UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 From WCW Uncensored '99 ***First match, Mikey Whipwreck (WCW debut) Vs. Billy Kidman, enjoying a 4-month reign as WCW Cruiserweight Champion.*** Whipwreck comes out to no music. He also comes out frowning and making angry faces at the crowd. His gimmick is HE IS A LOVEABLE UNDERDOG. Sigh. God, Heenan is making comments like "I like this guy..." Second mistake, burying Mikey, who is a pretty good talent that the fans could have gotten behind, by putting him against Kidman in the first match, who is mega-over as a face. Oh, one more. The bookers also fucked Mikey over by starting off the show with him and his more ground-based attack, when in the past months Kidman had kicked off the show with high-flying affairs, facing the likes of Mysterio, Juventud, Psychosis, and Eddie Guerrero. No music. Tried making him a heel. No fanfare. Facing a mega-over champion. Different style then the rest of the division. Good job, WCW.
Guest netslob Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 and wasn't that his ONLY match in WCW? i'm hard-pressed to think of another one.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted July 4, 2004 Author Report Posted July 4, 2004 Haha, he should be so lucky. CLEAN loss to Scotty Riggs at Spring Stampede 99. CLEAN loss to Van Hammer at Great American Bash 99.
Der Kommissar Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 I thought they just signed him because he held a pinfall victory over Steve Austin, so they thought it would be funny to have their Cruiserweight Champion beat some guy who once beat Austin.
Guest netslob Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 i thought they signed him just to fuck with ECW.
The Mountie Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 Apparently he also faced Hardcore Hak on the Thunder prior to Spring Stampede 99. E-C-dub!
King Cucaracha Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 To Mikey's credit, he didn't play the heel role badly and the match was great. Plus the Cruiser division already had Kidman, Rey and Juvi so they needed heels more than they did faces. So that's some excuse. I guess.
Youth N Asia Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 Don't get me started on WCW's misuse of Mikey. First off. He works the match after 3 months on his ass and no introduction to the WCW faithful. For the shot they gave him he couldn't have done any better. That 15 minute match completly stole the show. Other than that he did some ppv jobs where he'd switch from heel to face for no reason...the whole time not getting on Nitro or Thunder...so people didn't know who he was. Heel or face, it wouldn't matter. If they gave him a shot to get over on TV a few times...with BETTER OPPONENTS than Disco Inferno, Van Hammer, and Chase Tatum, who knows. He said the only reason he didn't leave sooner was cause he was getting married and needed the money. For those who know me here, I'm the biggest friggin Mikey mark there is. And I was still watching WCW up untill I saw how poorly they were using him.
deancoles Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 (edited) How many matches did he win in wcw? I can only think of one against Bobby Blaze on Saturday Night when he used the top rope whippersnapper. Edited July 4, 2004 by deancoles411
Youth N Asia Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 If he won anything it was on Saturday Night...although no one watched. I actually have a 90 minute Mikey in WCW tape/
1234-5678 Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 First off. He works the match after 3 months on his ass and no introduction to the WCW faithful. For the shot they gave him he couldn't have done any better. That 15 minute match completly stole the show. Seconded. Mikey looked like a star in that match.
UseTheSledgehammerUh Posted July 4, 2004 Author Report Posted July 4, 2004 I wouldn't say he looked like a star, but he did put up a good effort and the match was the best on the card, if not spectacular. They still could have done so much with Mikey in that division.
Youth N Asia Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 And I credit Kidman just as much for the match. If they'd have given Mikey a shot on tv they could have had a very good series of matches
Placebo Effect Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 Mikey also won a match against a Villano on Saturday Night. The thing is, signing Mikey made absolutely no sense. Scott Keith made note of it, and this is the same feeling I got. Mikey was never a tremendous talent, and never showed a huge amount of charisma prior to the genius gimmick Paul gave him, Tajiri, and Mitchell in ECW. So why sign the guy when there are twenty guys on the roster who can do just about the same thing?
Guest Real F'n Show Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 If he won anything it was on Saturday Night...although no one watched. I actually have a 90 minute Mikey in WCW tape/ Heh, 90 minutes... Is that ALL of his WCW matches?
deancoles Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 90 minutes? How many Sid run ins are there? Mikey and Disorderly Conduct seemed to be his favourite victims and whenever they were on Nitro or Thunder you could see the Crowd waiting for the run in.
Placebo Effect Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 90 minutes? How many Sid run ins are there? Mikey and Disorderly Conduct seemed to be his favourite victims and whenever they were on Nitro or Thunder you could see the Crowd waiting for the run in. Mikey actually only got squashed by Sid once if I remember correctly. And yes, Mikey did only win two matches his entire time in WCW - Against a Villano, and against Bobby Blaze.
Guest whitemilesdavis Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 I always thought Mikey was a good guy who could get over in ECW or on the idies, but would never transfer to the big 2. Now, we'll never know, because WCW didn't give hin the proper chance, but that was just always the feeling I had about him.
deancoles Posted July 4, 2004 Report Posted July 4, 2004 Mikey and Tajiri would probably have suited WCW in 2001 as Misterio and Kidman's main feud for the Cruiserweight tag Belts.
Guest netslob Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 The thing is, signing Mikey made absolutely no sense. Scott Keith made note of it, and this is the same feeling I got. Mikey was never a tremendous talent, and never showed a huge amount of charisma prior to the genius gimmick Paul gave him, Tajiri, and Mitchell in ECW. So why sign the guy when there are twenty guys on the roster who can do just about the same thing? like i said, just to fuck with ECW. they took Saturn, Raven, Richards, the PE, Sandman, Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, Malenko, Misterio, Psicosis, Awesome, and Sabu (at first) just to show ECW that they could take anyone they wanted at any time. they were virtually saying "we got more money, more benefits and better recognition then you, and every star you make, we'll just pull out from under you, so nyah!" McMahon did the same thing. it's one of the main reasons ECW isn't around today (not to meniton that Heyman couldn't balance a check-book to save his life, but that's a whole nother diatribe). not that i'm bitter or anything!
Dewe Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 Mikey said on Trash Talking Radio that he basically doesn't have to work anymore because of the huge amount of money that he got from WCW. He wasn't even a midcarder there, but still he's financially secure. I guess you can't blame those who "sold out"...
Guest Your Olympic Hero Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 like i said, just to fuck with ECW. they took Saturn, Raven, Richards, the PE, Sandman, Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, Malenko, Misterio, Psicosis, Awesome, and Sabu (at first) just to show ECW that they could take anyone they wanted at any time. Don't forget Storm, Douglas, Spicolli, and Bigelow... and I'm sure there are more.
1234-5678 Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 I always thought Mikey was a good guy who could get over in ECW or on the idies, but would never transfer to the big 2. Now, we'll never know, because WCW didn't give hin the proper chance, but that was just always the feeling I had about him. With the right writing anyone can get over. For someone similar to Mikey's size, Spike Dudley was pretty over at the beginning of his run in WWE.
Placebo Effect Posted July 5, 2004 Report Posted July 5, 2004 Mikey said on Trash Talking Radio that he basically doesn't have to work anymore because of the huge amount of money that he got from WCW. He wasn't even a midcarder there, but still he's financially secure. I guess you can't blame those who "sold out"... Wow. And he got fired after less than a year.
BUTT Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I know that this going to sound really stupid, but I could swear I read somewhere that there was a rumor back in '99 that Mikey was going to be repackaged into a gimmick where he would dress up like a giant bottle of Surge (since WCW and Surge had that cross-promotional deal at the time). It sounds very far-fetched, but WCW did do a lot of weird stuff near the end.
Placebo Effect Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 You're not nuts. From a Scott Keith 1999 Thunder rant: - Speaking of the ECW rejects, a bizarre rumor on RSPWM said that WCW wants to repackage Mikey Whipwreck as a life-sized bottle of Surge. And you know what the sad part is? IT'D BE A STEP UP FOR HIM! God, you find some absolutely golden stuff while searching on Google groups.
nl5xsk1 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I don't think that WCW was stupid for making Mikey a heel, they just did it in an assbackwards way. If they could have found a way for him to keep his crazy-heel persona from ECW, it would have been fine.
Youth N Asia Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Mikey said on Trash Talking Radio that he basically doesn't have to work anymore because of the huge amount of money that he got from WCW. He wasn't even a midcarder there, but still he's financially secure. I guess you can't blame those who "sold out"... Wow. And he got fired after less than a year. He didn't get fired. He asked for his release. That was a little while after they said anyone who wanted to could leave, and Raven did. For a guy not blessed with much natural talent, he often managed to have great matches...yeah, I said great.
Placebo Effect Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I don't think that WCW was stupid for making Mikey a heel, they just did it in an assbackwards way. If they could have found a way for him to keep his crazy-heel persona from ECW, it would have been fine. Crazy-heel persona came after leaving WCW. I'm shocked Mikey asked for his release. They must've paid him a whole lot of fucking money for that year he was there. I'm sure his ECW paydays weren't bad for the year or so he was back there before the checks started to bounce, but regardless.
Youth N Asia Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 In his shoot interview he said the last straw was Evan Koragous winning the WCW Cruiser title...cause "this kid is ths shits." But you can pile that on top of just never being used.
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