RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2004 The PRIDE card just-may-be the best since...well... Final Conflict 2003. And the UFC card has the potential to be great. Both events are aired the same weekend (The PRIDE card is on -EUGH- 1 week delay), which should make for some happy-fun. The highlights for me are Belfort/Couture, Liddell/Vern, Diaz/Parisyan, Edwards/Thomson, Fedor/Ogawa, Nog/Sergei, Cro Cop/Alek, Silva/Kondo... shit, that's 8 matches that I really wanna see. EIGHT! Holy Crap! That makes me wanna HUSTLE! (HUSTLE!)... ON THE WITH CARDS~! Fight Card: Vitor Belfort vs. Randy Couture for the Light Heavyweight Championship Chuck Liddell vs. Vernon White Matt Lindland vs. David Terrell Mike Kyle vs. Justin Eilers Nick Diaz vs. Karo Parisyan Yves Edwards vs. Josh Thomson Joe Doerksen vs. Joe Riggs (Sunday, August 22nd) Tournament Matches: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Naoya Ogawa Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera vs. Sergei Kharitonov Kevin Randleman vs. Ron Waterman (alternate bout) Non-Tournament Matches: Middleweight Championship - Wanderlei Silva vs. Yuki Kondo Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic vs. Aleksander Emelianenko Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Murilo Bustamante Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord of The Curry 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2004 I'll watch for the Fedor. I'll stay for the Hustle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2004 I'm looking forward to every single match on the Pride show, that says something. What's the deal with pairing Ogawa with Fedor though? Are the Japanese THAT delusional? I think the other way would have produced 2 better matches with Nog/Og ground war and Fedor/Khar slugfest. Oh well. UFC should be pretty good too, but like most of their shows I'll need to familiarize myself with some of their undercarders, since they insist on only a couple big matches per show. Couture/Belfort is the match I wanted to see last time and will freak out if another fluke thing happens that prevents it from getting going. I don't know much about Tiger White but I'm assuming Chuck will plow through him. Nick Diaz vs. Karo Parisyan should be fun. Why is Kyle invited back after that crap he pulled with Wes Simms? Simms should at least get a grudge rematch. Otherwise, the rest of the guys I'll have to get to know. And, wait no Georges St. Pierre this time?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2004 I'd tell you about the undercard guys, but that'd cut into my laying around time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CurryMan Report post Posted August 3, 2004 I really thought that Ogawa would face Nog because they didn´t want his face crushed against Fedor ot Kar... Can´t spell the damn names Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2004 I really thought that Ogawa would face Nog because they didn´t want his face crushed against Fedor ot Kar... Can´t spell the damn names Maybe it will be another semi-work like Silva/Yoshida. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CurryMan Report post Posted August 3, 2004 I doub´t that it will be a work but I can bet alot of money that ppl at forums everywhere will cry for a work if Ogawa get in anything on Fedor. It´s really a loss loss thing for pride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted August 3, 2004 A little info on the UFC first timers participating in the next event: Joe Doerkson Team Extreme 25-5 Notable wins: Lee Murray (submission/ RNC), John Alessio (submission/ RNC), Denis Kang (submission/ triangle choke), Chris Leben (JD) Notes: Entertaining, submission-oriented fighter with improved stand-up skills. Has been long overdue for a UFC shot in many people's eyes. After a three fight losing streak against former Superbrawl champion Egan Inoue, and Canada's Stephan Potvin & David Louiseau, he's been on an unbeaten 10-0 tear, the highlight being his Superbrawl 30, 8-Man tournament win (slightly marred by Denis Kang's injury and withdrawal). Joseph "Diesel" Riggs Arizona Combat Sports 18-5 Notable wins: Andy Montana (submission/strikes), Alan Sullivan (submission/armbar), John Renken (KO) Notes: G&P fighter w/ some submission and stand-up skills, though excelling at none. One of many Arizona natives to get something of a bloated record in the local RITC shows (the mostnotable being Homer "Rock" Moore), he's amongst the best Arizona has to offer, but like many of his statesmen, has failed to break through with wins over fighters on the next echelon, including Rodney Faverus, Wesley Correira, & Alex Steibling. However, it should be that he formerly fought at 205lbs, and many of his losses have been to guys a deal bigger than himself. Has also racked five straight KO wins over lesser comptition since hte beginning of the year. Justin Eilers Miletich Fighting Systems/ Team Extreme 8-2 Notable wins: Jonathan Ivey (submission/strikes), Rocky Batastini (TKO), Vince Lucero (TKO/ shoulder injury) Notes: G&P/ stand-up fighter. Not to knock Eilers or any retards in the UFC head office, but they're REALLY reaching for heavyweight fighters now. Eilers biggest "accomplishment" was a close decision loss to Correira in a fight many thought he won. Aside, from that, wins over mostly out-of-shape and overmatched fighters. David Terrell Cesar Gracie Jiu-Jitsu 4-1 Notable Wins: Osami Shibuya (submission/RNC), Yuki Sasaki (KO), Joey Villasenor (submission/armbar) Notes: Amongst America's best Jiu jitsu stylists, finishing 3rd at ADCC 2003 in the 87kg class, beating Akira Shoji, Fernando Margarida & Ricardo Almeida. Relatiely inactive in MMA for many years, he recently made a comeback in the Pancrase circuit and impressively dispatched long-time gatekeeper Osami Shibuya and KO'ed struggling Grabaka member Yuki Sasaki. Definitely has the toughest match of the UFC newcomers, but is also the one generating the most curiosity and excitement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AboveAverage484 0 Report post Posted August 5, 2004 Busta vs. Nakamura rounds out the card. Looks like Nakamura's getting the new Saku push, only difference is he loses against top competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CurryMan Report post Posted August 5, 2004 The promotion announced their final 8/15 Saitama Super Arena card line-up. 1. Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Murillo Bustamante 2. PRIDE GP: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Sergei Kharitonov 3. PRIDE GP: Naoya Ogawa vs. Emelianenko Fedor 4. PRIDE GP Reserve Fight: Kevin Randleman vs. Ron Waterman 5. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic vs. Emelianenko Alexander 6. Vanderlei Silva vs. Yuki Kondo (both guys have promised to finish each other off with knees) 7. PRIDE GP 2004 tournament finals : http://www.puroresupower.com I´m so looking forward to this seeing how this card is going to look in real because on paper it looks awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted August 6, 2004 The lineup for these two cards are just incredible. You have four of the top five five lightheavyweights, the top two heavyweights, four great middleweights (Kondo is really a middleweight to me), the top two lightweights in the UFC, plus exciting guys throughout the top ten of their divisions like Diaz, Kharitonov, and Cro Cop, and wild cards like White, Emelianenko Alexander, Randelman, and of course Ogawa(HUSTLE! HUSTLE!). These cards are stacked, and most of the fights have meaning to them. Who is the top dog in the UFC at lightweight, can Vitor beat Randy without a fluke or has father time caught up to Couture, does Japan finally have the fighter in Kondo it has been looking for to stop Silva or will Wanderlei continue his path of destruction, will Liddell do to White what he did to Sobral or will he come in sluggish and get dropped hard, how will Cro Cop respond facing Fedor's "little" brother, and of course the conclusion of the heavyweight tournament itself. Will Nog be to crafty for Kharitonov or will Kharitonov follow the Fedor blueprint and maul him, is Fedor really a cyborg sent from the future to destroy all set before him, or will Ogawa be able to HUSTLE his way to if not a victory atleast a respectful showing. Who will meet in the finals? So many questions that I need answers to. Man I love being a MMA fan right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Shooto's LW division > UFC's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Maybe, we will find out at the upcoming lightweight tournament in Atlantic City. Gomi, Hansen, and Pulver are all great, but I wouldn't make them overwhelming favorites against Edrwards, Thompson, or Franca. Honestly depending on the matchups I would probably pick the UFC guys. Edwards has a more well rounded stand up game than Pulver, I like Thompson over Hansen in a great fight, and Franca versus Gomi would be a classic. Don't forget and don't forget about Matt Serra. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lei Tong 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Franca actually signed to fight in Shooto against Hansen(though had to pull out due to pasport problems, IIRC), so you can chalk him up for them as well. Also, Pulver fights at 143lbs. now, so him as a LW doesn't mean as much anymore. And in the Atlantic city tourney, UFC's only real representative is Edwards. Also, even including the UFC's best (and seemingly only regular) LW's in Thompson, Yves & Serra, the overall quantity AND qaulity of Shooto's LW division is much higher. Both Thompson & Edwards' biggest wins have been close JD victories over Hermes (Edwards' could've VERY easily gone the other way), with most of their other wins coming over smaller fry. As for Serra, he's had mixed success, beating Yves & some 143 pounders, but losing to Din & Penn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CurryMan Report post Posted August 6, 2004 Does anyone now a page where you can d/l highlights from a fighter except the page at sherdog? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AmericanDragon 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2004 10mbit-1.myftp.org on dc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CurryMan Report post Posted August 6, 2004 yeah I know dc and IRC but I was thinking of a page I work night here and I don´t really have much to do and I was thinking of d/l some nice hightlight stuff to watch during the night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted August 7, 2004 I don't think Fedor is from the future. He's clearly from the past. I'm thinking there were a race of men in what-is-now-known-as Siberia who were stronger and smarter than "regular" homo sapiens and ungodly good at fighting. When the Ice Age happened, they were frozen and most of them died. However, Fedor -much like Cro and Frozen Caveman Lawyer and, of course, Encino Man- was able to survive and was thawed out in the mid-80's by ambitious Russian scientists. The scientists turned him over to the government who soon discovered Fedors super-human abilities and trained him in their deadliest art - SAMBO. He took a liking to boxing as well and began developing his own style of poundage. When the Cold War was over and the Soviet Union dissolved, Fedor had to find a place in the world. He got married, had a kid, and for a while he lived a normal life. But his nature compelled him to return to fighting and he wound up in PRIDE alongside others of his kind; Wanderlei Silva, Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera, and Naoya Ogawa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted August 7, 2004 Wow I didn't know Franca was with Shoto now. Big loss for the UFC, because I agree with you that Franca could have easily been given the decision or a draw in either of those fights that he lost. As far as Fedor I still believe that he is from the future or an alternate universe. Nothing human past or present could survive the suplex he took from Randelman without being atleast stunned. Hell 99.5% couldn't take it and still have their spinal cord in tact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NCJ Report post Posted August 15, 2004 Do you want me to post spoilers for the Grand Prix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted August 16, 2004 NO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites