Ebert and Roeper's Worst movies of

[Guest Arnold_OldSchool]

E and R said on their show this weekend that 2004's worst film's were:

 

 

White Chicks

 

 

New York Minute

 

 

I can't imagine to many here have seen NYM, but give your thoughts and opinions anyway. What movie would you choose.

[Boner Kawanger 0]

I don't see Van Helsing anywhere, so I disagree.

[Giuseppe Zangara 0]

Doesn't Ebert give every movie thumbs up/three stars, anyway.

[Guest The Winter Of My Discontent]

Doesn't Ebert give every movie thumbs up/three stars, anyway.

Obviously not White Chicks...

[AndrewTS 0]

Doesn't Ebert give every movie thumbs up/three stars, anyway.

He seems to for Scott Sommers films--Van Helsing and The Mummy both inexplicably recieved ***.

 

Yet he hated the first Spider-Man movie.

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Ebert went fucking nuts a loooooong time ago without Siskel to keep him grounded in the realms of sanity. The fact that he gave VAN HELSING *** more or less proves that he's lost his mind.

[Guest Choken One]

they also picked Kill Bill 2 as the best of the half year.

 

Clearly it was Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

[spiny norman 0]

Yeah, but Kill Bill 2 is in the top five so far, so I wouldn't say that's such a travesty.

 

You Got Served was pretty terrible.

[Nighthawk 0]

Unfortunately it seems that everyone I see raving about the Sunshine movie (I can't bring myself to say it's humiliating name) is gullible and very easily swayed by psuedo-authentic Hollywood's fake classics. I haven't seen it. I will. But it sounds typical.

[Guest Choken One]

No, incredible Direction and Acting is what my "gullible" self loved about it.

[bob_barron 0]

I saw New York Minute and save for a couple of good jokes about Ashley's character and the Bob Saget cameo- it was just awful. It was only 80 minutes long yet it seemed like 180. Just awful.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

Van Helsing wasn't terrible, just unoriginal, void of character development, and just highly non-enjoyable. I wasn't embarassed for having seen it, just not entertained and dissapointed.

[Mole 0]

Ebert has become a parody of himself. He never gives movies bad grades anymore and seems to like everything.

 

I can't trust him anymore, like I really could anyway in the past. I remember he gave Beavis and Butthead Do America *** back in the day.

[Placebo Effect 0]

Ebert has become a parody of himself. He never gives movies bad grades anymore and seems to like everything.

 

I can't trust him anymore, like I really could anyway in the past. I remember he gave Beavis and Butthead Do America *** back in the day.

That is an all-time American classic.

 

Yes, New York Minute, minus what Bob said, was terrible. Thank God for Internet downloading.

 

I'm watching White Chicks next.

[Nighthawk 0]

No, incredible Direction and Acting is what my "gullible" self loved about it.

That doesn't mean anything. What else would you be expected to think? And I didn't mention you by name, therefore your use of quotation marks is innapropriate.

[starvenger 0]

I saw New York Minute and save for a couple of good jokes about Ashley's character and the Bob Saget cameo- it was just awful. It was only 80 minutes long yet it seemed like 180. Just awful.

Man, when Bob Saget's the best thing about your movie...

[Kahran Ramsus 0]

I didn't see White Chicks, but it certainly looked like the worst movie of the year in previews. Even Crapwoman looks better.

 

Kill Bill was my favourite film of the year too. That I agree on.

[Mole 0]

I saw New York Minute and save for a couple of good jokes about Ashley's character and the Bob Saget cameo- it was just awful. It was only 80 minutes long yet it seemed like 180. Just awful.

Man, when Bob Saget's the best thing about your movie...

Woah, Bob Saget was in that movie? Did he talk about sucking dick for coke?

 

And Bob Barron saw the movie?

[godthedog 0]

Unfortunately it seems that everyone I see raving about the Sunshine movie (I can't bring myself to say it's humiliating name) is gullible and very easily swayed by psuedo-authentic Hollywood's fake classics. I haven't seen it. I will. But it sounds typical.

i'm a snooty little shit who can hardly be bothered to see anything that's even in the english language, much less something from hollywood, and i loved it.

[bob_barron 0]

I saw New York Minute and save for a couple of good jokes about Ashley's character and the Bob Saget cameo- it was just awful. It was only 80 minutes long yet it seemed like 180. Just awful.

Man, when Bob Saget's the best thing about your movie...

Woah, Bob Saget was in that movie? Did he talk about sucking dick for coke?

 

And Bob Barron saw the movie?

The Olsens are running throughout the city in towels as people look on. They run by Bob Saget, who stops, stares at them and shakes their head.

 

It was AWESOME.

 

I saw the movie with a friend- we're both HUGE Full House fans and we knew the movie would be absolutely terrible and I figured it'd be fun to just go and mock the shit out of the movie. And afterwards we snuck into Mean Girls for the 3rd time so it was all good.

[Mole 0]

Atleast you saw Mean Girls again. I recently just downloaded the movie and I forgot how funny it is. There are just little parts in it that crack me up.

 

Damian (driving away in the car, to Cady): I want my pink shirt back!

[Nighthawk 0]

i'm a snooty little shit who can hardly be bothered to see anything that's even in the english language, much less something from hollywood,

I've noticed that about you.

 

and i loved it.

 

So this does carry some weight. That's good.

 

Also, I didn't know Bob Saget was a symbiote. I have learned much from this thread.

[bob_barron 0]

Atleast you saw Mean Girls again. I recently just downloaded the movie and I forgot how funny it is. There are just little parts in it that crack me up.

 

Damian (driving away in the car, to Cady): I want my pink shirt back!

I've seen Mean Girls 4 times now. Plus I saw most of it on a bootleg a few weeks ago.

 

One problem with seeing it 4 times is the stuff I didn't like (The African fantasy scenes, Lindsay's speech with her dad) I REALLY don't like. Plus you start to notice a lot of plot holes.

 

But I still love it and think Tina did a wonderful job. I would've loved to have seen what Mean Girls would've been like had Tina been giving carte blache with the screenplay.

[iggymcfly 0]

I would've loved to have seen what Mean Girls would've been like had Tina been giving carte blache with the screenplay.

It probably would have been terrible since she and Jimmy Fallon KILLED Saturday Night Live. I haven't seen Mean Girls, nor do I plan to, but Tina Fey is the least funny person ever and I can't imagine she'd contribute anything positive.

[Eclipse 0]

I guess Ebert has no sense of humor. White Chicks was a pretty funny movie.

[bob_barron 0]

I would've loved to have seen what Mean Girls would've been like had Tina been giving carte blache with the screenplay.

It probably would have been terrible since she and Jimmy Fallon KILLED Saturday Night Live. I haven't seen Mean Girls, nor do I plan to, but Tina Fey is the least funny person ever and I can't imagine she'd contribute anything positive.

How did Tina and Jimmy KILL Saturday Night Live when the Fallon/Fey duo has brought nothing but positives to SNL. Since they took over (and specificially since Fey became head writer) SNL has seen ratings increases, critical acclaim (winning a writing Emmy for the first time in forever), renewed fan support, and a complete image makeover. Long thought of as a boys club filled with drugs and more drugs- Tina's reign at SNL has caused that to be thrown out the window.

 

Tina and Jimmy saved Weekend Update which was dying thanks to the viewers never taking to Colin Quinn and his awkward and stiff delivery.

 

Whether or not you like the quality of the show- saying Tina and Jimmy killed SNL is an incredibly stupid statement and is very far from the truth.

 

Tina has written many classic skits for SNL (Census Taker being her most famous) and the Fallon/Fey duo produced many memorable moments for SNL. They did not kill SNL in the slightest.

 

Saying Tina Fey is the least funny person ever when there are people like Maya Rudolph and Janeane Garafalo out there is a pretty dumb thing to say.

[the max 0]

It killed it for many people, bob.

 

Myself included, who had been watching SNL since...as long as I can remember. I don't anymore.

[bob_barron 0]

It killed it for many people, bob.

 

Myself included, who had been watching SNL since...as long as I can remember. I don't anymore.

But those people who have stopped watching have been replaced many times over since SNL has had nothing but ratings increases since Fey became head writer in 1999 and Fallon and Fey took over the Update desk in 2000.

 

While you may have stopped watching- the vast majority of people have not and in fact more people are watching now then have been which shows that Tina is doing something right.

 

People can blame the quality on Will Ferrell leaving which I think is a load of crap. Will sucked in his last year as he was lost w/o Adam McKay and had to rely on his old dated characters to get laughs and wasn't able to come up with anything inventive or Will-worthy. And one of SNL's best shows that year happened without him.

 

I've enjoyed the last two years despite some bumps in the road and the bumps can pretty much be blamed on:

 

Poor hosting choices (A tennis player, a race car driver and also ran Presidential candidate should not be hosting)

Pushing the wrong people (I think Lorne's attempts at making Maya Rudolph the next big thing were a complete and utter disaster that helped kill some shows)

Stupid recurring characters that get on over and over (Jarrett's Room, Versace, Second Time Around, Time Traveling with Scott Joplin, Brian Fellows)

 

Hopefully Lorne will make the right choice for the Update desk (Seth or Will with Seth being the preferred choice). With Dennis McNicholas and Michael Shur leaving along with Jimmy, SNL has lost some of its heavy hitters but if they give the ball to Will and Seth and keep crap like Maya in the background, the 2004-2005 season should be awesome. SNL has also shown that the one thing they can always make work is their biting political humour (thanks to Jim Downey) so the 2004 Presidential Election should be a big boost.

[Ravenbomb 0]

*Is apparently the only person who doesn't hate Ebert*

[godthedog 0]

i'm a snooty little shit who can hardly be bothered to see anything that's even in the english language, much less something from hollywood,

I've noticed that about you.

 

and i loved it.

 

So this does carry some weight. That's good.

huzzah. nice to know that i'm doing good for others with my higher standards.

 

*Is apparently the only person who doesn't hate Ebert*

i still like him. i could care less what his individual opinion of a given movie is, and i don't put much stock in what any one person says about a movie anyway. the man writes great reviews, and i enjoy reading them. he's easy to read, and he's generally good about backing up his shit with some kind of justification within the space limits of his column.

 

he's a hell of a lot better than somebody like peter travers, who i tend to agree with more, but who often gets so caught up in his own rhetoric that i'm left thinking, "wait a minute, his point was...what, exactly?" none of that shit from ebert.