Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Saw this posted on CRZ's board. "Petals Around the Rose" Background I was introduced to "Petals Around the Rose" by Dr. Richard Duke at the University of Michigan . Dr. Duke used to begin each of his gaming/simulation courses with this exercise. While some students would solve the problem right away, others would struggle all semester. It had taken Dr. Duke well over a year himself, and he would always explain that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out. The game is quite simple. Only a basic understanding of math is required and an open and creative mind. The game can be used as an example of how different people look at the world differently, and how these different ways of looking can yield different answers. In "Petals Around the Rose" there is always one correct answer. The problem is how we define the problem. If you figure it out, DON'T POST THE ANSWER, not even in spoiler tags. Took me like 2-3 minutes (3-4 rolls) to figure it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fuzzy Dunlop 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I got it right away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted June 7, 2004 This is taking me forever. I feel stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Rediculously easy..I mean come on.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 That was easy. *Doesn't get it* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 It had taken Dr. Duke well over a year himself, and he would always explain that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out. Considering it took him a year, he would say that. Easy enough after 4 or 5 rolls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Was the solution supposd to be so obvious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I must be a genius since I can't figure this out. I know I'm over analyzing it but don't know what I should be looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C Dubya 04 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 The first thing I was thinking turned out to be right, so I did not answer incorrectly at all. Does that mean I'm dumb according to this Dr.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alfdogg 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Jesus Christ, I could have a Masters from Yale by now. I don't get this, at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I feel really stupid not getting this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 It had taken Dr. Duke well over a year himself, and he would always explain that the smarter you were, the longer it took to figure it out. Anyone on the board will tell you that Alf and I are wicked smart, so this statement is obviously correct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angle-plex 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Ha! Got it! Man I feel smart after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 First shot. Hmm, is that good or bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I should be studying for my Marketing final, but no I'm racking my brain trying to figure this out. Bah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Took me two minutes. Kinda obvious when you think about it; I had a general idea right away and just refined it a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I think some people are prematurely saying they solved it. I got it right on the first guess, but was wrong on the second. After a few more rolls, I came up with a new theory. It was proven right the first time, disproven the second. Now, I'm still trying to come up with the right solution for this problem. Spiff, I just want to thank you for this frustrating problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I'd like to believe that "The longer it takes the smarter you are", but in reality I'm just a bad problem solver and am not very creative. I WILL SOLVE THIS BEFORE I DIE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ram Report post Posted June 7, 2004 It's actually pretty easy. Took me a few times, but then when you really think about it, it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Finally got it. Christ, it took me long enough..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 About four rolls and I twigged. May I ask what the point was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hero to all Children Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Three rolls and then it became obvious. Another three test roles that applied said sollution proved me right. The point is that "highly intelligent" people would most likely apply some very abstract system to solve this little challange. They'd go far out to solve something so obvious, getting it wrong in the process. Over-complicating. Kind of like how I rattle on for hours about something, mucking up the clarity of my point instead of saying: Smart people try too hard instead of just going by guts and common sense. Also: It doesn't mean you're more intelligent, it just means that you think a lot more abstractly and/or are incapable of simple gradeschool riddles that don't rely on raw analytical power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Welp, I'm totally stumped. EDIT: Figured out the answer. That was stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Yeah, I rolled about 25 times and just started crying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caboose 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Admit it, you were crying before you even started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I got it on the first try! just count how many non-central dots there are on the dice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I rolled it once. Rolled it twice. Thought "Is that the answer? Because that's a bit too bloody obvious". Rolled it a third time. Gave the answer. Was correct. How stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Kid 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I DONT GET IT! I've been trying for 5 minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 I got it on the first try! just count how many non-central dots there are on the dice not exactly correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fook Report post Posted June 8, 2004 This is killing me. I DON'T KNOW!!!! *cries* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
