Eddie vs. Kurt

[Guest Anglesault]

it going?

 

Personally, depending on what the run at Summerslam (For the sake of my argument, I'll say JBL/Taker and Angle/Eddie, with Taker winning the belt) I can see Angle cheating to beat Eddie (to even up the series between the two) and moving on to win the belt from Undertaker next month, as Eddie runs through JBL to give him the final win in the feud.

 

Then In could see them building up for Angle/Eddie three at Mania (Possibly with a 10 man at SurSer-but no jobbers this year)

 

I have no idea how I would run that specific feud, because it's alot of time to stay away from another one on one match between the two. That's why I would have had Kurt come back at SurSer rather than Summerslam.

 

Anyone have an idea how it will end up?

[Guest Dumb Fuck]

Where I'd take it: Kurt, please retire.

 

Where it will go: Pretty much what you say... except Taker beats Kurt. Because he's Taker.

[Detox 0]

I like Angle give him a run its better than JBL

[Guest Anglesault]

Where I'd take it: Kurt, please retire.

 

Well, yeah. But Kurt's not that bright.

 

Where it will go: Pretty much what you say... except Taker beats Kurt. Because he's Taker.

 

Taker has been pretty decent with Angle after that 2000 year. I think he sees him as "just below" the upper tier, so he's alot more giving with him.

[Australian Pride 0]

What is the Smackdown schedule (in terms of PPV's) between now and WM21? If they have one per month then it will be very hard to hold that match off until March next year. A 10 man at SurSer should be on the cards, and as much as i dont like the idea of it there may be a Cena/Angle title match in there somewhere as well (possibly Royal Rumble)

[USC Wuz Robbed! 0]

What is the Smackdown schedule (in terms of PPV's) between now and WM21? If they have one per month then it will be very hard to hold that match off until March next year. A 10 man at SurSer should be on the cards, and as much as i dont like the idea of it there may be a Cena/Angle title match in there somewhere as well (possibly Royal Rumble)

Smackdown has:

 

Unforgiven, Survivor Series, Armageddon, Royal Rumble and that's it before Mania.

[Guest Anglesault]

and as much as i dont like the idea of it there may be a Cena/Angle title match in there somewhere as well (possibly Royal Rumble)

I'm not a big fan of the idea either, but if they can keep both guys focussed on the title aspect (I don't care if you have to put the figurative horse blinders on them, don't let EITHER one stray into comedy) they might not run the feud into the ground.

 

The match, on the other hand, I have no idea. Kurt may not be himself and Cena basically stopped trying months ago when he realized he no longer had to (Although the Taker match showed some promise). It could be No Mercy 03, or it could be a train wreck.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

I could give two fucks about this "rumored" match.

 

Angle and Eddie's characters are both lame and I already saw them go "all out" at WrestleMania. A rematch is stupid.

[BrokenTiger 0]

Kurt's negative energy/bitterness seems to be directed at Cena a bit moreso than Eddie.

...my scenario: how 'bout Angle vs Cena vs Eddie?

 

*realises he made a stupid suggestion* Well, I'm a newbie, what do I know.

[Guest JMA]

I would have Eddie beat Kurt due to interference by John Cena. This would set up the Angle and Cena in-ring feud and allow Eddie to move on. The Undertaker would destroy JBL and take the title. Eddie beats Bradshaw to finally end their feud and in doing so becomes the number one contender to Taker's title. They have a PPV match, which Eddie wins (thanks to cheating). JBL would win the tournament for the vacant US title and continue his annoying, nationalistic prick gimmick. Angle would go over Cena in their first PPV; mostly due to interference from the returning Big Show. Angle will bring back Show under the condition that he works for him now. Show will also want revenge on Cena for taking his US title and setting him on his losing streak. Cena will eventually get revenge on Angle by beating him one-on-one on a PPV and move onto a feud with Show.

 

Around this time, Angle will lose his GM position due to his lying about his injuries and the conflict of interest of having an active wrestler be in a position of power. Theodore Long will replace him as GM of Smackdown. Cena would win his feud with Show (although Show would get a few wins over Cena) and move onto a feud with the current US champion -- Bradshaw. Eddie would move onto a feud with Booker T. The Undertaker would stay out of the title picture but may feud with Show for a bit.

[Guest Anglesault]

Kurt's negative energy/bitterness seems to be directed at Cena a bit moreso than Eddie.

...my scenario: how 'bout Angle vs Cena vs Eddie?

It would ruin what could be a really killer Eddie/Kurt feud if they did it right (like they did for the month before Mania)

 

This isn't just because I feel that cena ruins most feuds. A third party shoehorned into Angle/Guerrero would weaken the main focus.

[Promoter 0]

I wouldn't be surprised if the wwe kept the belt on Bradshaw and build John Cena to the title shot at WrestleMania. Smackdown only has two singles ppv shows left? The reason I say this is that Cena was relieved of his title and I don't think Vince will put the title back on Taker. They might pull the Yoko/Luger SummerSlam '93 finish and use JBL as Yoko where they build Cena back up to take the title off him. This is not what I really like, but I could see this happening. I think they have already screwed up Eddie/Angle and I don't expect any great match with Angle's state. I wasn't that impressed with the WM match.

[Guest combat_rock]

Personally, I think the Eddie vs Angle match at Summerslam should be decisive, but if they want to have a Cena/Angle feud (and they obviously do), they can have Cena do the run-in at a Smackdown re-match.

[Vyce 0]

Jesus Christ - I can see them grooming Cena for the title, but having JBL keep the title until MANIA?!?! That's tantamount to madness.

[Guest Choken One]

I really can't fathom Bradshaw getting a 10 month.

 

Angle goes over Eddy at Summerslam thanks for the TBS returning...

 

Setting up an interesting dynamic...Angle,whom knowingly that he was going to lose his spot as a GM the second he signed to wrestle Eddy at Slam...made his last offical act as GM, to reinstate THE BIG SHOW but under the condition he works solely for Angle and Angle only (Luther Reigns kinda disappears from Kurt).

 

So, Eddy becomes Bloodthirsty to a all new height and wants Angle...BAD. TBS stands in his way...Bradshaw retains the WWE Title at 'Slam via DQ (No way will Taker give him that much of a rub).

 

John Cena, failing to win the US Title thanks to Kurt Angle at 'Slam for the vacant title to Booker T.

 

Paul Heyman's group, Jon Heidenrich and Charlie Haas (whom turns on Rico and Jackie joins with Haas)...Angle feeling the pressure of hiding from Cena AND Eddy...asks for Heyman's protection and rehires him as his agent.

 

Creating a Unit of Heinderich, Haas, Show (they make perfectly clear that TBS still works exclusively for Angle, not Heyman), Angle.

 

Booker T goes on a feuds with RVD over the US Title.

 

 

Unforgiven is

 

Bradshaw/UT II (Casket Match)

Eddy Guerrero/TBS

Booker/RVD

Cena/Haas

 

Bradshaw retains the title again by the help of Team Heyman. Eddy takes out TBS (slowly setting up the scenario where Angle suspects Show of purposely sabotaging his jobs to get fired). Booker retains, Cena overcomes large interference to beat Haas.

 

So basically Smackdown is this...

 

Eddy/Cena/RVD Vs Team Heyman.

 

Survivor Series is booked and Eddy still can't get his hands on Angle, whom constantly pulls a steiner and gets the doctor's clause....however they set up a 5 vs 5 Series match

 

Eddy, Cena, RVD, Kidman and London

Vs

Angle, Haas, Show, Heidenrich and Bradshaw.

 

It comes down to Eddy pinning Bradshaw as the Sole Survivor.

 

Angle however managed to avoid Cena and Eddy all night save for one bump from Cena before forcing TBS to leave with him(Cena chases) thus Counting out those three...putting Bradshaw alone to face Eddy,RVD and London. He gets rid of RVD and London but can't get Eddy.

 

Three weeks later...Eddy is hit with a dilemna...He can choose either Kurt Angle or JBL for the title Match. Cena pushes for Eddy to go for the title so he can get his hands on Angle, Eddy takes offense and they go to blows...Angle convinces whoever the new GM is that Eddy and Cena are the #1 and #1 contenders for the title and should face each other at Armageddon for the title shot. It's fine with the GM but Angle messes up as he tries to get himself an actual shot at the title against Bradshaw and accidently gets TBS a slot.

 

So, TBS plays Andre to Angle's Dibiase. he techicnally owns the title since he owns TBS.

 

However, Bradshaw is basically a tweener at this point because he too doesn't like Angle but however with 2 weeks left before the show, RVD recieves a shot simply because he beat Bradshaw in a non-title match (in which Angle accidently fucked up in an attempt to reconcile differences with Bradshaw). This makes it a 3 Way Dance...Making Angle really nervous.

 

RVD wins the Title Match when Angle starts yelling at TBS and TBS angry at Angle slaps and attacks Him and chases him around and in doing so, Eddy whom recently went over Cena, chases out and hits TBS and Angle with a set of chair shots...and clotheslines out Bradshaw to give RVD the 5* Splash for the win.

 

The Rumble Comes around and Angle decides to avoid Cena in singles comp (eddy is already forced to face RVD thanks to the stip) and announces he is a participant in the rumble and volunteers to be #1 (basically doing this so he knows he can easily eliminate himself by the time cena would to come out) but the new Gm decides it must be fair and books a 4 Way Dance to determine who gets to choose their number. Angle, Mysterio, TBS and Booker. TBS basically does everything for Angle and then Angle asks him to lay down...TBS finally snaps and attacks and wins the match himself. He chooses #30. Angle is forced to chance his luck with the draw.

 

Eddy basically Makes it clear, He just wants ONE match with Angle as he wins the title via thanks to the remaining members of Team Heyman ineptness. Angle isn't happy about this, he wants to win the match but if he does...he'll be forced to face Eddy and he doesn't want that and the new gm mandates if he attempts to eliminate himself or have his team mates eliminate him, he'll be suspended.

 

Angle gets a piss poor draw of #9 and he basically is a target for everyone. He tries all the cheap stuff, hides under the ring. walks around the ring, holds the bottom rope...finally #21 comes out and it's Cena. Angle does the bug eye austin reaction...panics and hides behind his partners Haas (#18) and Heidenrich (#20) They go after him and he double eliminates them. Cena finally gets his hands on Angle and goes to town on him. They continue to brawl around the ring area and stage as it is empty at that point...the ring fills back up. Angle (bloody) saunters down to the ring as just as he passes the front stage, it's #30.

 

Angle does another "fuck no" reaction and knows the big show is right behind him and expects an attack but TBS simply walks past him.Angle is confused. Cena re-enters shortly after this...the ring...full...thins down to 4(1 raw) angle,cena and TBS.

 

Angle basically tries to force the Raw worker to toss him over but the guy won't. TBS eliminates the other guy. Cena and TBS mock angle a little until suddenly TBS laughs at and knocks down Cena and tosses him over...Angle with a huge grin smiles and goes over to cena and laughs and basically dares him to pull him out...But TBS goes over to try to shove him over and finish his job...Cena pulls TBS over instead and that Leaves Angle as the WINNER of the Royal Rumble.

 

Eddy comes out with a grin on the stage and Angle realizes...He's fucked.

 

They build it up to WMXXI for Angle/Guerrero III.

 

Angle finally gets what he had coming and Guerrero wins.

[Jobber of the Week 0]

Angle (...) win the belt from Undertaker

You're on drugs. You have to be.

[iggymcfly 0]

OK, Kurt Angle is not Vince McMahon. There's no way he should want to lose the Royal Rumble, because he's scared of Eddie Guerrero of all people. Kurt Angle is one of two instantly credible heels in the WWE, and that scenario would make me sick.

 

Also, I'd say that if Eddie and Angle main evented last year's Mania on the Smackdown side, and have a high-profile, quasi-main event match at Summerslam, they should not main event next year's Mania. It's just too repetititve.

 

If you're going to have Angle act afraid of anyone, it should be Big Show, since he's the one that injured him, even if he was milking it a little storyline-wise. I say, let Angle run through programs with Eddie and Cena, and then maybe a quick title program with Taker over the next 6-8 months. All along, he can subtly avoid Big Show, trying to stay out of matches against him and the like. Then, a month or two before WM, let him finally stand up to Big Show, turning face, and making the Angle/Show match one of the main events for Wrestlemania.

 

In the meantime, I'd make sure to get the title off of JBL, as he just screams lame duck champion. Either Taker should beat JBL within the next month or two, or Eddie should quickly and decisively win his feud with Angle at Summerslam, and then get the title off of JBL the next month.

[Guest combat_rock]

I was with you up till the point where you said Angle should turn right befoe Wrestlemania. I mean, the guy's turned too many times already. Have him remain heel untill WM XXII before you even THINK of turning him back face. Just let Angle and Show have a heel/heel feud to settle their obvious issuses. I know WWE thinks the universe will explode if people of the same alignment feud, but it could work. It makes sense. There's no reason for EITHER to suddenly be a fan favorite, but there is reason for them to fight.

[King Cucaracha 0]

To be honest, the only thing I ask from this is tha the match is different from the Mania match. It was a good match, don't get me wrong. But considering the heat the feud had, the heat that focused Angle had...the match they put on just didn't have the kind of passion or fire to make it work. Why would they technical wrestle each other when for the past weeks they wanted to tear each other apart?

 

As long as they play the match to the feud, then I'm happy.

 

 

As for where it's going...I could see it going to Mania, because the only other thing for Angle to do at the moment (storyline wise) is go after Cena, and he's busy with Suzuki, Booker etc.

 

But I'm still for what we were talking about last year. Have Angle and Eddie feud through the rest of the year, without making it too reptitive. Give Taker the belt rather than Bradshaw, but probably not at Summerslam.

 

Anyway, Eddie enters the Rumble and Angle then enters himself, vowing to take out Eddie once and for all and ruin his dreams of becoming champion again. Angle draws an early number, and basically plays the Flair role in that he's cowardly but not too cowardly. He makes it to just before number 26(ish) enters before finally Shawn Michaels dumps Angle out...right before Eddie enters.

 

Eddie goes on and wins the Rumble to get the title shot. Angle obviously isn't happy, and wrangles a way to trade HBK to Smackdown before challenging him to a match at Mania. We then get a two month build, and the Angle/Shawn match that'd get people interested.

[Guest combat_rock]

I like that, but I do think they need to throw in some conclusion to Angle's problems with Big Show and John Cena, and Eddie needs some conclusion with Bradshaw. WWE is really bad right now with not delivering the conclusion of their angles.

 

Anyway, I like the plan for the Rumble, but I'd put Jericho in the HBK role. He'd be a better fit for Smackdown, as he's never going to be pushed as he should on Raw.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Jericho would be good, but it's more that HBK/Angle is really one of the few new matches left for Angle that'd mean anything.

 

As for Show/Angle, there's enough time between Summerslam and the Rumble to settle that, so that Eddie/Angle doesn't become too stale. Cena/Angle and Bradshaw/Eddie can be tied up pretty quickly on Smackdowns after Summerslam.

[Guest Birds in the Hotel]

Angle (...) win the belt from Undertaker

You're on drugs. You have to be.

I'm not so sure. I could see it. Taker would drop the belt to Kurt.

[iggymcfly 0]

Angle's made both Hogan and Brock tap out clean. I really don't think the Undertaker would have a problem putting him over.

 

Now, JBL is a totally different story. I think that in the best interest of the business, Taker should refuse to put him over. The guy's done nothing to earn his spot, and it would be downright ridiculous for him to win clean.

[Just call me Dan 0]

I'd be willing to bet that The rock will have a smackdown program for next year's Rumble/Mania. That may add some much needed life to the mix and make things more interesting. I think Angle/Rock needs to be run again since they haven't had much of any feud since 2000.

[Guest Choken One]

Nah...I'm convinced HHH wants Rock in Hollywood.

 

That would be the ultimate fuck you to The Rock for HHH to do. To beat Rock in front of his people and his crowd.

 

but since rock has authority he will likely just do another legends match...likely Shawn.

[Guest Anglesault]

Angle (...) win the belt from Undertaker

You're on drugs. You have to be.

I think Angle is the one guy on the show Taker would lose to

[Lt. Al Giardello 0]

The guy's done nothing to earn his spot,

I wouldnt say that. Bradshaw has been in th WWE/WWF since 1996. Longer then most main eventers.

[Guest Anglesault]

The guy's done nothing to earn his spot,

I wouldnt say that. Bradshaw has been in th WWE/WWF since 1996. Longer then most main eventers.

Longevity doesn't really count. The Brawler would have almost everyone trumped.

[Guest Trivia247]

The guy's done nothing to earn his spot,

I wouldnt say that. Bradshaw has been in th WWE/WWF since 1996. Longer then most main eventers.

Longevity doesn't really count. The Brawler would have almost everyone trumped.

If tenure truly mattered Holly and Gunn would be added to the Main event ranks

 

Shudders

[Guest combat_rock]

The guy's done nothing to earn his spot,

I wouldnt say that. Bradshaw has been in th WWE/WWF since 1996. Longer then most main eventers.

Longevity doesn't really count. The Brawler would have almost everyone trumped.

If tenure truly mattered Holly and Gunn would be added to the Main event ranks

 

Shudders

Can't forget, Holly actually was for the Royal Rumble *shudders*

 

And with Billy Gunn, it wasn't for lack of Vince TRYING to push the guy.