stahl 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 Yah let's see, make over 5 mil a year as a WWE main eventer or make 250K as an NFL back up? Yah he picked the NFL for the money alright. Brock was not making 5 or even 10 million a year in the WWE like his agent is falsely reporting. His downside guarantee was just over 1 million according to Meltzer in a past WO newsletter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I hate him even more now... And Man Of 1004 Modes just earned about a million respect points, I didnt think it possible but I hate Brock even more now too, and compared to how much I hated him before, well thats a whole lot of hate. Serioulsy though if Brock hated it so much he should of never joined the WWE, he was just wasting his time and everyone elses time for watching him on TV. Did you not read: the whole phrase was taken out of context on the show lesnar said "if I could go back I would have done things diferently and tried to play right out of college,but I was tired of being broke I had to eat" I watched the piece and he never said anything remotely bad about the wrestling business its obvious that the site that reported this probably didnt even watch it. Also Lesnar looks to be sincere about his efforts to play football and Tony Dungy a great coach stated that he believed that Lesnar has a lot of promise and upside I say let him take his chance and if he doesnt make it we all know he will be back and more than likely he will be back by Wrestlemania of next year then at least he will have a clear mind since he gave his dream a chance ...And... From what I heard, he really never wanted to go to professional wrestling to begin with. He was starving and he decided that it was the best way to get out of the situation. But he ended up never being around his daughter because he was on the road all the time so he didn't want to do it anymore. That's why he regretted the decision, he didn't have a minute to spend with his child and he couldn't handle it. His dream was to play football and it sounds like he would have picked football from the start if he wasn't broke. Now he has the money from the WWE and he can go after his dream of playing football and it will allow alot more free time than the WWE. Wanting to follow a dream and spend more time with your kid is good enough reasons for me. But, of course Brock is EVIL~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I'm not football expert, far from it actually, but for the position he's trying out for, didn't he need to gain speed and in doing that, lose some muscle mass? Bingo. Brock was huge in college, he was huge in the WWE and now he has cut muscle mass to increase speed and stamina for DE in the NFL. Brock's body size hasn't changed one bit, he just cut some mass to increase speed. Doesn't mean he's still not strong, just stronger in the legs for the push against a line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I hate Brock because he's a fucking crybaby. Vince hands him everything in about 2 months, keeps him strong over anyone with name value (Rock, Hogan, Undertaker, Angle, Benoit....) but when it's time for him to do a few jobs, he throws a hissy fit and quits on FOUR DAYS NOTICE. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that A LOT shorter than the normal formal notice of wanting a release? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 It was reported for months he wasn't happy. He gave Vince two weeks notice, maybe more. It just didn't get leaked until the week of Wrestlemania. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 26, 2004 IIRC, Meltzer reported Brock told Vince of it the Smackdown taping the week of WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 And Man of 1004 Modes has just earned himself even more respect points. I agree with him a 100% Brock is a crybaby, when my friend compared him to The Ultimate Warrior only a month after debuting in the WWE he wasnt far off in my opinion. You know if Brock really does regret working for the WWE, I wonder if he regrets the fortune that he gained while there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted June 26, 2004 look, the fact of the matter is, he was unhappy and left. i'm sure when he first started, he liked wrestling, or if not, he thought he would. but he later found out he was wrong. what would you have him do? stick around, have him mail in shitty, half-assed performances at the expense of all the other guys who WANT to be there? the way i see it, he did the right thing. he was miserable, and looked for alternatives. and, if nothing else, his departure leaves the door open for the other guys who love wrestling and will now get a chance to main event (not that will actually happen, but ideally it would). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaceman Spiff 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 when my friend compared him to The Ultimate Warrior only a month after debuting in the WWE he wasnt far off in my opinion. If by "wasn't far off" you mean 1000000% wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I hate Brock because he's a fucking crybaby. Yeah, wanting to BE WITH HIS DAUGHTER = crybaby. Wanting to follow your dreams = crybaby. You're a genius, man. I'd say YOU are the crybaby. Bitching and moaning and "hating" Brock because you think he abandoned you and wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I hate Brock because he's a fucking crybaby. Yeah, wanting to BE WITH HIS DAUGHTER = crybaby. Wanting to follow your dreams = crybaby. You're a genius, man. I'd say YOU are the crybaby. Bitching and moaning and "hating" Brock because you think he abandoned you and wrestling. Then why hasn't he played football on any kind of level for 10 years? Usually following your dreams = being commited to what your dream is. He out-right bashed "Pro wrestling" before he even was signed by WWE, only signs with them for quick fame, and quits when he feels like he's had enough. How is this different from Austin walking out? Brock had years in him while Austin was done, but it seems like Brock is having everyone give him verbal hand jobs because he "wanted to play for the NFL" while Austin left because he also didn't like how the company was using him and had little time left to actually go in the ring. So please? Explain the difference on why I should hate Austin for walking out, and not Brock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I agree with Lesnar. I wish he had never come to WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdwardKnoxII 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I hate Brock because he's a fucking crybaby. Vince hands him everything in about 2 months, keeps him strong over anyone with name value (Rock, Hogan, Undertaker, Angle, Benoit....) but when it's time for him to do a few jobs, he throws a hissy fit and quits on FOUR DAYS NOTICE. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that A LOT shorter than the normal formal notice of wanting a release? Yeah how dare Brock not want to do a program with UT. I mean look how well UT treated Brock last time they wrestle. What with UT beating both him AND Big Show, the World champ and the US champ, three times in a row in one night so they can build up UT for a match with Vince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 26, 2004 Then why hasn't he played football on any kind of level for 10 years? Usually following your dreams = being commited to what your dream is. Maybe he wasn't any good at it. Maybe he was, you know, BUSY BEING AN AMATEUR WRESTLER?! He out-right bashed "Pro wrestling" before he even was signed by WWE, only signs with them for quick fame, and quits when he feels like he's had enough. Every asshole on this forum bashes WWE. I bash WWE. Would ANYONE not accept a multi-million dollar job with them if they offered? Yeah, fuck Brock for wanting financial security. He's clearly the next Hitler. How is this different from Austin walking out? Brock had years in him while Austin was done, but it seems like Brock is having everyone give him verbal hand jobs because he "wanted to play for the NFL" while Austin left because he also didn't like how the company was using him and had little time left to actually go in the ring. So please? Explain the difference on why I should hate Austin for walking out, and not Brock? Did I say you should hate Austin for walking out? NO. So why the hell do you even bring it up? You're reaching for reasons to hate Brock, and it's lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalOrangeGoblin 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 I'm sure Brock feels horrible about following his dreams and leaving somewhere where he's not happy just because a bunch of people on the internet pointlessly bash him. Wow he's not a slave to the industry like 99% of other wrestlers. That makes him a horrible person... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 So please? Explain the difference on why I should hate Austin for walking out, and not Brock? Brock put Eddie over before he left. Even though he didn't like it, he still did it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 26, 2004 Did I say you should hate Austin for walking out? NO. So why the hell do you even bring it up? You're reaching for reasons to hate Brock, and it's lame. I DID hate Austin for doing it. Brock is in the same boat, except even more. Brock right now would be 10000x better than any main event heel produced on SD, because he was built up enough that he can be "squashed" but not lose credibilty. And the putting over Eddie thing doesn't really work for me. Austin was in the middle of a feud with Eddie (that he REQUESTED to do IIRC) before he was anything but a IC Title contender, but the lousy writing/booking whatever was the last straw. Brock jobbing to Eddie wasn't anything to sing praise. Goldberg hit him with the spear and Eddie did a Tornado DDT onto the world title before doing the frog splash/pin, so Brock really didn't put Eddie over clean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2004 As for bashing Brock after he left the WWE, I was bashing Brock only 2 months after he debuted with the WWE wishing he would quit or be fired, when I heard he quit I actually laughed out loud in joy. So I wish Brock well in his quest to join the NFL and I hope he becomes a huge superstar in the NFL. The longer hes there and the happier he is there, then the happier I am because it will take that much longer before he comes crawling back to the WWE, which you know he'll end up doing after a while even if its only around so much as Foley or The Rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Seven Sins Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Like many have said in here already,If Following your dreams and wanting to be with your Daughter makes you a crybaby, then Brock is one in that sense. He only went into wrestling to keep himself fed. Hell i don't see you people bashing some of the indy promotions. Most of the wrestlers in the indy's wrok there so they can actually see their family when they want to. With the WWE and it's travel schedule it's fukcing hard to do that. Lay off of Lesnar., and go bitch about London being held down or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I could actually care less about Paul London either until I actually see the WWE doing something with him, if that ever does in fact happen. Until that day hes just another wrestler in the WWE Jobberweight division to me. I would like to say Im impressed by him but when the only things you see is hm getting squashed by Bradshaw or the name sake of this thread Brock Lesnar, its hard to find a reason to like him. I would like everyone to take note that I dont get Volicity nor have seen any of his ROH stuff, so those squash matches are all I have to judge him by thus far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I was unaware Brock Lesnar is the only wrestler alive that was with WWE this year that has a fucking kid. Give me a break, EVERYONE wants to be with their family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Seven Sins Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I could actually care less about Paul London either until I actually see the WWE doing something with him, if that ever does in fact happen. Until that day hes just another wrestler in the WWE Jobberweight division to me. I would like to say Im impressed by him but when the only things you see is hm getting squashed by Bradshaw or the name sake of this thread Brock Lesnar, its hard to find a reason to like him. I would like everyone to take note that I dont get Volicity nor have seen any of his ROH stuff, so those squash matches are all I have to judge him by thus far. 1. I was using London as an example 2. I wasn't directly saying that rant to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I was unaware Brock Lesnar is the only wrestler alive that was with WWE this year that has a fucking kid. Give me a break, EVERYONE wants to be with their family. And EVERYONE has the right to leave their job if they're miserable. Get that through your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 What was making him miserable again? I didn't get the list of grivences I thought he just wanted to leave and try the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I was unaware Brock Lesnar is the only wrestler alive that was with WWE this year that has a fucking kid. Give me a break, EVERYONE wants to be with their family. And EVERYONE has the right to leave their job if they're miserable. Get that through your head. Fine. Call off Wrestling, Football season, the next Hockey season, the next basketball season or anything else that includes a lot of traveling around the country away from home, because everyone who chose their life of playing sports decided they don't want to be away from their family anymore. How old is Brocks daughter anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbondrage99 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 This is a pointless arguement. Its strictly based on how much people like Lesnar, if they like him they take his side, if not they just wanna bash him. I hate him, I bash him. Like I said before thats nothing new and didnt start because he left the WWE, so much as the fact that he was there in the first place. I have already said a couple of times over in this thread that I hate Lesnar but I have also wished him the best in his quest to join the NFL. At the end of the day everyone has one wrestler who they dislike over any other wrestler. Brock is that wrestler in my case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 27, 2004 I was unaware Brock Lesnar is the only wrestler alive that was with WWE this year that has a fucking kid. Give me a break, EVERYONE wants to be with their family. And EVERYONE has the right to leave their job if they're miserable. Get that through your head. Fine. Call off Wrestling, Football season, the next Hockey season, the next basketball season or anything else that includes a lot of traveling around the country away from home, because everyone who chose their life of playing sports decided they don't want to be away from their family anymore. Yes. Of course. The entire world is going to shut down if we let Brock leave WWE. Oh no! Slippery slope! The sky is falling! Give me a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Anyone with half a brain knows the incrediblly hard schedule the WWE runs, and to tell me Brock didn't know this 3-4 years ago when whoever came knocking at his door is just a bunch of lies. NO ONE can be that oblivious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gert T 0 Report post Posted June 27, 2004 Anyone with half a brain knows the incrediblly hard schedule the WWE runs, and to tell me Brock didn't know this 3-4 years ago when whoever came knocking at his door is just a bunch of lies. NO ONE can be that oblivious. Just because you "know about" it does not really compare to when you actually get out there and do it. I think Brock's kid was not born before he started. And I think Eddie beat Brock twice before No Way Out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted June 27, 2004 No, just once after a low blow and rollup on the Smackdown just before NWO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites