Guest Nanks Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I want to know what it is he does that warrants the employment of a Personal Assistant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 A lot of valid points. I guess once you know enough about the business, it sticks with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I miss Jake. Good points, but I doubt Vince will bother reading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanhalen 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I went to see Jake the snake wrestle for wZw in Carlisle, England two months ago, and he is looking really good at the minute, he actually had a pretty good match with Phil Powers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I bet if a young Jake Roberts debuted today fans and the 'net would hate him. Skinny, bad look, works slow, never runs, has a pet snake. He'd get pissed, shit and spit on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I bet if a young Jake Roberts debuted today fans and the 'net would hate him. Skinny, bad look, works slow, never runs, has a pet snake. He'd get pissed, shit and spit on. He is a good interview. His "trust me" catchphrase was beyond compare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Maybe Jake doesn't like Jericho's strong born again beliefs. Doubtful. If that were the case he would dislike Eddie as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I remember a Jake interview back a couple years when he said Jericho didn't protect his opposition's character enough. I think it was around the time when everyone and their mother was stealing each other's finishers in matches, late 2001 I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I think he's saying things that make sense, but he is possibly the most incoherent person ever. I think you're forgetting about someone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I think he's saying things that make sense, but he is possibly the most incoherent person ever. I think you're forgetting about someone... Come on, there are others. Savage, Sid, the current Piper anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodSpikeJenkins 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 I remember a Jake interview back a couple years when he said Jericho didn't protect his opposition's character enough. I think it was around the time when everyone and their mother was stealing each other's finishers in matches, late 2001 I think. He said that Jericho should not be lifting Rhyno around and suplexing him and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted June 5, 2004 Maybe Jake doesn't like Jericho's strong born again beliefs. Doubtful. If that were the case he would dislike Eddie as well. He was kidding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Champ Report post Posted June 6, 2004 HIRE THIS MAN AND PUT HIM AS THE HEAD OF CREATIVE, HE IS MAKING MORE SENSE THEN THE CURRENT WWE CREATIVE. I would put him in charge of creative in the Smackdown brand, since the brand is lacking in direction. It would be a breath of fresh air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 6, 2004 wow wow wow. turn the caps OFF. Let's put a crackhead in charge of Smackdown? Gee that's a great idea! Then let's get Charles Manson to do the Entrance Music and Ted Bundy to design sets. Jake's a fool who burnt every bridge possible...twice. He doesn't deserve another chance. There are some good thoughts in there but nothing that hasn't been said by dozens of other internet writers and in much clearer language too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 6, 2004 I bet if a young Jake Roberts debuted today fans and the 'net would hate him. Skinny, bad look, works slow, never runs, has a pet snake. He'd get pissed, shit and spit on. Jake excelled at working crowds with his face and heel antics, so I don't doubt him being able to get over these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Let's put a crackhead in charge of Smackdown? Gee that's a great idea! Then let's get Charles Manson to do the Entrance Music and Ted Bundy to design sets. whoa, how does a man who has a crack addiction, which doesn't hurt anyone but himself, somehow equate with a man who kills people? i can't seem to follow that logic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 6, 2004 whoa, how does a man who has a crack addiction, which doesn't hurt anyone but himself, somehow equate with a man who kills people? i can't seem to follow that logic. It doesn't, but Jake deserves no chance. His alcohol & drug abuse have time after time fucked his life over, and bringing him into the wrestling scene (big time, not Indy shows) only makes him worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Ok Didn't Jake get into some real trouble fairly recently with him and a under fed Snake he had in a bag which he smacked a wrestler wiith in England? I thought they were going to charge him with animal cruelity I didn't hear if the snake died or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 6, 2004 I thought they were going to charge him with animal cruelity I didn't hear if the snake died or not. I believe they found the snake dead from, of course, starvation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Are you asking the British police to use their brains? For shame! Just kidding. I thought they found it dead, but I guess this changes my opinion on Roberts. Instead of a Snake killing bastard he's just a bastard to the human race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted June 6, 2004 whoa, how does a man who has a crack addiction, which doesn't hurt anyone but himself, somehow equate with a man who kills people? i can't seem to follow that logic. they're all criminals. And doesn't hurt anyone else? Bull fucking shit man. Tell that to his family and friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheex Incarnate 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2004 Torrie - I won't pose in Playboy... And thats the saddest thing of all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted June 6, 2004 whoa, how does a man who has a crack addiction, which doesn't hurt anyone but himself, somehow equate with a man who kills people? i can't seem to follow that logic. they're all criminals. And doesn't hurt anyone else? Bull fucking shit man. Tell that to his family and friends. i meant physically...it doesn't hurt anyone else physically. the only one affected physically is Jake himself. yeah, emotionally, it hurts his friends and family. but, that's HIS choice, no one elses. that's what i meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest INXS Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Where was this posted? I used to read his old web commentaries on RAW and Thunder and this doesn't appear to be his style of writing at all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I've been watching all the heralded WWF matches from 2001 over the past few days in preparation for something I'm about to start writing for TSM on a semi-regular basis. It changed my opinion of Jericho in some ways. The guy is underrated in many aspects and overrated in many others. There are things he does that he should get chastised for and there are things that he does that no one notices that he does better than almost anyone. Jericho is one of the worst offenders of the 'let me get this in and this in' line of thinking when planning out a match. He's no worse than Benoit in this regard, who suplexed Rikishi around like it was child's play, but just because others are doing it doesn't make it excusable. Both as a face and as a heel, Jericho is on offense more than he's fighting from underneath. I was very impressed, at No Mercy and at Vengeance, by how much both Rock and Austin 'gave' him in terms of openings and how much he controlled the match and called spots. Jericho typically is allowed to look outstanding and like a world beater throughout the course of the matches, but the booking is what keeps him the underdog, as he's never been given the push he really deserves. There have been far better workers who have done a great job of fighting from underneath and Jericho is better at playing the cocky babyface. There are a lot of parallels to Jericho and Michaels as workers, in terms of offense and keeping the match spotlight on oneself. Jericho is better in some areas than Shawn is, but Shawn is far better at drawing sympathy and making his opponent look good. In Jericho's defense, the criticisms of his offense being repetitive are totally invalid, and anyone who has ever said that hasn't watched enough Jericho matches. If anything, a fault of Jericho's is that he tries to incorporate too much new offense on a regular basis, as he's constantly taking a different approach instead of finding one that works and sticking with it. In his 2001 matches, Jericho borrowed liberally from Flair, from Michaels, from Savage and even from his opponents. Jericho was an enigma in 2001, in that his best performances were better than even Austin's, but he sprinkled that ice cream with cow dung sometimes when he was out there. He was terribly inconsistent that year. That said, he had a better year than Angle, as his offense was more varied, he was a better seller, he was better at performing transitions and he was better at controlling the pace of a match. Angle didn't surpass Jericho until 2002, and then, the difference was only slight. I look forward to finally posting everything I've written on the main site, because Jericho is just one example of a worker who I looked at in a different light upon rewatching everything. I think it's worth noting, though, that of the top five matches of the year in the WWF, Jericho was involved in three of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
humongous2002 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Jake has a great if not the greatest mind for wrestling, but his personal demons are killing him little by little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
