A Challenge for the Match watchers

[Guest Trivia247]

Ok we get sometimes overboard over the ***** matches. the OMG that was great type of matches. Some of us can spin out a list of ***** matches , but can you give us a list of the actual wrestlers who have been in or have actively made a match a *****?

[Tawren 0]

Toshiaka Kawada

Mitsuhara Misawa

Akira Taue

Kenta Kobashi

Stan Hansen

Steve Austin

Bret Hart

Eddy Guerrero

Rey Misterio

Juventud Guerrera

Chris Benoit

Jumbo Tsurata

 

To name some off the top of my head.

[Guest momoracci]

Manami Toyota

Toshiyo Yamada

Dynamite Kansai

Mayumi Ozaki

Akira Hokuto

Shinobu Kandori

Mitsuharu Misawa

Kenta Kobashi

Toshiaki Kawada

Akira Taue

Jun Akiyama

Kiyoshi Tamura

Tsuyoshi Kohsaka

 

As for the matches...

 

Toyota/Yamada vs. Kansai/Ozaki, 11/26/92

Hokuto vs. Kandori, 4/2/93

Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue, 12/3/93 & 6/9/95

Misawa vs. Kawada, 6/3/94

Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue, 12/6/96

Tamura vs. Kohsaka, 6/27/98

[Internet Warfare 0]

HBK

Bret Hart

Misawa

Masahiro Chono

Tawren already listed the other ones I had in mind.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Toshiaka Kawada

Mitsuhara Misawa

Akira Taue

Kenta Kobashi

Stan Hansen

Steve Austin

Bret Hart

Eddy Guerrero

Rey Misterio

Juventud Guerrera

Chris Benoit

Jumbo Tsurata

 

To name some off the top of my head.

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Stan Hansen produced ***** matches? I'm assuming in Japan?

[Guest BobBacklundRules]

When did Juvi have a 5* match?

[Guest momoracci]

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Stan Hansen produced ***** matches? I'm assuming in Japan?

 

Lots of people consider his 7/29/93 match w/Kobashi a 5-star match. I have it at ****3/4.

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Stan Hansen produced ***** matches? I'm assuming in Japan?

 

Lots of people consider his 7/29/93 match w/Kobashi a 5-star match. I have it at ****3/4.

ahh a Kobashi match.... no wonder. Carry on...

 

 

My sole picks are:

 

 

Bret Hart

Steve Austin

Chris Benoit

Eddie Guerrero

Rey Misterio Jr

 

 

 

I haven't seen much of the Japan stuff, so sorry if I don't name Kobashi/Misawa/Tsurata/etc....

[Tawren 0]

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Stan Hansen produced ***** matches? I'm assuming in Japan?

As momoracci said, 7/29/93 vs Kobashi.

 

When did Juvi have a 5* match?

 

3/16/96 vs Rey Misterio Jr.

[Guest Rrrsh]

When did Juvi have a 5* match?

That what I was thinking.

[Guest Rrrsh]

3/17/96 vs Rey Misterio Jr.

What was the context (what show, was their an angle or a fued)

 

I am a little hazy about 96 right now.

[Tawren 0]

First off, to correct myself it was 3/16/96 not 3/17.

 

The match is in AAA and it is fantastic. The mat work mixed in with the high spots, the way each man builds to his moves, it is just great. I believe it is a climax to a long feud between the two, but I haven't seen enough lucha to comment on the feud and how much it built to this match. The actual work here, though, tells a great story and it works perfectly. I highly recommend finding this match.

[Guest Real F'n Show]

Toshiaka Kawada

Mitsuhara Misawa

Kenta Kobashi

Jumbo Tsurata

Jushin Liger

Ric Flair

Ricky Steamboat

Steve Austin

Bret Hart

Eddie Guerrero

Rey Mysterio Jr.

Chris Benoit

Randy Savage

Shawn Michaels

Mick Foley

[Guest Ray]

Excuse my ignorance, but when has Stan Hansen produced ***** matches? I'm assuming in Japan?

 

Lots of people consider his 7/29/93 match w/Kobashi a 5-star match. I have it at ****3/4.

ahh a Kobashi match.... no wonder. Carry on...

You say that....as if you think Hansen wasn't any good.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

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[LucharesuFan619 0]

How has only one person said Flair? He should be on like, all of your lists, LOL. His series with Steamboat was beyond stupdenous.

[IWD 0]

Add Dynamite Kid to that list.

 

I'd also consider Shocker from the lucha libre world.

[Guest Monday Night Jericho]

I take star ratings with a grain of sault but could someone tell me how the Flair classics can stand next to others that could be considered as 5*?

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

Well, they are good.. All the moves have meaning, a good story is told, the psychology is solid, and the work is very, very good. How do they not match up?

[Guest momoracci]

He should be on like, all of your lists, LOL. His series with Steamboat was beyond stupdenous.

 

Meh, he's not on my list b/c Jumbo & Tenryu were blowing the Flair/Steamboat stuff out of the water in '89, laying the groundwork for a style that would produce more great matches than any other. And I dig Chi Town Rumble. A lot. It's just that, *in the context of its time*, Flair/Steamboat has a hard time competing when you look at the far more transcendent work around it.

[KTID 0]

Can we stop naming the same guys over and over again. If someones already been named, you don't need to name them again.

 

Anyways, this is all the names so far:

 

 

Toshiaka Kawada

Mitsuhara Misawa

Akira Taue

Kenta Kobashi

Stan Hansen

Steve Austin

Bret Hart

Eddy Guerrero

Rey Misterio

Juventud Guerrera

Chris Benoit

Jumbo Tsurata

Manami Toyota

Toshiyo Yamada

Dynamite Kansai

Mayumi Ozaki

Akira Hokuto

Shinobu Kandori

Jun Akiyama

Kiyoshi Tamura

Tsuyoshi Kohsaka

HBK

Masahiro Chono

Jushin Liger

Ric Flair

Ricky Steamboat

Randy Savage

Mick Foley

Dynamite Kid

Shocker

 

 

Some of these names are unquestionable (Misawa, Kawada, Austin...), some are questionable to say the least (Flair, Savage, Michaels...) and some i've simply not seen enough of to decide (Shocker). Now can we please stick to either discussing reasons whether or not we would include one of the names here already, or adding new names to have their merits discussed.

[Special K 0]

I'd include:

Shinjiro Ohtani.

Agile, mean, and tough. Had a great handful of matches with Liger (Iknow, everyone else did too, but he truly could bring it to the level of LIger.)

 

EDIT: You can't include Chono, and not Muto, since their match together at the G-1 Climax Finals is the best of Chono's career, to my knowledge.

 

Of course, I could be missing a match, I'm hardly the authority on puro.

[spman 0]

Has Kurt Angle ever gone *****?

[Detox 0]

Has Kurt Angle ever gone *****?

there may be some resistance in this but at King of The Ring 2001 Angle and Shane McMahon put on a hell of a match it may have been gimmicky (i.e the overhead suplex through the glass set) but I thought it was a great match maybe not quiet 5 star but an excellent match nonetheless

[Just John 0]

Isn't that the match where Shane McMahon out-wrestled an olympic gold medalist? I always thought that match was overrated. Angle's best match was against Austin at SS 01 and I'd put that at ****+, but not 5. His match with Benoit at RR 03 was also very good, but not 5*.

[Guest Goodear]

I love Randy Savage to death but he's simply far better at getting loads over (Ultimate Warrior, Hogan, DDP) than he is at having a bunch of blow away matches with good co-workers. If the WWF had a bit better talent roster back in the Wrestlemania III-V era I think we would have had a much better look at Savage but even what he did with big lugs is pretty impressive in my eyes.

[BHK 0]

some people place Angle/Benoit at *****. The only thing that ruins Angle/Austin at SS 01 is the(if I remember correctly) DQ finish.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Has Kurt Angle ever gone *****?

there may be some resistance in this but at King of The Ring 2001 Angle and Shane McMahon put on a hell of a match it may have been gimmicky (i.e the overhead suplex through the glass set) but I thought it was a great match maybe not quiet 5 star but an excellent match nonetheless

You might be right if it wasn't an overhyped piece of crap match that's *** and that's only because I'm in an extremely generous mood right now. Actually strike that down to **1/2 and leave the I'm in an extremely generous mood.

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

You know, that's one of those matches that is hard to rate. It's definitely entertaining, but most of that is for the novelty of it. I don't think there is any way I'd call it 5* (or even 4) but it certainly was something to see.

[theintensifier 0]

Great Sasuke

Triple H

Owen Hart

Razor Ramon

Terry Funk

El Samurai