Guest MikeSC Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 Drunken police raid US students LUKE MORFESSE - CRIME REPORTER A group of drunken off-duty police officers forced American students to kneel on the ground at their Fremantle dormitory while taunting and humiliating them about the United States involvement in Iraq. The incident is one of several being investigated by police internal affairs after a wild night in two of the port city's popular night spots involving seven WA police and two NSW officers. Some of the worst behaviour was inflicted on patrons at the Orient Hotel, where one of the officers vomited across the bar after the drunken group was refused service. Witnesses said a German barman was abused and insulted with nazi salutes. Earlier, the men told drinkers they were "above the law" because they were police. The West Australian was told some drinkers at the Orient Hotel last Tuesday were Notre Dame University students but the abuse of the US students erupted after a fight at the Zanzibar nightclub. During that incident, one of the seven WA officers, who are all from the Fremantle district, was allegedly assaulted by one of the American Notre Dame students and had a tooth knocked out. Enraged, some of the drunken officers tracked the American down to the university's student accommodation. It was there that several American students, including some who had nothing to do with the clash at the Zanzibar, were made to kneel on the ground and were humiliated. It is understood the taunting included comments such as "Yankies go home", "What are you doing in our country" and "What are you doing in Iraq". Frightened students called the police. Several students approached by The West Australian yesterday declined to comment. The university's acting vice-chancellor, Professor Peter Dallimore, said he would not comment because a student had been charged and the matter was still under investigation. Because the incident involved Americans it is understood the university informed the US Consul in Perth. Police Minister Michelle Roberts said she was appalled by what she had been told about the incident. "I wouldn't have thought that any police officers would engage in this kind of behaviour, on duty or off duty," she said. "The fact of the matter is that police officers . . . need to set an example to the community." Assistant Commissioner Tim Atherton said the public had high expectations of police and he had instructed a superintendent and an inspector to investigate the matter. Mr Atherton pledged to get to the bottom of any misconduct by police. "The Commissioner and I share a great deal of frustration about this incident," he said. http://www.thewest.com.au/20040529/news/ge...-sto125735.html Hopefully, SOME people will now recognize that people CAN act in ways that are completely contrary to their rules and that it does not mean that the gov't condones the actions. -=Mike
muzz Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 ... Damn. We like our drink maybe a little too much.
Guest Crazy Dan Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 Robin Williams said it best "The third rule of alcohol, is to bring out the Ass-Hole in all of us".
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 Fucking blind patriot copper cunts probably wouldn't have a fucking clue of what's actually happening in Iraq.
Guest TJH Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 That is most certainly fucked up, and as an Aussie I can only apologise. Still, Fremantle has always been a dump, and West Australians spend most of their life down at the beach, so their brains are generally cooked. There has been remarkably little coverage of this in my state.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 That is most certainly fucked up, and as an Aussie I can only apologise. Just because my (USA) country is made up of a bunch of pussies doesn't mean my second-favorite continent has to be, too. Don't apologize for something you didn't do. There has been remarkably little coverage of this in my state. Has the Abu scandal gotten a lot of coverage Down Under?...
Guest Anglesault Posted May 29, 2004 Report Posted May 29, 2004 That is most certainly fucked up, and as an Aussie I can only apologise. No need to. You shouldn't take blame for something others have done.
tommytomlin Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 Has the Abu scandal gotten a lot of coverage Down Under?... Lots!
Guest netslob Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 gee, cops who abuse their power...YA DON'T SAY!! and in other news: water is wet and dirt is messy.
Internet Warfare Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 gee, cops who abuse their power...YA DON'T SAY!! and in other news: water is wet and dirt is messy. seriously. Thats fucked up.
Guest I Got Banned for Sucking Posted May 30, 2004 Report Posted May 30, 2004 That is most certainly fucked up, and as an Aussie I can only apologise. Still, Fremantle has always been a dump, and West Australians spend most of their life down at the beach, so their brains are generally cooked. There has been remarkably little coverage of this in my state. Just so you all know, apologizing was what I was doing in my post.
Guest MikeSC Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Just so you all know, apologizing was what I was doing in my post. I didn't post it to search out apologies. I posted it to show that you can have men in uniform, "representing" a government, who do things completely contrary to their country's values. It happens A LOT and I could likely find other stories of similar actions. Australians are not, from all I know of them, terribly violent or mean people. There were some jack-ass cops that crossed the line. I posted it to remind people that events, like Abu Gharib, can in fact be done by people and the gov't doesn't actually support their actions. -=Mike
Guest TheAustralian Posted June 1, 2004 Report Posted June 1, 2004 Mike as I explained in a previous thread, things like this happen when ever you give "stupid people" power, the problem with the US soldiers and Australian police, it that often these people are not the smartest people in the world, they take what little power they have to seriously. this kind of stuff can be found in every country in the world,
Guest MikeSC Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Mike as I explained in a previous thread, things like this happen when ever you give "stupid people" power, the problem with the US soldiers and Australian police, it that often these people are not the smartest people in the world, they take what little power they have to seriously. this kind of stuff can be found in every country in the world, True. 100% true. BUT, some people do wish to claim that the guards at Abu Gharib basically simply followed the example set by Bush --- not that they were a group of apes led by an inept commander. -=Mike
Guest INXS Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Another attempt to equate abuse by other people in power to what the US forces did in Iraq. Sure, these guys abused their positions but doesn't even start to compare to the abuse that the Iraqi's suffered at the hands of US soldiers. I can't imagine that there wasn't a mentality of "let's teach these sand niggers a lesson for 911!" in the US army from the very top right down to the lowly backward private.
Guest MikeSC Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Another attempt to equate abuse by other people in power to what the US forces did in Iraq. Sure, these guys abused their positions but doesn't even start to compare to the abuse that the Iraqi's suffered at the hands of US soldiers. I can't imagine that there wasn't a mentality of "let's teach these sand niggers a lesson for 911!" in the US army from the very top right down to the lowly backward private. You better imagine it, because that is the case. It was a small group of apes who did bad. They are also being punished rather harshly right now. This story simply indicates that the actions of a few doesn't have correlation with the whole. Are Australian police all pricks? Nope --- these few were, and a few others might be --- but overall, they're probably fine. -=Mike
Guest MikeSC Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 Were the apes sub-human?... Damned near. But, they only humiliated people who wanted to kill them. -=Mike
Styles Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 "let's teach these sand niggers a lesson for 911!" OMG ban plz?
Jobber of the Week Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 Another attempt to equate abuse by other people in power to what the US forces did in Iraq. Sure, these guys abused their positions but doesn't even start to compare to the abuse that the Iraqi's suffered at the hands of US soldiers. Problem is what you're saying is that sure, while what these guys did was bad, that doesn't mean what happened at the prison was all right. Conversely, I can say that although what happened at the prison what bad, that doesn't make this situation any less serious, either.
Guest INXS Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 "let's teach these sand niggers a lesson for 911!" OMG ban plz? I didn't mean it as a racial slur! You have to take the comment in the context in which it was written!
Styles Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 KONTEXT-AWAY wins again! SARCASM AWAY wins again. Man, the left really does have no sense of humor...
Slayer Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 "let's teach these sand niggers a lesson for 911!" OMG ban plz? I didn't mean it as a racial slur! You have to take the comment in the context in which it was written! Ghettoman Jr.?
Jobber of the Week Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 SARCASM AWAY wins again. Man, the left really does have no sense of humor... KONTEXT-AWAY is a joke, fella.
kkktookmybabyaway Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 It does -- you just have to build up your rep., though...
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