Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 If he gets yet another fundraising bounce from the polls, though, he could possibly achieve financial parity with the Shrub. Especially since Bush has burned a ridiculous amount of money already.
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 If he gets yet another fundraising bounce from the polls, though, he could possibly achieve financial parity with the Shrub. Especially since Bush has burned a ridiculous amount of money already. Lurch actually is ahead of Bush, last I checked. -=Mike
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 In what, cash on hand? I'm positive Bush has raised more total money than Kerry, but it wouldn't surprise me if he pissed it all away with his damage control ads. Do you have a source for this? I'd be curious to see the actual numbers. I know Kerry broke fundraising records by carting his decaying ass around the nation nonstop last quarter, but I didn't actually see the numbers comparison.
CBright7831 Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Who would you want him to pick, CBright? Edwards is the best choice, imo. If he picked Gephardt most campaign stops would have to provide blankets and pillows. If he picked Vil-uhh, that guy from Iowa, most campaign stops would need 10 minutes of introducing someone nobody knows about. If he picked Hillary Kerry would probably be found in a park somewhere with a "suicide" note. Edwards was the best choice. UPDATE: Wow, he must really want to win the South. I don't think he'll "win" the South, but Kerry might have a chance to win, or at least compete, in a state or two down there... Actually when I said what I meant was, it's fightin' time.
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 In what, cash on hand? I'm positive Bush has raised more total money than Kerry, but it wouldn't surprise me if he pissed it all away with his damage control ads. Do you have a source for this? I'd be curious to see the actual numbers. I know Kerry broke fundraising records by carting his decaying ass around the nation nonstop last quarter, but I didn't actually see the numbers comparison. The piece I was reading (from the NY Times) was a little confusing. Kerry raised $180M and Bush raised $213M, but has $64M in the bank, so I have no clue how much Bush ACTUALLY has. -=Mike
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Yeah, that's what I mean. I haven't seen any definitive article or figures that explains any of this. I still have to imagine Bush has Kerry beat in fundraising, and thus, this announcement and how the media percieves it is critical to his campaign.
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 It's good that Kerry picked John Edwards over Adam West for the VP spot
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Meanwhile, the Evil Liberal Media has already struck in the favor of Edwards: http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/06/markets/el...wards/index.htm Wall Street no fan of Edwards Traders, favoring Bush team, dislike Edwards as VP but don't register displeasure -- yet. July 6, 2004: 12:05 PM EDT By Mark Gongloff, CNN/Money senior writer NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry's choice of a running mate may just help him win the election in November, and that could make Wall Street very nervous. Damn them!
Jobber of the Week Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I can't think of any VP that would have made the stock market happy except Warren Buffett, and he's probably got enough skeletons in his financial closet to avoid politics. Though it would be funny to see the people who howl over Soros have their heads explode on the sight of Buffett.
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I can't think of any VP that would have made the stock market happy except Warren Buffett, and he's probably got enough skeletons in his financial closet to avoid politics. Picking a tort lawyer isn't going to endear business to you. -=Mike
Jobber of the Week Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Picking a tort lawyer isn't going to endear business to you. -=Mike If you look, there's only one short paragraph in the whole article that says that they're nervous because he's a lawyer.
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Picking a tort lawyer isn't going to endear business to you. -=Mike If you look, there's only one short paragraph in the whole article that says that they're nervous because he's a lawyer. Oh, there's plenty of reasons outside of him being a scum-sucking lawyer to oppose David Cassidy. -=Mike
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 So, Edwards already gets a "nickname" from Mike. For some reason, I was confusing David Cassidy with David Crosby. Kerry/Crosby wouldn't work out too well, ticketwise.
NoCalMike Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 So Drudge was wrong, which is usually the case, however now we have to keep hearing from Dick Morris about how Hillary will now go on to sabatoge the Kerry/Edwards ticket so she can run in 2008......
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 NoCalMike, Hillary can still make Kerry withdraw at the convention, ya know.
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Drudge is at least as credible as the NY Times! He's never wrong. Kerry must've simply changed his mind since then!
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Drudge is at least as credible as the NY Times! He's never wrong. Kerry must've simply changed his mind since then! So, is the Drudge headline "KERRY FLIP-FLOPS, CHOOSES EDWARDS"?
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 No... The story is STILL DEVELOPING.......................................
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I just checked.. Drudge did bring out a fun "John Edwards is an evil liberal" RNC page
NoCalMike Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Drudge is at least as credible as the NY Times! He's never wrong. Kerry must've simply changed his mind since then! So, is the Drudge headline "KERRY FLIP-FLOPS, CHOOSES EDWARDS"? Well that is what the new Bush ad is going to argue, that Kerry somehow confirmed he wanted McCain and not only is Edwards a second choice, but another "flip-flop" ugh..
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 I'm sure that Bush can use the "Trial Lawyer" line too. Do they have "They can't beat our Dick" buttons yet?
Rob E Dangerously Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Wall Street has been negatively reacting to Edwards since last Thursday: http://ichart.yahoo.com/w?s=^DJI Oh yeah, last Wednesday, the Fed raised interest rates
Justice Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 Honestly, this is a solid choice. Perhaps not the best choice, but sometimes you just can't make the best choice. Harkin would have been good, but I think someone like Richardson (Who could have helped Kerry a lot in the Southwest) or Graham (Who could have ASSURED Kerry of Florida) would have been wiser. I don't think that Edwards will be as effective as most people are thinking he will be because: 1) He's only served one term in NC, right? I don't think that he really has the huge name recognition outside of those who watched the primaries to really open up the South. 2) He comes off, to me, as Geoffry Fieger with a Southern Accent. His trial lawyer background could come off really badly if the Bush campaign can find a controversial client or such with him. Not only that, but there's the old "Trial Lawyers raise health care costs" argument that is already being used against him. Of course, the charisma alone that he brings to the campaign for Kerry will certainly help him out.
Jobber of the Week Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 No... The story is STILL DEVELOPING....................................... You forgot this:
Jobber of the Week Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 CNN is loving this. "A Dewey defeats Truman from the New York Post, this Murdoch publication.. Let's show the apology their printed to keep the journalistic scales.... Okay, we here at the the New York Post incorrectly, blah blah blah..." He actually skipped over a huge chunk with "blah blah blah."
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 So Drudge was wrong, which is usually the case, however now we have to keep hearing from Dick Morris about how Hillary will now go on to sabatoge the Kerry/Edwards ticket so she can run in 2008...... All Drudge said was that insiders were saying this. He only reported what others said. -=Mike
Guest MikeSC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 2) He comes off, to me, as Geoffry Fieger with a Southern Accent. His trial lawyer background could come off really badly if the Bush campaign can find a controversial client or such with him. Not only that, but there's the old "Trial Lawyers raise health care costs" argument that is already being used against him. Of course, the charisma alone that he brings to the campaign for Kerry will certainly help him out. Well, his cases against ob/gyn's led to a massive increase in C-section births, which lead to a much higher percentage of major surgeries --- and there is scant evidence that this has actually helped anything. -=Mike
Guest BDC Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 The fact that Edwards is a first term guy kind of makes me wonder how much influence he'll have at drawing southern voters. The Pres is from Texas, so really, it seems to me that this is only going to reaffirm the grip on Southern Dems. Every little bit, I guess. Still "Just b/c he's from the South, Southerners will vote for him" seems a little bit off to me, always has.
Dr. Tyler; Captain America Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 The Pres is from Texas, so really, it seems to me that this is only going to reaffirm the grip on Southern Dems. Read an encyclopedia. He's not from Texas.
SuperJerk Posted July 6, 2004 Report Posted July 6, 2004 The Pres is from Texas, so really, it seems to me that this is only going to reaffirm the grip on Southern Dems. Read an encyclopedia. He's not from Texas. Bush lived in Texas, owned a baseball team in Texas, and was governor of Texas. I think that's close enough for most people. Its not like we're talking about Hillary. It's good that Kerry picked John Edwards over Adam West for the VP spot I've been waiting since 1988 for someone else to notice that resemblance. Thank you.
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