Styles 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Some great Reagan quotes: Doesn't have the "shining city on the hill" line, which was the one I always liked. Goes to find more! • The taxpayer - that's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take a civil-service exam. • Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. • Millions of individuals making their own decisions in the marketplace will always allocate resources better than any centralized government planning process. • How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin. • If I could paraphrase a well-known statement by Will Rogers that he never met a man he didn't like - I'm afraid we have some people around here who never met a tax they didn't like. • We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them -- this morning, as they prepared for their journey, and waved good-bye, and "slipped the surly bonds of earth" to "touch the face of God. (Speech about the Challenger disaster). • Republicans believe every day is 4th of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15. • The years ahead will be great ones for our country, for the cause of freedom and the spread of civilization. The West will not contain Communism, it will transcend Communism. We will not bother to denounce it, we'll dismiss it as a sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages are even now being written. • The best social program is a productive job for anyone who's willing to work. • The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." • With our eyes fixed on the future, but recognizing the realities of today. ... we will achieve our destiny to be as a shining city on a hill for all mankind to see. • Thomas Jefferson once said, 'We should never judge a president by his age, only by his works.' And ever since he told me that I stopped worrying. • These young Americans sent a message to terrorists everywhere ... "You can run but you can't hide. (On US pilots who captured four terrorists) • The ultimate determinant in the struggle now going on for the world will not be bombs and rockets but a test of wills and ideas-a trial of spiritual resolve: the values we hold, the beliefs we cherish and the ideals to which we are dedicated. • The Soviet Union would remain a one-party nation even if an opposition party were permitted-because everyone would join that party. • No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. • I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint if necessary. • The little dictator who went to Moscow in his green fatigues to receive a bear hug did not forsake the doctrine of Lenin when he returned to the West and appeared in a two-piece suit. • The distance between the present system and our proposal is like comparing the distance between a Model T and the space shuttle. And I should know; I've seen both. • I have only one thing to say to the tax increasers. Go ahead-make my day. • Some of your countrymen were unable to distinguish between their native dislike for war and the stainless patriotism of those who suffered its scars. But there has been a rethinking [and] now we can say to you, and say as a nation, thank you for your courage. • The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away. • While I take inspiration from the past, like most Americans, I live for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Bush makes Friday, June 11th a government holiday in honor of Reagan It's for this year only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest INXS Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Reagan was a true American icon, who like all world leaders, did things that were both perceived to be good and bad, depending on your point of view. I think the fact that he took steps to disarm (at least some) of Russia and the US's nukes and to offer a hand of friendship to Russia was amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 (edited) Ah, yes, Heritage. Making Reaganomics almost make sense. Actually "Reaganomics" never existed. He wanted a supply side method, but due to the divided Congress, didn't get the cuts he wanted alongside the tax increases. It was both a supply/demand side pull and That's why the economy booomed like crazy. I don't understand how people confuse, or think that the end result "didn't work" It obviously did. Stephen Joseph Econ Dood Edited June 7, 2004 by Stephen Joseph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted June 7, 2004 You missed one Slap: "The scariest words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.'" Edited because I'm an idiot who can't read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 i caught two speeches on cspan this weekend: one by clinton promoting his new book, and reagan's '92 republican national convention speech. they were startlingly similar. very easygoing and humble, charismatic, and their attitudes were almost identically optimistic and constructive, using a lot of the same ideas with different rhetoric. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 You missed one Poppick: "The scariest words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help you.'" Que? No me compehende? Uhh, I didn't list those. And umm, I am from the government, and I'm here to help you (unless you're a taxpayer, and then I'm just taking your money to play football on the mall) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I was wondering about that post myself, Steve. And if you're REALLY here to help me, give me $10... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Joseph 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 KKK, for you I'll give you back what part of your tax money went to pay my salary Here's a 1/100th of a cent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 You'd need to use the Peso Scale, but I guess U.S. currency would work -- all I'd have to do is compund the interest daily on what I "paid" you last year to make what you owe me payable in U.S. coin... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Most of the Reagan Idolatry is just political hyperbole from the right. Anybody wish to classify THIS rant? Anybody? He was pretty much a caretaker president with his major impact being large tax cuts and big deficits and the cost/benefit of that policy is dependent on your place on the political spectrum. "Caretaker" President? Hmm, double-digit inflation AND double-digit unemployment (something economists weren't sure was possible at the time) when he took office. American morale in the toilet. Nothing good on the horizon --- and he changed all of that. His impact on the Cold war is IMO vastly overstated Provided one assumes Margaret Thatcher is lying. but if you want to give him the credit for ending it than to be fair you really should blame him for creating Osama Bin Laden as a paramilitary political entity and encouraging Saddam Hussein to commit genocide and use poisonous gas. Shockingly, American support for Hussein pretty well dried up when he launched gas. HOWEVER, French support continued unabated. Either way a pretty unremarkable President whose competence is either greatly exxagerated or diminished in a period of overheated punditocracy much like Clinton. Let me guess, FDR was nothing special, right? Teddy? Overrated. Lincoln? Didn't do squat. Am I close to your reasoning? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Anybody wish to classify THIS rant? Anybody? I placed it in my Yawn-I-Don't-Care file -- has a nice orange tab and everything... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Anybody wish to classify THIS rant? Anybody? I placed it in my Yawn-I-Don't-Care file -- has a nice orange tab and everything... I had one of those. But it's all filled with bad porn. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Let me guess, FDR was nothing special, right? Teddy? Overrated. Lincoln? Didn't do squat. Am I close to your reasoning? -=Mike Here's something I've been thinking about lately... who would win in a fight between Theodore Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 President Reagan or Actor Reagan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 7, 2004 President Reagan or Actor Reagan? President Reagan... and my pick is Theodore bully! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Teddy -- the stick he carried was huge... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Teddy -- the stick he carried was huge... yeah... and who would want to be bitten by those teeth?? oh... and Teddy was younger and boxed prize fighters in his spare time. Reagan took alot of naps... no offense to the Gipper of course Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Teddy -- the stick he carried was huge... Forget the stick, Theodore was huge enough himself and most of it wasn't fat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Teddy -- the stick he carried was huge... Forget the stick, Theodore was huge enough himself and most of it wasn't fat. So TR = ultimate hoss? Forget Roosevelt vs. Reagan... I want to see Roosevelt vs. Bradshaw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Bradshaw the Nazi. Sunday Sunday Sunday!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cynicalprofit 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Of course my question is; Does he even know he's dead? Well let's see. pappajacks just used his lack of historical knowledge to try and discredit the man's presidency. cynicalprofit chimes in with the Alzheimer's joke that nobody really thinks is funny. The only thing that this Dumbshit Holiday that is the "Sad News" thread needs now is SKBF's opinion. "In the 80s, we were the REAL Evil Empire, not the Soviets. Reagan should've employed an army of food men." Hey I thought it funny. Quiety frankly, I don't give a shit that he's dead. It wasn't like he was doing anything really in the last few years of his life. Its not a suprise he died, it happened. Now lets all move the fuck on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Burr was a pussy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Of course my question is; Does he even know he's dead? Well let's see. pappajacks just used his lack of historical knowledge to try and discredit the man's presidency. cynicalprofit chimes in with the Alzheimer's joke that nobody really thinks is funny. The only thing that this Dumbshit Holiday that is the "Sad News" thread needs now is SKBF's opinion. "In the 80s, we were the REAL Evil Empire, not the Soviets. Reagan should've employed an army of food men." Hey I thought it funny. Quiety frankly, I don't give a shit that he's dead. It wasn't like he was doing anything really in the last few years of his life. Its not a suprise he died, it happened. Now lets all move the fuck on. Well, unlike you, he accomplished things. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Burr was a pussy... The man fucked up Alexander Hamilton, after Hamilton tried to cheat in a duel. What have you done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Burr was a pussy... The man fucked up Alexander Hamilton, after Hamilton tried to cheat in a duel. What have you done? You probably don't want to know. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted June 8, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Burr was a pussy... The man fucked up Alexander Hamilton, after Hamilton tried to cheat in a duel. What have you done? Your mom... ooooooh *pumps fist in the air* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Some Guy 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 I was born in 1981 and remember watchign the news with my dad and always liking the President. As it has been said in this thread he was impossible to dislike. The man was so affable and charismatic that one couldn't help but feel close to him, even though you'd never met him. As I've gotten olfer my adimiration for him has increased. He was a great man and a great president, the 3rd best ever by my count (behind Lincoln and Washington). I have two DVDs dedicated to Reagan (one being all snippets of his most famous speeched and the other an indepth biography. I still love the "Challenger" speech that was quouted earlier and his first inaugural, that may or may not still be in my sig (I've forgotten if I changed it). But I prefer the bio DVD, there are tons of people verbally felating the man (I mean that in a good way), but my favorite story was when he got shot. The bullet hit the car first and spun down the side, cauing it to round out and sharpen like a blade and then hit him. He was rushed tot he hospital and demanded that he walk in under his own power, which he did in all his presidential glory and then collasped from the pain when he got through the door and away from the cameras. This told me all I needed to know about the man. He was such a believer in strength in the face of adversity that he felt he had to demotrate it to the American people and the world. To the person who asked I believe his last appearnce was at the '92 GOP convention, where he took a shot at Clinton, "I knew Thomas Jefferson, and you are no Thomas Jefferson." In 94 they had the big tribute to him, where Nancy came out gave a speech. I some ways I'm actually relieved that his and his family's suffering has ended and in some ways I feel that it had gone on too long. There was much consternation during one of his campaigns when he was here, in MA and help up a beer and toasted a group of people. Here's a toast to you, Mr. President. You helped shape my life with the values that you extolled and helped inspire me to try to reach happiness. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MD2020 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 I think Aaron Burr could take Teddy. Burr was a pussy... The man fucked up Alexander Hamilton, after Hamilton tried to cheat in a duel. What have you done? Your mom... ooooooh *pumps fist in the air* Well, I definately walked right into that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
