Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 For even more shits and giggles, my current MMA rankings: HW: 1) Fedor Emlianenko 2) Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera 3) Josh Barnett 4) Andrei Arlovski 5) Frank Mir 6) Mirko Filipovic 7) Tim Sylvia 8) Pedro Rizzo 9) Sergei Kharitonov 10) Ricco Rodiguez LHW: 1) Wanderlei Silva 2) Randy Couture 3) Quinton Jackson 4) Chuck Liddell 5) Ricardo Arona 6) Dan Henderson 7) Renato Sobral 8) Vitor Belfort 9) Yuki Kondo 10) Tito Ortiz Middleweight: 1) Matt Lindland 2) Jeremy Horn 3) Ricardo Almeida 4) Paulo Filho 5) Masanori Suda 6) Evan Tanner 7) Amar Suloev 8) Joe Doerksen 9) Akihiro Gono 10) Kazuo Misaki Welterweight: 1) BJ Penn 2) Matt Hughes 3) Sean Sherk 4) Jason Black 5) Renato Verissimo 6) Frank Trigg 7) John Alessio 8) Georges St. Pierre 9) Nick Diaz 10) Jake Shields LW: 1) Vitor Ribeiro 2) Joachim Hansen 3) Tatsuya Kawajiri 4) Takanori Gomi 5) Marcus Aurello 6) Josh Thompson 7) Yves Edwards 8) Hermes Franca 9) Caol Uno 10) Genki Sudo Featherweight: 1) Alexandre Franca Noguiera 2) Norifumi Yamamoto 3) Joao Roque 4) Hiroyuki Takaya 5) Jens Pulver 6) Hideki Kadowaki 7) Ivan Menjivar 8) Jeff Curran 9) Naoya Uematsu 10) Yoshiro Maeda Not listed due to me not knowing their current weight and/or status: Murilo Bustamante, Rodrigo Gracie, Anderson Silva, Duane Ludwig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 I don't know why people are so high on Josh Barnett. He has a lot of skills but I think he's unproven since he has rarely beaten top guys. You know the LHW is stacked when Tito Ortiz is at number ten, though I wouldn't place Renato Sobral above him. I'm surprised to see that Heath didn't crack your top ten, there are a few guys on there I'd have dropped down to put him in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 I don't know why people are so high on Josh Barnett. He has a lot of skills but I think he's unproven since he has rarely beaten top guys. You know the LHW is stacked when Tito Ortiz is at number ten, though I wouldn't place Renato Sobral above him. I'm surprised to see that Heath didn't crack your top ten, there are a few guys on there I'd have dropped down to put him in. - Well, unlike most every other HW around, it's been a great while since Josh has lost a fight. He's struggled with lesser opponents as of late, but he still does have a good resume (though many of his opponent's stock have dropped since his wins over them sans Kondo). - Well, Tito hasn't had a really meaningful win since he defeated the Vladimir nearly 3 years ago. The Ken fight doesn't mean much in hindsight, even with Shamrock's recent Ko over Kimo. As far as Sobral, I think he's deserving of his ranking due to his winning of the IFC's Global Domination tournament, which was EXTREMELY stacked, far beyond most 2nd tier promotion tournment standards. Almost every fighter involved was/is a hot commodity, and Sobral was able to defeat Trevor Prangley, Muaricio "Shogun" Rua and Jeremy Horn in a single night. - Well, I suppose part of it is that I've never really been big on Heath. His best win as of late was a close decision over Gan McGee, which waspreceded by a tough fight vs. Norihisa Yamamoto and the joke match with Giant Silva. He jsut hasn't done enough lately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 -As far as Sobral, I think he's deserving of his ranking due to his winning of the IFC's Global Domination tournament, which was EXTREMELY stacked, far beyond most 2nd tier promotion tournment standards. Almost every fighter involved was/is a hot commodity, and Sobral was able to defeat Trevor Prangley, Muaricio "Shogun" Rua and Jeremy Horn in a single night. That was a stacked card, and it would have been even more stacked if Paulo Filho hadn't have pulled out prior to it with an injury. I still can't see Ortiz at no. 10. I would still have him above Kondo, because even though their match was a couple years ago, neither fighter has, IMO, improved or deteriorated, which is why I'd have Ortiz above him still. That would be unlike Belfort/Silva, Ortiz/Silva, where Silva has drastically improved to the point where even if he lost to them before, he would still be ranked ahead of them. Anyway, that makes sense to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 Actually, Kondo HAS improved quite a bit since that time. He's no longer simply a striker to be held on the mat, as he's shown vs. Barnett, Sperry and Kikuta, he can regain his feet and bring the pain. Also, he's been much more active, which also gives him the edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2004 Updated UFC Ratings: HW Champion: Frank Mir LHW Champion: Vitor Belfort MW Champion: Vacant WW Champion: Vacant LW Champion: Vacant Top Contenders (p4p): 1. Matt Hughes 2. Yves Edwards 3. Chuck Liddell 4. Matt Lindland 5. Evan Tanner 6. Andrei Arlovski 7. B.J. Penn 8. Matt Serra 9. Tim Sylvia 10. Nick Diaz 11. Josh Thomson 12. Georges St. Pierre 13. Randy Couture 14. Rich Franklin 15. Ricco Rodriguez 16. Robbie Lawler 17. Vladimir Matyushenko 18. Hermes Franca 19. Pedro Rizzo 20. Caol Uno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LooseCannon25 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2004 Updated UFC Ratings: HW Champion: Frank Mir LHW Champion: Vitor Belfort MW Champion: Vacant WW Champion: Vacant LW Champion: Vacant Top Contenders (p4p): 1. Matt Hughes 2. Yves Edwards 3. Chuck Liddell 4. Matt Lindland 5. Evan Tanner 6. Andrei Arlovski 7. B.J. Penn 8. Matt Serra 9. Tim Sylvia 10. Nick Diaz 11. Josh Thomson 12. Georges St. Pierre 13. Randy Couture 14. Rich Franklin 15. Ricco Rodriguez 16. Robbie Lawler 17. Vladimir Matyushenko 18. Hermes Franca 19. Pedro Rizzo 20. Caol Uno Randy Couture ranked #13 is ridiculous to me. To me P4P he's at LEAST a top 5 guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
