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Joe Schmoe 2 Premiers Tuesday June 15th on Spike!

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Cammy's speech was all kinds of awesome.

 

I also really enjoyed the subtitle gag, and I loved how they payed off the "romantic music" gag by having it done while Tim did the lap dance. That was some fun television. I definately enjoyed the old grade school humor.

 

Ambrosia is going. Think about it, the Bachelors are always freaked out about having kids. So Ambrosia brings up having children? Boom, she's dead in the water. And she'll go on a tirade. She's based off of Omarosa, and Omarosa was all about blaming others (she already established that during the ep, when she attacked Cammy for shoving her boobs in Austin's face or whatever). I'm guessing she attacks Cammy for being a dumb ho and maybe brings up the porn thing, and then Austin can pull out his "you're a bitch" line. That's how I would write it. That way, Cammy the favorite gets taken out next Pearl Necklace Ceremony, leaving Ingrid and Eleanor.

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Ambrosia is going. Think about it, the Bachelors are always freaked out about having kids. So Ambrosia brings up having children? Boom, she's dead in the water. And she'll go on a tirade. She's based off of Omarosa, and Omarosa was all about blaming others (she already established that during the ep, when she attacked Cammy for shoving her boobs in Austin's face or whatever).

I think this was taped before The Apprentice aired, so Ambrosia is more based on your usual self-centered type than anything else.

 

my fav part was when Ralph (in confessional) says he cant believe that someone could think that mucha dn that her mind must be running full blast 24 hours a day .

Ralph has very quickly become one of my favourite hosts - but maybe it's because we get to hear his "confessionals".

 

ONCE AGAIN SPIKETV WTF WHERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU CASTED INGRID

 

unless they did it on purpose to make it more interesting.

That's pretty much it. You want to find someone who will have doubts about the game, and push the bounds of believability. Matt Gould was a real find, as you could see that he had some notions there, but he was so "in the zone" that he never really followed up on them. The problem with Ingrid is that she hasn't entered that "zone" and so is following up on her suspicions. Or maybe the problem is that Ingrid's a woman, and they're more naturally suspicious about these things than we men are...

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I think it's fifty/fifty on who's going. I can see them ousting Engrid, but I doubt they'd take the easy way out... yet. But then again, if Ambrosia is going, when and who would be saying "You're a bitch"? Hmmm....

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Matt Gould was a real find, as you could see that he had some notions there, but he was so "in the zone" that he never really followed up on them. The problem with Ingrid is that she hasn't entered that "zone" and so is following up on her suspicions. Or maybe the problem is that Ingrid's a woman, and they're more naturally suspicious about these things than we men are...

I think it has a lot to do with the style of the show. Lap for Luxury was made out to be a very strategic game based on votes by every player. The new "reality show" is only based on two people's votes. That and there isn't someone to take their (or just Ingrid's) minds off the game. Schmoe 1 had the Hutch and Brian who could get Matt back "in the zone". Ingrid doesn't have players like them.

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Stuff from the SchmoBlog...

 

The Crisis

Episode three offered a glimpse into the sometimes nightmarish world behind-the-scenes. I’m not looking for sympathy; there’s some delicious irony in us suffering at the hands of one of our Schmos! =) I can’t tell you what a divisive issue Ingrid’s doubt became on the set. The crew was split down the middle over how to solve ‘the Ingrid problem.’ The dispute arose from a philosophical difference over the concept of the show.

 

The half who argued for staying the course view ‘Joe Schmo’ as a battle between producers and marks, the producers’ goal being to keep the marks from figuring out the truth, and the marks’ (unwitting) goal being to get to the bottom of things. By this line of reasoning, it was our job as producers simply to keep fighting the battle until it was won… to use our weapons (in this case, actors) to try to convince Ingrid that her suspicions were unfounded.

 

The half (myself included) who argued for evicting Ingrid view ‘Joe Schmo’ as two things… 1) a practical joke, and 2) a parody. In my opinion, Ingrid’s deep suspicions were destroying those two pillars of the show. It’s never fun to keep playing a practical joke on someone who has figured out that something’s wrong and is expressing doubts. And it’s also no fun to live in such fear of your Schmo that you can’t push the parody to comedic heights for fear of tipping her off.

 

Every argument you saw behind-the-scenes was all-too-real for our taste. It’s enormously taxing to produce one of these shows when everything is going *right,* so you can imagine what it’s like when things start to go awry. The biggest problem is, you’re on the clock. There’s no time to leisurely discuss the possibilities. So, you find yourself on-set at 2 AM vehemently arguing a point instead of preparing for the next day, knowing that you’re going to have to be back at the crack of dawn just to keep the show running at all.

 

A lot of you have accused us of getting too outrageous this year… of pushing our luck too far with the Schmos. Given Ingrid’s reactions, you’re probably right. Keep in mind, though, it’s much easier to determine the appropriate level of outrageousness after the fact than before. To me, ‘Joe Schmo’ is at its very best when the parody/comedy/outrageousness is pushed right to the edge of the envelope of believability. If I’m watching at home, I *want* to see the producers take chances. This isn’t a reality show, it’s a parody of a reality show. As such, it needs to be exaggerated and ridiculous. It’s our job to take the show right to the precipice of disaster. If that means we risk falling off the cliff, then that’s what it means.

 

We argued at length on-set over a simple question: At what point has a contestant officially ‘figured it out?’ You’d think this would be obvious, but it ignited a raging days-long dispute. I’ll write more about it the coming weeks.

 

One quick thing about Bryce’s poem in episode two. It was written by the hilarious Brian Keith Etheridge as a parody of a poem that Ryan wrote for Trista on ‘The Bachelorette.’ In that poem, Ryan horribly misused the word ‘plethora,’ to my and my ex-girlfriend’s great amusement. Brian and I had a huge laugh over it the next day, not realizing that it would someday serve as the inspiration for Bryce’s crummy poetry.

 

Thanks again to everyone for continuing to support the show! It means the world to us,

 

Rhett

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And one more...

 

Some Answers

So I thought I’d respond to some of your posts! I’ve read many valid criticisms of the show, but most of them have been made with the benefit of hindsight.

 

First, I need to defend Jana Speaker, who played Cammy. The latest episode creates the false impression that Jana was largely responsible for Ingrid ‘figuring it out.’ Jana made a couple mistakes, but they were small piecesin a much larger puzzle for Ingrid. No single incident tipped Ingrid off. Rather, an accumulation of smaller things worked against us. Jana is anexcellent actress who did ninety-nine out of a hundred things better than we ever could have asked. I would cast her again in a heartbeat.

 

Second, some people have accused us of taking too great a risk by revealing ‘Porked and Beans’ to Ingrid. What they have to understand is that the video plays a huge part in our show. We didn’t want to jettison key plots out of fear of one of our Schmos. So, despite Ingrid’s suspicions, we told Jana to deliver the speech. I would much prefer to endure criticism for going too far than not far enough. As I mentioned, ‘Joe Schmo’ is both a practical joke and a parody. The purpose of each is to be funny. Throw eleven actors and a couple Schmos into a house and tell the actors to behave realistically and normally, and what would you have? ‘The Real World,’ or ‘Big Brother.’ Those are amazing shows, but they aren’t practical jokes, and they aren’t parodies. ‘Joe Schmo’ is what it is, and we were never about to abandon the comedy.

 

Third, what can I say? We have dirty senses of humor! Bawdy sex-and-bathroom humor is as old as comedy itself. And we love it. One ofthe joys of writing for TV is to use sexual double entendre to sneak dirty material into ostensibly clean conversations. We don’t mind if Joe and Jane think they’re on a ridiculous, tawdry show. That’s different from them thinking they’re on a fake show. Does that make sense?

 

We made all sorts of mistakes on ‘Joe Schmo 2.’ The biggest was probably casting someone as skeptical and perceptive as Ingrid. False pride certainly played a role in our decision. I also wish we’d taken greater care to brief the day-players before the black ball eviction ceremony. And we made more mistakes that are still on the way, so buckle up!

 

Having admitted our missteps, I would do very little differently. Call it stubbornness. Call it trust in the people I work with. Call it pride inthe TV show we ended up with despite Ingrid’s doubts!

 

I hope I’m not coming across as defensive with this post. All your comments are well-founded, and we’ll take them to heart as we move forward.

 

Poor Kevin Kirkpatrick (Bryce). Literally the day before he came onto theshow, he arrived at his new apartment to discover that his new landlord had (without Kevin’s knowledge) installed wall-to-wall carpet… the color of teal. Not one stick of Kevin’s furniture matched the teal. Kevin was pissed, and he was frantically calling the landlord late at night on the setto try to rectify the problem. I had been consoling Kevin about the issue right up until the day I was talking to him about an upcoming scene and I suddenly realized that I was wearing a teal shirt. I lay down on the floor of the bedroom and said ‘What am I?’ Kevin shrugged and said, ‘What?’ I said, ‘Your carpet.’ We laughed about that for a while. =)

 

Rhett

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Guest The Last Free Voice

Well, they seem to be admiting defeat with ingrid, so I think they'll boot her.

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I watched the third episode after Heat. The sack and box stuff was stupid, but good stupid. :)

 

http://schmoblog.spiketv.com/2004/06/miscellaneous_c.html

 

One of the funniest elements of the show landed on the cutting room floor due to network standards issues. Every time Derek Newcastle watched anything remotely sexy on-set (Cammy lap-dancing, the women in bikinis, etc.), he would stuff his hand into his suit-pants pocket and start playing ‘pocket pool.’ It was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. We were wiping tears from our eyes in the edit bays. When word came back that the pocket pool was too dirty to remain in the show, there was a collective slump in the offices. Nothing sends me into a tailspin faster than removing something funny from an episode. Nothing.

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Well that was cool...so again the guy is the complete fool...

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Guest Staravenger

MATT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE CONTESTANTS?! (laughs insanely)

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LMAO "Thank god she thinks it's real"

 

And what exactly is the reason they added her? :/ I mean...the point is to slowly eliminate people...so shouldn't Ambrosia being eliminated...just be part of the game.

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:lol: He called her Omarosa.

 

And they're fucking telling Ingrid :o so I guess she will be in on it now.

Yeah. I guess I was wrong about that one.

 

This is a rather interesting twist. Good call, Parka...

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If Tim wants to work "cunnilingus" 3 times into conversation he should just talk about that SNL skit from the Christopher Walken episode.

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:lol: This is awesome.

 

The show has taken a turn from great to fucking awesome, in my eyes at least lmao.

 

Sooo..you like to eat out a lot? lmao And lol at TJ messing the word up completely and them catching up on it.

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If Tim wants to work "cunnilingus" 3 times into conversation he should just talk about that SNL skit from the Christopher Walken episode.

I was thinking the same thing. He should just say Colonel Ingus instead.

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:lol: They brought out the gay in Gerald.

 

And Tim gets a lie detector test..real responses too.

 

:lol: Gerald felt like he was Piper's moms other daughter lmao.

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