godthedog 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 FrigidSoul is right. The American Psychological Association (APA) has classified anorexia nervosa as a legitimate mental disorder in the DSM-IV. Are these the same people that decided a drug addiction was a "disease?" no, that's the AMA, not the APA. as i understand it, the former is made up of physicians, the latter obviously of psychologists. important difference. from the AMA's website: H-95.983 DRUG DEPENDENCIES AS DISEASES The AMA 1. endorses the proposition that drug dependencies...are diseases and that their treatment is a legitimate part of medical practice, and 2. encourages physicians...to become more well-informed about drug dependencies, and to base their policies and activities on the recognition that drug dependencies are, in fact, diseases. H-30.997 DUAL DISEASE CLASSIFICATION OF ALCOHOLISM The AMA reaffirms its policy endorsingthe dual classification of alcoholism under both the psychiatric and medical sections of the International Classification of Diseases. the scariest thing about this story is that my back looks exactly like mary kate's. you can count my ribs and everything. maybe i have an eating disorder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 23, 2004 the scariest thing about this story is that my back looks exactly like mary kate's. you can count my ribs and everything. maybe i have an eating disorder. Depends....are you like 90 pounds and chew a piece of gum all day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong, but usually twins are VERY close to each other, so I don't see how it's not logical. Plus the fact the only times you see them are together... Edit: To add to this, I'm questioning how one of them has it, and the other being COMPLETELY oblivious. I'm sure anorexia is a noticable disease, and the fact they are always together is more mind boggling that ashley didn't talk to her about it or whatever. First of all, just because twins are close, doesn't mean they have the same personality. That's like asking why one close friend has anorexia and the other doesn't; they're two different people, despite the media portraying them as twins who share everything, including a brain. Secondly, I'm pretty sure Ashley knew. She might have told her to get help, but you can't make a person get help and actually be successful; they have to do it themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 no, that's the AMA, not the APA. as i understand it, the former is made up of physicians, the latter obviously of psychologists. important difference. from the AMA's website: H-95.983 DRUG DEPENDENCIES AS DISEASES The AMA 1. endorses the proposition that drug dependencies...are diseases and that their treatment is a legitimate part of medical practice, and 2. encourages physicians...to become more well-informed about drug dependencies, and to base their policies and activities on the recognition that drug dependencies are, in fact, diseases. H-30.997 DUAL DISEASE CLASSIFICATION OF ALCOHOLISM The AMA reaffirms its policy endorsingthe dual classification of alcoholism under both the psychiatric and medical sections of the International Classification of Diseases. So They're crackpots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 The worst was when people would say "she is only 17, she is allowed to be skinny." I hope she gets better, the damn girl just got $300 million or whatever it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 23, 2004 $300 MILLION!?!?! Jesus Christ, If I was rich like that, I'd be eating steak every night, not nibbling on a saltine and calling it a night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve J. Rogers 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Edit: To add to this, I'm questioning how one of them has it, and the other being COMPLETELY oblivious. I'm sure anorexia is a noticable disease, and the fact they are always together is more mind boggling that ashley didn't talk to her about it or whatever. Uh, how do you know this? Are you A) related or B) one of their people? No I don't think so I seriously doubt Ashley was going to spill on her sister either to the Star or Enquirer or something like that You don't even know if Ashley said "As soon as we get out of college YOU are going to rehab for this, you NEED HELP" But if she was clueless, then yes, she must be the most clueless, in denial person this side of family members of serial killers! Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Wow...she's in pretty bad shape. Also, for those making fun of anorexia you do know its a mental condition right? Your mind actually makes you feel fat and repulsive no matter what along with convincing your body to actually vomit. Its fucking awful, I've met people who have suffered from this. You're thinking of bulimia. Anorexics don't eat, bulimics throw up after every meal. I remember watching this video when I was in the mental hospital geared at a couple girls who had eating disorders but made all of us watch it anyway, one of these silly after-school specials I guess based on a true story about a girl who kept a jar of her own vomit in her closet. Sick-ass shit. At least anorexics are clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 She doesn't have to tell World Weekly News that her sister's daily meal is one grape. However, she could have said something to her parents or something, unless she is a complete idiot and didn't even know it. Then again, don't most cases of eating disorders go "un-noticed" for some odd reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 23, 2004 I thought she would notice simply because they seem to be filming movies/tv shows/etc. all the fucking time for the last 8 years after Full House ended and thus are with each other A LOT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Maybe she's got one too. Bulimia to even it out. Bulimics can look fabulous, so it's not something you're definitely going to able to see by looking. They've been hiding each other's terrible secrets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 no, that's the AMA, not the APA. as i understand it, the former is made up of physicians, the latter obviously of psychologists. important difference. from the AMA's website: H-95.983 DRUG DEPENDENCIES AS DISEASES The AMA 1. endorses the proposition that drug dependencies...are diseases and that their treatment is a legitimate part of medical practice, and 2. encourages physicians...to become more well-informed about drug dependencies, and to base their policies and activities on the recognition that drug dependencies are, in fact, diseases. H-30.997 DUAL DISEASE CLASSIFICATION OF ALCOHOLISM The AMA reaffirms its policy endorsingthe dual classification of alcoholism under both the psychiatric and medical sections of the International Classification of Diseases. So They're crackpots. i quaver at the astounding force of your unerring logic. you have just soundly and unequivocally proven the american medical association completely wrong with your superhuman powers of reasoning and investigation. really. i'm in awe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 no, that's the AMA, not the APA. as i understand it, the former is made up of physicians, the latter obviously of psychologists. important difference. from the AMA's website: H-95.983 DRUG DEPENDENCIES AS DISEASES The AMA 1. endorses the proposition that drug dependencies...are diseases and that their treatment is a legitimate part of medical practice, and 2. encourages physicians...to become more well-informed about drug dependencies, and to base their policies and activities on the recognition that drug dependencies are, in fact, diseases. H-30.997 DUAL DISEASE CLASSIFICATION OF ALCOHOLISM The AMA reaffirms its policy endorsingthe dual classification of alcoholism under both the psychiatric and medical sections of the International Classification of Diseases. So They're crackpots. i quaver at the astounding force of your unerring logic. you have just soundly and unequivocally proven the american medical association completely wrong with your superhuman powers of reasoning and investigation. really. i'm in awe. So if being anorexic isn't a disease, than alcoholism isn't either? Is that what Sault is trying to say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Just to clear up everything, I think the overall "HA HA bitch" stuff is because she can probably have anything in the world she wants, yet needs to starve herself to become a skeleton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nighthawk 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Yes, it's because of jealousy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 JAxl, its been medically stated as a mental disorder. I wouldn't steer you wrong. Allow me to second that. I could barely stop laughing when I read this. It's just too fuckin' funny! In their movies they're all "Oh, look at us, we're so innocent and pure and sweet and NEVER do anything wrooooong!". Well, I'll bet this brought that image crashing down, doesn't it? Fuckin' bitches needed to be brought down a few pegs. How is a disease that isn't brought on by doing something questionable "wrong"? At least the girl is attracted to men who actually care for women rather than your fetish for queers that wouldn't touch you no matter how large the strap-on you purchase is. When all else fails, insult the fag-fetish, and then follow it up with a mention of a strap-on being purchased. Wow. So creative. For the record, I have never purchased a strap-on. Nor do I intend to do so anytime soon, as I live with my mom, plus a younger sis. At the moment, I have more important things to contend with. Like, oh I don't know, college perhaps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 She doesn't have to tell World Weekly News that her sister's daily meal is one grape. However, she could have said something to her parents or something, unless she is a complete idiot and didn't even know it. Then again, don't most cases of eating disorders go "un-noticed" for some odd reason? You usually don't watch every ounce of food someone puts into their body. It's not until they start losing weight you notice and a lot times they cover it very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Wow...she's in pretty bad shape. Also, for those making fun of anorexia you do know its a mental condition right? Your mind actually makes you feel fat and repulsive no matter what along with convincing your body to actually vomit. Its fucking awful, I've met people who have suffered from this. You're thinking of bulimia. Anorexics don't eat, bulimics throw up after every meal. FS isn't totally wrong. There are two types of anorexia nervosa: (1) restricting type and (2) binge-eating/purging type. The restricting type is what people generally think of as anorexia. People who have restricting anorexia don't eat much (or not at all) and exercise constantly in an attempt to lose weight, while people with binge-eating/purging type anorexia cause themselves to vomit or misuse laxatives, diuretics, and enemas. Binge-eating/purging type anorexia and purging-type bulimia are very similar. The biggest differences are (1) people with anorexia are severely underweight and (2) the amount of food eaten. People with bulimia eat an extremely large amount (approximately 15,000 to 20,000 calories) of food in a single sitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 As someone that always preferred MK to Ashley, let me say that I'm bummed that she's sick. (and let me also say that I'm glad that I recently switched to being an Ashley-fan ... she's single, so thus I have a better chance with her) And it's good to see that everyone here has always done the right thing for their friends and families. Because obviously everyone that's saying that Ashley should have said or done something sooner would have done so right away. Got a cousin that's using drugs? Intervention. Have a sibling that drinks and drives? Intervention. Have a friend that's sleeping around without a condom? Intervention. Get real, people turn a blind eye to shit all the time, and Ashley probably finally saw the writing on the wall and did say something. (not that I really know, I don't know them personally ... but it's just a guess) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Hasn't anyone else noticed that Ashley is JUST as stick-thin as Mary Kate is? They're both nothing more than skin and bones, and it does surprise me a little that only one has confessed to being an anorexic. Personally, I think both of them are suffering from the disease, but only Mary Kate had the courage to try to get treatment for it. Take a closer look. Their bodies look almost exactly the same! In that case, how could one be anorexic and the other be completely fine? The Olsen twins have turned into a sad case. At 16, they were both such cute girls. Nice bodies, beautiful faces....there was even a countdown dedicated to the day they turned 18. But over the past two years, their looks have really degenerated and they've done such terrible things to their bodies. I mean....when they turned 18, did you even hear about these "Olsen 18th Birthday Countdowns" anymore? Nope. No one even cares about them. Their looks have really taken a huge stumble, and it's obvious to anyone that has paid attention to the twins over the past few years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 For the record, I have never purchased a strap-on. Nor do I intend to do so anytime soon, as I live with my mom, plus a younger sis. That didn't stop me At the moment, I have more important things to contend with. Like, oh I don't know, college perhaps? You'd be amazed how far a strap-on will go in college Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 People with bulimia eat an extremely large amount (approximately 15,000 to 20,000 calories) of food in a single sitting. did you add a zero in there somewhere? i can't fathom eating 20,000 calories in one sitting. then again, i am anorexic, so my perceptions might be warped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 For the record, I have never purchased a strap-on. Nor do I intend to do so anytime soon, as I live with my mom, plus a younger sis. That didn't stop me At the moment, I have more important things to contend with. Like, oh I don't know, college perhaps? You'd be amazed how far a strap-on will go in college It's not a live-in college, but a community one. ITT Technical Institute, for anyone who cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted June 23, 2004 People with bulimia eat an extremely large amount (approximately 15,000 to 20,000 calories) of food in a single sitting. did you add a zero in there somewhere? i can't fathom eating 20,000 calories in one sitting. then again, i am anorexic, so my perceptions might be warped. I wouldn't say your perceptions are warped. People with bulimia really do eat up to that much in a single sitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 What I don't understand is the massive outpouring of support for her. I mean, let's face it, disease or no, M-K could simply just EAT more and end this whole problem. This girl is a multi-multi-millionaire, and can easily afford to hire all the best therapists in the world... permanently. Why does she need anyone else's help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Because it's not like she's choosing to have an eating disorder ... it's a mental disorder, that she most likely has minimal control over. So it's not like she's choosing not to eat, and thus can just choose to eat again. Having all the money in the world doesn't mean that you're not susceptible to mental problems (in fact, looking at people like Howard Hughes and the like, it's probably more likely that you'll have at least some sort of issues) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted June 23, 2004 no, that's the AMA, not the APA. as i understand it, the former is made up of physicians, the latter obviously of psychologists. important difference. from the AMA's website: H-95.983 DRUG DEPENDENCIES AS DISEASES The AMA 1. endorses the proposition that drug dependencies...are diseases and that their treatment is a legitimate part of medical practice, and 2. encourages physicians...to become more well-informed about drug dependencies, and to base their policies and activities on the recognition that drug dependencies are, in fact, diseases. H-30.997 DUAL DISEASE CLASSIFICATION OF ALCOHOLISM The AMA reaffirms its policy endorsingthe dual classification of alcoholism under both the psychiatric and medical sections of the International Classification of Diseases. So They're crackpots. i quaver at the astounding force of your unerring logic. you have just soundly and unequivocally proven the american medical association completely wrong with your superhuman powers of reasoning and investigation. really. i'm in awe. The day I see someone quit Cancer, I'll say that a drug addiction is a disease. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 23, 2004 Hasn't anyone else noticed that Ashley is JUST as stick-thin as Mary Kate is? They're both nothing more than skin and bones, and it does surprise me a little that only one has confessed to being an anorexic. Personally, I think both of them are suffering from the disease, but only Mary Kate had the courage to try to get treatment for it. Take a closer look. Their bodies look almost exactly the same! In that case, how could one be anorexic and the other be completely fine? One of the few times we agreed. Now why isn't he getting chewed out for the almost same thing I said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jingus 0 Report post Posted June 24, 2004 I'm sorry, I just can't find any sympathy deep down in my heart for a ludicrously skinny millionaire who, despite being a huge star and being universally hailed as good-looking for her entire life (and obviously having had at least a little cosmetic surgery at some point), is so delusional that she can't bear to fucking eat something and has to resort to entering some kind of high-priced "treatment facility". I've known too many poor overweight girls with legitimate problems to care about her overpaid underpadded ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted June 24, 2004 Amen, preach on Brother Jingus!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites