever seen. Nathan Jones and Matt Morgan. Did they ever team together on TV outside of huge Brock's Stable of Fat matches?
Scroby Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 Did they ever team together on TV outside of huge Brock's Stable of Fat matches? As far as I can remember, no. I think even after the stable was over Jones and Matt were never used again, granted Jones quit.
Guest GiZ Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 Not a bad move by the WWE, obviously an extreme gimmick can be either hit or miss. Why is everyone quick to jump on the bangwagon of "oh this sucks, smackdown will be worse"? I'm actually looking forward to the characters that the WWE can come up with! should be some good ones. Eugene has proven to be entertaining and i doubt Nick dismore would have got a chance if he didn't have the extreme gimmick. I'd rather watch colourful gimmicks, then 10 vanila benoits anyday!
Guest Anglesault Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 Did they ever team together on TV outside of huge Brock's Stable of Fat matches? As far as I can remember, no. I think even after the stable was over Jones and Matt were never used again, granted Jones quit. And Holly showed what a tough guy he was by beating up Morgan and hurting him. Anyway, my point was that they never had a straight two on two tag match that I can recall.
CanadianChick Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 Meh, this might not be too bad, except for Booker T, as he is semi-successful with his current. Everyone else though, what do they have to lose? Smackdown can hardly get worse.
JHawk Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 If Anglesault thinks The Basham Brothers are the worse tag team he ever saw, then he didn't watch the AWA's tag team division in their dying days. Try watching John Nord and Scott Norton as lumberjacks in 12 minute matches every week and tell me the Bashams suck. I dare you.
Kizzo Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 Who the fuck put Vince Russo back on booking and how long has it been kept a secret? Its like Early 90's WWF all over again. Wrong...Vinnie Ru didn't start writng for WWF/E until late 1996 or early 97...
Guest wrestlingbs Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 I think arguing that these extreme gimmicks have helped certain wrestlers is beside the point. Sure, Cena is better off being a rapper, and Bradshaw a tycoon, and even Dupree a obnoxious frenchman. But while the gimmicks gain interest, do they really help in the long term? Cena does the same "rap" promo every night, and his moveset has actually gotten worse. Bradhaw riding a limo is still the same Bradshaw who uses a clothsline as a finisher. And Dupree had to wait years before given the chance because his French gimmick got off to a horriblr start. If they don't help bring in PPV buys or sell tickets, it isn't worth it.
Scroby Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 QUOTE (Scroby @ May 19 2004, 01:49 AM) Who the fuck put Vince Russo back on booking and how long has it been kept a secret? Its like Early 90's WWF all over again. Wrong...Vinnie Ru didn't start writng for WWF/E until late 1996 or early 97... Actually I ment that as two seperate things.
nl5xsk1 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 If Anglesault thinks The Basham Brothers are the worse tag team he ever saw, then he didn't watch the AWA's tag team division in their dying days. Try watching John Nord and Scott Norton as lumberjacks in 12 minute matches every week and tell me the Bashams suck. I dare you. Brad Reingans/Ken Patera as the "Olympians" ... nothing more needs to be said.
King Cucaracha Posted May 20, 2004 Report Posted May 20, 2004 AS- He Can See You. Somebody needs to take a sign to Smackdown with that on.
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