Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 CAMPAIGN DRAMA ROCKS DEMOCRATS: KERRY FIGHTS OFF MEDIA PROBE OF RECENT ALLEGED INFIDELITY, RIVALS PREDICT RUIN I think it can be argued that this "drama" that didn't exist certainly didn't "rock" the democrats. Drudge was reporting something sloppily. Just admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 CAMPAIGN DRAMA ROCKS DEMOCRATS: KERRY FIGHTS OFF MEDIA PROBE OF RECENT ALLEGED INFIDELITY, RIVALS PREDICT RUIN I think it can be argued that this "drama" that didn't exist certainly didn't "rock" the democrats. Drudge was reporting something sloppily. Just admit it. No, he didn't get this wrong. The drama DID rock the Dems for a little while. Just as the claims that Bush helped Enron rocked the GOP for a little while. That they were not true is irrelevant in this regard. It DID cause a lot of problems for Kerry for about a week or so. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 The drama DID rock the Dems for a little while. It DID cause a lot of problems for Kerry for about a week or so. Care to back that up? All it did was send some lefty blogs up into arms against him. It had no effect on anything in the real world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 The drama DID rock the Dems for a little while. It DID cause a lot of problems for Kerry for about a week or so. Care to back that up? All it did was send some lefty blogs up into arms against him. It had no effect on anything in the real world. Did Kerry have to defend himself while on Imus? Did questions about this NOT dominate the news? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Did Kerry have to defend himself while on Imus? He laughed it off as absurd. Did questions about this NOT dominate the news? It was mentioned by precisely no legitimate news sources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Did Kerry have to defend himself while on Imus? He laughed it off as absurd. Did questions about this NOT dominate the news? It was mentioned by precisely no legitimate news sources. You know I can mention who specifically reported on it and the like, if you want to go that route. -=Mike ...Needless to say, it wasn't "no legitimate services"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Go ahead. Post the articles. I know for a fact that CNN never touched it, and neither did MSNBC or CBS. Fox may have made mention of it on one of their opinion shows, but they're hardly news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 No see, if Hillary is the VP an Kerry happens to win, then this screws up Mr. Dick Morris's theory that Hillary is sabatoging Kerry in 2004 and will go on to run for Prez in 2008. (LOL) I am not going to say that there is "NO CHANCE IN HELL" that it is Hilary that will be chosen as the VP, however Drudge is hardly ever reliable, and usually will go after any smoke signal out there, so who knows. I will say, honestly, Drudge is about as reliable as the NY Times. Take it as you wish. -=Mike well considering I have quoted the NY Times, approx NEVER..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Go ahead. Post the articles. I know for a fact that CNN never touched it, and neither did MSNBC or CBS. Fox may have made mention of it on one of their opinion shows, but they're hardly news. Well, considering Time Magazine, the AP, ABC News, and the Washington Post all WERE THE SOURCES OF THE STORY --- you could always start with those 4 non-legitimate news sources. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Well, considering Time Magazine, the AP, ABC News, and the Washington Post all WERE THE SOURCES OF THE STORY --- you could always start with those 4 non-legitimate news sources. Post the articles they wrote about it, then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Well, considering Time Magazine, the AP, ABC News, and the Washington Post all WERE THE SOURCES OF THE STORY --- you could always start with those 4 non-legitimate news sources. Post the articles they wrote about it, then. Funny how every article on it describes the situation as a "media frenzy". BTW, google can be your friend, too. I don't feel like linking entire google pages on a search of "Alexandra Polier". Only 10,600 matches, ya know. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 All you have to do is post one or two legitimate sources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 All you have to do is post one or two legitimate sources. Would mentioning that Drudge said he should've added that there was no link between Kerry and Polier and had he not first heard of this from Wes Clark, he wouldn't have even mentioned it, help? Because, nope, not a ton of good news sources here --- outside of reporters reporting on the media frenzy itself. This, though, is from an article she wrote herself: 'One reporter had a little girl call up, assuming I wouldn't hang up on a child. They even made her say, "Can I talk to Alex?" And when I said, "Yes, it's me," a reporter jumped on the line. CNN's Zain Verjee wrote beseeching notes, slipping them under the front gate. It was like a horror movie where the zombies are on the other side of the door and then an arm comes through the window. Stuck with Kerry's denial, each of the American networks had hired a local fixer to approach me for a big sit-down. "Tell me it's true and we're on the next plane to Nairobi!" ABC's Chris Vlasto e-mailed hopefully. Good Morning America, the Today show, CNN, and 60 Minutes all offered me airtime to tell my story. Editors whom I'd been begging for work were now clamoring for my attention.' -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Who is "she" and where was this published? Link, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vyce 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Either one is a great choice in my eyes. Hilary is the best bet tho in my opinion...damn..it is SO Kerry's year. You're crazy. And I mean that with all sincerity. If he really does pick Hillary, Bush can kick back and relax. Because Kerry just ensured him another 4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I only remember Don Imus asking Kerry about the story, and he denied it. And that was pretty much the end of that. But hey, don't let fact get in the way of your spin. DEVELOPING... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Back on topic: If Kerry picks Hillary as his running mate, he better get a food taster if you follow me....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Hillary would be suicide. A lot of people who aren't conservatives can't stand her, and some of those folks are people who might have otherwise voted for Kerry. She's still too polarizing a figure after the White House years and somehow hornswaggling a Senate seat from a state she'd never lived in before. Besides, there are a lot of good ol' boys who simply wouldn't vote for a ticket that included a woman, and that will hurt, too. Gephardt has to be ruled out, since a Kerry/Gephardt ticket would be two charisma vortexes. While I don't think Gephardt woud cost Kerry nearly the votes Hillary would, he also won't gain him very many, either. Edwards looks to be the best choice. He did OK for himself in the early primaries, and has the looks and charisma to draw voters. Considering Kerry lacks in both those areas, Edwards would help him; he'd overshadow him were it not for the fact that Kerry is simply much better-known. Obviously, I hope Hillary is the choice, since that's the final nail in the coffin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted June 30, 2004 I haven't read the thread besides Mike's first post, but if this ends up being true, Kerry has officially lost my vote. Although I take up the conservative side most of the time here, I still considered myself on the fence until the elections (and I did register as a Democrat, not that it means much to me), but if Hillary Clinton, the swarmy, socialist, elitist publicity hound is the VP candidate there is no way I will vote for Kerry's ticket, and I imagine there are MANY others on the fence and other Dems who will feel the same way. And remember, I liked Bill, but she is possibly my least favorite politician and I will not vote for her to be one step away from the Presidency... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted June 30, 2004 Who is "she" and where was this published? Link, please. She is Alexandra Polier. THe source is the NY Metro Magazine where she wrote the piece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Obviously, I hope Hillary is the choice, since that's the final nail in the coffin. I'm confused. I thought you wanted to bring in more troops? Maybe I was just dreaming that.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricMM 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 I don't know who I'm voting for this year, but I know this: Kerry/Clinton would be the smarmiest ticket ever. I would have a harder time voting for that than I did for Gore/Liberman, and I DIDN'T vote for them. Bush may make awful decisions, wrong decisions, but he doesn't do it smarmily... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 If it's true that Hillary is running, props to all parties involved by paying tribute to Ronald Reagan with another GOP blowout of historical proportions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted July 1, 2004 I hope Kerry does pick Hilary because nothing will insure a Bush victory more. I know several liberal people who will vote for Bush if she's on the ticket. It's pretty sad that she could even cost some party support for the ticket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 1, 2004 If it's true that Hillary is running, props to all parties involved by paying tribute to Ronald Reagan with another GOP blowout of historical proportions. This made me laugh my ass off. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 I will never vote for a ticket that includes Hillary Clinton, not because she's a woman, but because she's an evil bitch. And this is coming from someone who is strongly opposed to another four years of Bush. I'm in a reasonably safe state for the Dems so my vote really doesn't matter as much as it would if I were living in a swing state, but running with Hillary is a death sentance and I will disavow any support for Kerry should it happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olympic Slam Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Maybe I'm stereotyping too much, but if I were a southerner a Kerry/Clinton ticket would be like the ultimate southern nightmare. They're so elitist and snotty that they come off as a pair of carpetbaggers circa Civil War reconstruction. Kerry is a lock for Gore's larger blue states and Bush can't afford to lose any of the southern states. Edwards or someone that doesn't come off as the typical snooty yankee might put Kerry over the top. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Obviously, I hope Hillary is the choice, since that's the final nail in the coffin. I'm confused. I thought you wanted to bring in more troops? Huh? I want Hillary to be the VP choice because it ensures Kerry's defeat. That's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Obviously, I hope Hillary is the choice, since that's the final nail in the coffin. I'm confused. I thought you wanted to bring in more troops? Huh? I want Hillary to be the VP choice because it ensures Kerry's defeat. That's it. But wouldn't you want to see the first campaign where the VP candidate gets top billing? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2004 Maybe I'm stereotyping too much, but if I were a southerner a Kerry/Clinton ticket would be like the ultimate southern nightmare. They're so elitist and snotty that they come off as a pair of carpetbaggers circa Civil War reconstruction. Kerry is a lock for Gore's larger blue states and Bush can't afford to lose any of the southern states. Edwards or someone that doesn't come off as the typical snooty yankee might put Kerry over the top. I agree completely. Kerry/Clinton is political suicide, Edwards is still the best candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
