Guest MikeSC Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 MTV killed Buddy Holly? They were WELL-planned. -=Mike 1) Kill Buddy Holly 2) Unleash the Grateful Dead 3) MTV
razazteca Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 What exactly will be on the channel, Xena, Ellen, Will & Grace, WNBA......... Melissa Ethredge, Indigo Girls, 80's New Wave, Hair Metal videos?
The Czech Republic Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Someone brought up a good point. MTV can't even do MTV right, how can it do a gay channel correctly? My biggest fear is that since this is a Viacom network, WWE programming will get moved to it.
Jobber of the Week Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 2) Unleash the Grateful Dead Give 'em credit for one thing: The Wall Of Sound (the giant collection of speakers, I mean. Not the album/label/whatever)
Lil' Bitch Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 MTV killed Buddy Holly? Nah, they just make him roll over in his grave. Kinda like how MTV hasn't shown a video in ten years...... They still do, just at ungodly hours or having some stupid ass girl in the corner going "HI, CARSON!"
AndrewTS Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 What exactly will be on the channel, Xena, Ellen, Will & Grace, WNBA......... Melissa Ethredge, Indigo Girls, 80's New Wave, Hair Metal videos? Hair metal isn't gay. A lot of it is pretty freakin' terrible, though. Also, MTV didn't kill music. Pure evil like them will never win. True rock and true metal live on in the rest of the world and in the States, even if MTV wants to ignore it. I wouldn't be surprised if they try to syndicate Queer Eye and Queer As Folk, though. Thing is, how does one market specifically to gays without becoming overly insulting? I expect them to do a sitcom that is a blatant ripoff of All in the Family, but instead of Lionel being simply black, he's a walking gay stereotype as well, and does it just for kicks to get the homophobe neighbor freaked out.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I thought we already had the Oxygen channel for this...
AndrewTS Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 "Kinda like how MTV hasn't shown a video in ten years...... " VH1's a little better, but most of their programming is a bunch of list of X types of videos/songs/moments. I Love the 90's?! That's your big upcoming TV event right now?!
razazteca Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Between all of the womens channels like Oxygen, WE, Lifetime, Hallmark, Fashion Network, I think all of the gay material is covered.
Guest JMA Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Let's look at the pros and cons of this idea, shall we? PRO It pisses off wack-jobs who regularly use the words "gay agenda." CON ...everything else. Seriously, why create an entire network devoted to sexual preference? Isn't that just pandering?
razazteca Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 CON It will one of those manidatory cable channels that nobody watches just like CSPAN.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 "Kinda like how MTV hasn't shown a video in ten years...... " VH1's a little better, but most of their programming is a bunch of list of X types of videos/songs/moments. I Love the 90's?! That's your big upcoming TV event right now?! actually...save for Insomiac Music Theatre...they don't show ANY music and even the head of VH1 said they were phasing music out and becoming a Pop Culture based network ala E!. Well...I love 80's (part one and two) and 70's were big hits...and I still think I love the 80's:Return of the 80's should go before I love the 90's. I love "The best week...ever" and they should do that theme for every year since like 1918 and show what the world was like for each year.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Let's look at the pros and cons of this idea, shall we? PRO It pisses off wack-jobs who regularly use the words "gay agenda." CON ...everything else. Seriously, why create an entire network devoted to sexual preference? Isn't that just pandering? kinda like SPIKETV does with the "Straight Male" market by airing Wrestling, Sports and Car themed shows?
AndrewTS Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 actually...save for Insomiac Music Theatre...they don't show ANY music and even the head of VH1 said they were phasing music out and becoming a Pop Culture based network ala E!. Ah, **** that.
Guest Salacious Crumb Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 So is this network going to pull an Ellen and blame it's failure on homophobes?
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 true but Jericho is in talks of getting his own tv show on VH1 though...so it balances out.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Just Jericho rambling about Pop Culture and Heavy Metal glam rock era.
Guest Vitamin X Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 That could actually be pretty damn cool.
haVoc Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 That sounds really good. Let Jericho have a weekly show where he interviews old rock/metal glam guys and discuss current pop culture. Jericho and Sebastian Bach together would be pretty entertaining.
Guest Choken One Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 Bach had his own midnight tv show once on VH1 where he met with various 80's glam stars like Nikii Sixx or Vince Neil and they just hung out at random places like a bar or a racetrack or shit like that.
AndrewTS Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 VH1 used to have "The Rock Show" where they'd actually show a bunch of heavy metal videos, old and new. I always kinda thought Edge (WWE) was a Bach wannabe.
Guest Crazy Dan Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 I thought there already was a gay network, Bravo. Oh, my bad. Seriously, I have no problems with this. I won't watch, but more power to ya for putting this "Gay" Network. I just hope there is some thought put into this, and that this Gay network can show not just the stereotypes of homosexuals. But already I hear the protests from the religious right beginning to be shout out how this will convert all the straight kids to gay.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 MTV killed Johny Cash. He deserved the respect of having Best video. It was the best video I've seen in a long time. He lost to Missy Elliot, for goodness sake! Missy Elliot! Do you HONESTLY think MTVs core audience knows who Cash is? They still ask why all those old people butchered those great Puff Daddy and Eminem songs.
MarvinisaLunatic Posted June 6, 2004 Report Posted June 6, 2004 Let's look at the pros and cons of this idea, shall we? PRO It pisses off wack-jobs who regularly use the words "gay agenda." CON ...everything else. Seriously, why create an entire network devoted to sexual preference? Isn't that just pandering? kinda like SPIKETV does with the "Straight Male" market by airing Wrestling, Sports and Car themed shows? Viacom owns MTV as well as SpikeTV, so they'll own LOGO too. Viacom Channels Viacom caters to just about every crowd: MTV: Music Television - braindead teenagers MTV2 - not quite braindead Nickelodeon - kids BET (Black Entertainment Television)- African-Americans Nick at Nite - people who like somewhat classic tv TV Land - old folks NOGGIN - Preschoolers..?? THE N (NOGGIN at night) - teens VH1 - "The music network for 25- to 44-year-olds" Spike TV - men CMT - rednecks Comedy Central - uh..people with a sense of humor Showtime/The Movie Channel/Flix - movie fans Sundance Channel - "For the independent film lover" LOGO - Gay/Lesbian crowd..
Karnage Posted June 7, 2004 Report Posted June 7, 2004 There's already a gay television channel called PrideVision I think.
Guest Goodear Posted June 7, 2004 Report Posted June 7, 2004 Concerned Women for America -- which has boycotted Disney for its pro-gay policies -- said it would publicize LOGO advertisers. "They should not promote homosexuality," said Robert Knight, a leader of the right-leaning group. I'm so confused...
Styles Posted June 8, 2004 Report Posted June 8, 2004 Concerned Women for America -- which has boycotted Disney for its pro-gay policies -- said it would publicize LOGO advertisers. "They should not promote homosexuality," said Robert Knight, a leader of the right-leaning group. I'm so confused... Apparently so is he, which is quite ironic considering the subject Anyway, doesn't Bravo already serve this niche? And I'm serious too...
Guest El Satanico Posted June 8, 2004 Report Posted June 8, 2004 Since when was Bravo a "gay" network? Being the home of Queer Eye for The Straight Man makes it a "gay" network? That's just absurd.
Guest Choken One Posted June 8, 2004 Report Posted June 8, 2004 they also air Broadway musicals as well...
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