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When you smoke, you're immediately in a social group. Smokers always need stuff from each other.

 

EDIT: I do not smoke myself. This is purely based on observation.

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Guest Dumb Fuck

Tough decision.

 

1) Don't smoke... and preserve my life for years, don't have breathing problems, don't smell like shit...

 

or...

 

2) Gain friends who I can only talk to because they have an addiction to smoking.

 

I think we all can make enough friends... and much better friends by not falling into #2.

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I've had a lot of family die of smoke related things. I'm not a heavy smoker. I go through a pack a week normally.

 

I smoke normally when I'm stressed, I know it's a bad thing to do but It's something I've never ever been able to quit.

 

Smokers don't deserve special rights but I think that the lengths some people go to to put down smokers is just as bad as a lot of things smokers do.

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Guest Dumb Fuck

I think it's right to put down smokers, because it's absolutely disgusting doing that in public.

 

I could never ever get involved with some guy that smoked. The smell is just repulsive.

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"I don't like what you do so you're obviously a bad person"

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I smoke a lot recently (Kamel Reds) but coming back to the whole "man smokers are fucking inconsiderate." In a way I agree you should be able to just move if it really bothers you... not to put non-smokers into a conscending poistion but still. Anyway I always ask when I'm around non-smoking friends if they care, in a car, and if there's a crowd I won't bother because I don't want to get them bitchy.

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Guest The Winter Of My Discontent

Smoking makes old ladies look 60 years older than their actual age. Its a hazard to their beauty more than anything. I can handle the smoke and shit. Smoked a bit in grade 9 but I equate that to smply wanting to be cool. Then I found alcohol.

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I think it's right to put down smokers, because it's absolutely disgusting doing that in public.

 

I could never ever get involved with some guy that smoked.  The smell is just repulsive.

Smokers don't realise how much it reeks because it fucks up their sense of smell, so I can't really blame them for wandering around naievely stinky. I don't talk down to smokers, but the amount of times that I'm walking down the street and have to hold my breath is becoming ridiculus (It's not just the smell, or me doing it to be a knob, smoke fucks with my sinuses and makes me sneeze all day.) If you are smoking in my face i'll ask you to not, or to blow away. I used to get all uppety about it but I'm over that now. But smokers must realise how annoying it is to be having a conversation with someone and smelling rancidity and getting smoke blown in your eyes. That's why those little social groups of smokers form, because non-smokers choose not to be in that environment becuase it's horrible.

 

....and no one smokes in my car.....EVER!

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I too have had family members die from something related to their smoking. I could never touch the stuff, partially because of this, and also because I'm not an idiot. I, too, could never date someone who smoked. I think it's one of the biggest turn-offs possible.

 

I can't believe the amount of people who are saying "if somebody finds my smoking is irritating them, they should move away". And then argue when someone says smokers are a bunch of selfish pricks.

 

Honestly, it's your choice if you smoke. But don't consider yourself to be in some position of society where you should be given privileges due to smoking. I have sympathy for those people who are 60-odd and did not know better at the time and have thus become addicted. But in this day and age, when you know the risks, I think you'd have to be a bloody idiot to smoke. And moreso if you think other people should have to go out of their way to ensure not to passive smoke and not the other way around.

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I would choose smoking over anything else you sat in front of me of equal monetary value, and DEFINITELY over things like family, health, kids, shit like that.

 

I will smoke until I die, have done so since I was 12, and I love every single puff, cough, and ash on my pantleg. I will smoke whereever I please, and fuck anyone who has a problem with this. Beat me up if you don't like it, but you're crazy if you try to take a buring peice of plant and paper away from a loon.

 

I like smoking so much that I deal with cigarettes for a living. I encourage anyone to start, because really...who gives a shit? Do you really want to live that long? I don't. I wouldn't go jump off a roof or shoot myself, but things that could cause long term damage that'll kill me on my 55th birthday. Bring 'em on, if they're fun.

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My body doesn't get enough oxygen for some reason and being in large areas of smoke causes me to have sudden fits of...well...death. Am I allowed to dislike people smoking around me?

You're entirely allowed to. You're also allowed to not go over to a group of people if many of them are smoking, and are allowed to ask people around that if they do smoke to move away until they are finished. We're really not as big of assholes at LotC is making us out to be. If you ask us to either put a cigarette out or move away and finish it, most of us will. Try it sometime.

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I don't care if people smoke around me; I just think they're stupid for being addicted to something that tastes so awful.

 

Retards.

Tobacco is an accquired taste, like beer. I personally think cigarettes (good ones) are delicious. What kind of cigarette did you try?

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My body doesn't get enough oxygen for some reason and being in large areas of smoke causes me to have sudden fits of...well...death. Am I allowed to dislike people smoking around me?

You're entirely allowed to. You're also allowed to not go over to a group of people if many of them are smoking, and are allowed to ask people around that if they do smoke to move away until they are finished. We're really not as big of assholes at LotC is making us out to be. If you ask us to either put a cigarette out or move away and finish it, most of us will. Try it sometime.

Please cite the part where I call smokers "assholes".

 

Because I'm looking and I can't find it.

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Nobody's telling you to NOT smoke, guys. Non-smokers should shut the fuck up, because smokers are obviously making a conscious decision. Next time you taste alcohol? Realize that alcohol fucks up your system worse than smoking. Next time you eat a steak? Remember the cholesterol, bitch. And, if you're a vegitarian? Keep in mind that you're probably a lot less healthy than a lot of smokers still, because at least we eat balanced diets, more often than not.

 

Snooch to the motherfucking nooch.

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Please cite the part where I call smokers "assholes".

 

Because I'm looking and I can't find it.

Please cite the part where I said you called smokers "assholes."

 

I'm looking, and I can't find it.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion

Smokers don't eat balanced diets any more often than non smokers. I'm probably a rare example, really. Where'd you get that from?

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It's a generalization saying we're healthier for some reason, just like "if you're a smoker you're going to die of a cancer." If you're a non-smoker you're probably going to die of a cancer too. Now shut the fuck up.

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I was very tempted to come with sarcasm rivaling cwm's, but I won't.

 

I'll just say that it's not for everyone. You tried it once and didn't like it. Hey, it's not for you. The first time I tried beer I thought it tasted like ass, but I eventually came around. That's not to say you'll come around on smokes, but if I still thought beer tasted awful, you wouldn't catch me saying something like "how can alcoholics be addicted to something that tastes like piss".

 

Bottom line: if it's not for you, it's not for you. Don't buy them and move on with your life.

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Nobody's telling you to NOT smoke, guys. Non-smokers should shut the fuck up, because smokers are obviously making a conscious decision. Next time you taste alcohol? Realize that alcohol fucks up your system worse than smoking. Next time you eat a steak? Remember the cholesterol, bitch. And, if you're a vegitarian? Keep in mind that you're probably a lot less healthy than a lot of smokers still, because at least we eat balanced diets, more often than not.

 

Snooch to the motherfucking nooch.

That is the worst argument for anything that I have ever heard. It's all........ wrong. Alcohol has very few long term concequences, the liver can take 20 years of binge drinking without failing showing almost any sign of damage. Eat all the steak you want, it has nothing to do with your cholesterol. We make our own cholesterol. Vegetarians are much healthier than the rest of the population. Smokers also generally have worse diets due to SES (Smokers tend to be poorer, or poor people tend to smoke more, also less educated, all of which leads to poorer diets).

 

Also, AoO. It's not so much that smoking kills you that worries people, it's HOW it kills you. You seem to talk about smoking as if it suddenly will kill you when you're 55. It may kill you then, but it will be after 10 years of COPD (I can't honestly think of a worse way to die) Emphysema and the like are EXTREMELY common among smokers and they kill you very very very slowly and usually begins in peoples early 30's with heavy smokers. These people spend YEARS of their lives confind to a wheelchair and unable to move more than 1 step at a time and that's with oxygen therapy and loads of drugs.

 

Which brings up another of my anti-smoking points. Smokers have a HUGE burden of disease, costing billions of dollars and hundreds of hospital bed days which could go to patients with diseases which they did NOT force upon themselves. It's a complete ignorance of their selfishness that gets me. Smoking doesn't just affect you, it hurts the comunity as a whole to the tune of billions of dollars in lost productivity, and takes away services from other people who need them!

 

I will smoke until I die, have done so since I was 12, and I love every single puff, cough, and ash on my pantleg. I will smoke whereever I please, and fuck anyone who has a problem with this. .

 

You complete knob. People who have this attitude in anything they do come off as complete selfish, arrogant fuckwits. Smoking only makes them look worse because of the damage it causes to other people. Show some consideration for other people.

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Show some consideration for other people

 

HAHAHAHAHA

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