Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Jansen's injury last night started the newest wave of complaining about the NFL preseason. Personally I could see reducing it to 2 games but that's mostly because the games are boring as hell. Guys get injured of course but you run that risk with every activity you have the team do. Guys get hurt in practice and in some guys cases tripping over an animal getting out of bed. So what's everyone's opinion on the preseason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Other than young guys fighting for roster spots, preseason is pretty much worthless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 They will never shorten the preseason it makes too much money. If they do shorten the preseason then they would just add the games to the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Barkley said preseason is just a way to screw over the fans, and he's right in that aspect. But, imo, the NFL preseason is fine. Would Gibbs want Jansen hurt in Week 1 of the regular season instead?... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 The preseason should be two games. There's no reason that grown men getting paid millions of dollars a year need more than two games to learn the system and get in shape (and they should already be in shape when they arrive to camp). Colleges don't play four bloody exhibition games a season. It's a way to make easy money off the fans, but if prominent players keep getting hurt in meaningless games, the owners may need to reevaluate that equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Just expand the rosters a little bit and let all backups play the last game or two... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Preseason games shouldn't be televised, or used as money-making exhibtions. They should be used as a way to find "diamonds in the rough" such as low-round draft picks or undrafted free agents. Teams should keep their star players off the field, and have the games just be between the second & third stringers and bubble players that might not make the team. And the pre-season games should be free for season ticket holders, with the extra tickets available to the general public at a small cost. I agree with the preseason games in principle: a way to determine which players will help the team win. But I don't agree with what the games have become: glorified exhibitions that really don't do much more than put money in the owners pockets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted August 10, 2004 I honestly wouldn't mind if there was no preseason. Just expand camp, it's not like I'll miss retarded exhibitions I don't even watch in the first place. another solution is to kill all the people who pay to see preseason games, so they won't further infect the gene pool with their stupidity. This would solve a number of other social ills, by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 10, 2004 The preseason should be two games. There's no reason that grown men getting paid millions of dollars a year need more than two games to learn the system and get in shape (and they should already be in shape when they arrive to camp). Colleges don't play four bloody exhibition games a season. It's a way to make easy money off the fans, but if prominent players keep getting hurt in meaningless games, the owners may need to reevaluate that equation. The guys who need preseason games aren't the ones who get paid "millions of dollars a year." Preseason is for the guys who are trying to make the team, not the stars. And the games aren't to get them in shape; that is what practice is for. The games are so the coaches can see how they react in more realistic game situations, something you can't recreate in practice. So, yeah, preseason is necessary, and it should be about 2 or three games. However, I don't think NFL teams should charge as much for tickets. They should charge SOMETHING, because they're still going to have concessions and what-not, but maybe something like one-half or one-third of a regular season ticket price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 another solution is to kill all the people who pay to see preseason games, so they won't further infect the gene pool with their stupidity. This would solve a number of other social ills, by the way. I know in Philly, at least, you don't get a choice. The season ticket plan comes with those two games included. I don't fault the fans since they are getting screwed over. The preseason really doesn't need to be more than two games. The only realistic arguement is for the lower level guys to show their stuff, but honestly how many positions are actually open for competition among the lower level guys anyway. Looking at the Eagles, as an example, I could probably go down the list and give you at least 45 guys who are locks to be on the team. That gives you 8 spots and the rest is just training camp drill fodder. If a month and a half of camp and 2 games isn't enough to find those 8 guys, are two more games against another team's scrubs going to help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted August 10, 2004 I see the preseason as a fucking tease for the regular season. If the NFL were a meal, the preseason is the appetizer, the regular season is the main course, and the playoffs/Super Bowl are dessert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JangoFett4Hire 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Preseason games shouldn't be televised, or used as money-making exhibtions. They should be used as a way to find "diamonds in the rough" such as low-round draft picks or undrafted free agents. Teams should keep their star players off the field, and have the games just be between the second & third stringers and bubble players that might not make the team. And the pre-season games should be free for season ticket holders, with the extra tickets available to the general public at a small cost. I agree with the preseason games in principle: a way to determine which players will help the team win. But I don't agree with what the games have become: glorified exhibitions that really don't do much more than put money in the owners pockets. Like Michael Bishop? If you just have 2nd, 3rd and 4th stringers playing, how can you really gauge their abilities? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 Preseason games shouldn't be televised, or used as money-making exhibtions. They should be used as a way to find "diamonds in the rough" such as low-round draft picks or undrafted free agents. Teams should keep their star players off the field, and have the games just be between the second & third stringers and bubble players that might not make the team. And the pre-season games should be free for season ticket holders, with the extra tickets available to the general public at a small cost. The NFL already holds events like this - they're called scrimmages. The only difference is, there's no heavy tackling involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 10, 2004 I don't mind the 4 games, but I don't understand why teams in the HOF game still have to play 4 more games? Why not just make the HOF one of the four? I mean the HOF game takes place after what, 7 days of training camp, so of course the meticority that we witnessed last night is to be expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mindless_Aggression Report post Posted August 11, 2004 I understand some of the arguements for preseason. You can be in the best shape in the world but if you haven't played football since the end of last season, then you're not really in football shape. Of course, that gets shot all to hell when the starters play like 4 downs and thats it. I'm sure it's something that coaches appreciate to some degree though. Well, until one of their starters achilles explodes that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2004 Another thing is, what is the difference between a preaseaon game and a scrimmage with another team, with officials. That way, everything about it makes like a legit game except no tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 11, 2004 Having a crowd there at a preseason game makes it seem more "real" than a scrimmage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2004 Having a crowd there at a preseason game makes it seem more "real" than a scrimmage. Crowds do attend scrimmages. Just no TV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2004 Lemme guess, NoCal, your latest Avatar is dedicated to me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted August 11, 2004 Lemme guess, NoCal, your latest Avatar is dedicated to me... umm, I don't get it..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2004 You look like a hippy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2004 For those that care, I made a PM comment to him the other day when it looked like he got his hair cut... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted August 12, 2004 The NFL already holds events like this - they're called scrimmages. The only difference is, there's no heavy tackling involved. It's hard to judge how good of a player a defensive lineman or linebacker is if he's not allowed to tackle ... it might prove that the player is capable of catching a QB or RB, but not if he's able to make an open field solo tackle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted August 13, 2004 Having a crowd there at a preseason game makes it seem more "real" than a scrimmage. Crowds do attend scrimmages. Just no TV The crowd is much bigger at a preseason game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bigm350 Report post Posted August 15, 2004 To me preseason is boring and I never watch it. Call me when the regular season starts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
