On 6-06-06, we'll have a lot of pissed off people

[BorneAgain 0]

Check out the info and the teaser trailer for this movie http://www.thebeastmovie.com/

 

Don't know if its real or not, but if it is, I'm guessing the reponse will be less than positive.

[Exslade ZX 0]

...thought it had something to do with the Xmen Beast at first.

 

IMO though..it looks like something that was done in Flash, at home or something, I dunno. It's a fan movie or something?

[BorneAgain 0]

...thought it had something to do with the Xmen Beast at first.

 

IMO though..it looks like something that was done in Flash, at home or something, I dunno. It's a fan movie or something?

I can't tell. IMDb has nothing on it, so it could be. The creators certainly went to a lot of trouble with the website, though what with the forum, trailer, and newsletter. Honestly, it could be a fake, but I thought it was worth bringing up.

[NoCalMike 0]

If that it is the legit release date, it seems a tad early, even for a teaser trailer.....I am sure if it is legit it is going to upset a LOT of people, but quite frankly, who cares?

 

The trailer was simple enough to have been done by anybody though so it could be fake.

[Lord of The Curry 0]

Fake.

 

Any legit movie project would have studio or production labels all over it.

[Guest SP-1]

That doesn't automatically make it fake. It could just be Indy.

[Mole 0]

[Art Sandusky 0]

I don't see why this is upsetting. It says the girl wants Jesus to be real, and the idea is interesting if nothing else.

[Ravenbomb 0]

kinda reminds me of that movie The Body

 

 

If it's real then the movie comes out on a Tuesday (maybe it's STV?)

[Guest SP-1]

I'd like to know just who conducted this, "Factual research".

 

I see no reason to get worked up over a movie rooted in likely biased research and skewed biblical history. I'll probably check it out if its real just to pick it apart.

[Guest JMA]

This sounds like a very interesting concept for a movie. I'm especially interested in the fact that the director is a former fundamentalist Christian.

[BorneAgain 0]

I'd like to know just who conducted this, "Factual research".

 

I see no reason to get worked up over a movie rooted in likely biased research and skewed biblical history. I'll probably check it out if its real just to pick it apart.

I'm curious, what's your opinion of the Last Temptation of Christ?

[ANKLELOCK 0]

As a fundamentalist Christian and son of a Pastor, consider me disgusted.

 

Someone who doubts the very existance of Christ let alone that He is the Son of God is going to have some serious answering to do to the very person whose existance he doubts.

 

[Astro101 0]

I'm agnostic myself...this movie sounds interesting. But it's gonna get some major heat by...oh...maybe the world.

[Highland 0]

So the fundies will get upset over a movie, like they do with everything they consider immoral (which happens to be everything) *yawn*

[Lil' Bitch 0]

If this move is legit, I'm not watching that shit.

[chaosrage 0]

As a fundamentalist Christian and son of a Pastor, consider me disgusted.

 

Someone who doubts the very existance of Christ let alone that He is the Son of God is going to have some serious answering to do to the very person whose existance he doubts.

 

If this isn't a joke, then you're going to have to do some serious answering when you die and find out that Thor and Zeus are the ones really up there. Better start thinking about what to say.

 

And this movie sounds interesting.

[St. Gabe 0]

If this move is legit, I'm not watching that shit.

Wuss

[Guest SP-1]

I'd like to know just who conducted this, "Factual research". 

 

I see no reason to get worked up over a movie rooted in likely biased research and skewed biblical history.  I'll probably check it out if its real just to pick it apart.

I'm curious, what's your opinion of the Last Temptation of Christ?

It's a well made movie. An inaccurate one that ignores the warmth and heart of Christ shown in the gospels, and one that ignores His true purpose in favor of a ridiculous "What If?" scenario. But a well made movie, nonetheless.

 

This movie may also be well made. But as a student of Biblical languages, culture, and history, I'm interested in what it has to say. But if what it's saying has holes and draws bad conclusions based off of bad research, I won't hesitate to call it what it is: a well made movie full of misinformation. But I can respect the art of film that goes into it.

 

And chaos, must you? I'm just sayin'. He expressed his opinion. Baiting him is stupid.

Edited August 12, 2004 by SP-1

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

I don't think it needs to be said whether I'll watch this or not.

[dubq 0]

As a fundamentalist Christian and son of a Pastor, consider me disgusted.

 

Someone who doubts the very existance of Christ let alone that He is the Son of God is going to have some serious answering to do to the very person whose existance he doubts.

 

Yup, and the Boogeyman lives in your closet along with Dracula and the Wolfman.

 

Like Chaos said, I hope this is a joke dude.

[dubq 0]

I'm agnostic myself...this movie sounds interesting. But it's gonna get some major heat by...oh...maybe the world.

It's a piddly little indy movie with no studio behind it - if it's even real. Highly doubtful that it's going to get "heat from the world."

[godthedog 0]

I'd like to know just who conducted this, "Factual research". 

 

I see no reason to get worked up over a movie rooted in likely biased research and skewed biblical history.  I'll probably check it out if its real just to pick it apart.

I'm curious, what's your opinion of the Last Temptation of Christ?

It's a well made movie. An inaccurate one that ignores the warmth and heart of Christ shown in the gospels, and one that ignores His true purpose in favor of a ridiculous "What If?" scenario. But a well made movie, nonetheless.

why is the "what if" scenario so ridiculous? the idea was to put those qualities into jesus to manifest more clearly our own more human feelings of guilt and doubt. a fable telling us that if someone so great can overcome those feelings to fulfill his purpose, then we can too. the point is to show his struggle with those ideas. to make him as divine as he's portrayed in the bible would have been to downplay or ignore that inner moral struggle; without that, i can no longer see myself in what jesus is struggling with, and the film would lose its power to make me believe in myself. without giving jesus that moral struggle, it would fall into that same trap the bible falls into about the problems with trying to live up to someone who was literally perfect. the imperfection is needed for strength, or else you fall into the kierkegaard trap of giving up because you can never live up to him.

 

i don't think the point was to make you wonder IF christ went through that at all; i think the point was to make you reflect on your own faults, doubts, sins, etc., and make you aware of god's love and the power of forgiveness. the point is not to be accurate: the point is to USE the story of jesus as a reference point in reflecting on other matters. to criticize it for being inaccurate is like criticizing 'freeway' for having the little red riding hood character go to prison. the movie isn't RETELLING the legend, it's using the legend to tell its OWN story.

[Ravenbomb 0]

Plus, they flat out said that it's not based on the gospels.

[chaosrage 0]

And chaos, must you?  I'm just sayin'.  He expressed his opinion.  Baiting him is stupid.

And I expressed my opinion about his opinion. That's not baiting.

[Guest SP-1]

I'd like to know just who conducted this, "Factual research". 

 

I see no reason to get worked up over a movie rooted in likely biased research and skewed biblical history.  I'll probably check it out if its real just to pick it apart.

I'm curious, what's your opinion of the Last Temptation of Christ?

It's a well made movie. An inaccurate one that ignores the warmth and heart of Christ shown in the gospels, and one that ignores His true purpose in favor of a ridiculous "What If?" scenario. But a well made movie, nonetheless.

why is the "what if" scenario so ridiculous? the idea was to put those qualities into jesus to manifest more clearly our own more human feelings of guilt and doubt. a fable telling us that if someone so great can overcome those feelings to fulfill his purpose, then we can too. the point is to show his struggle with those ideas. to make him as divine as he's portrayed in the bible would have been to downplay or ignore that inner moral struggle; without that, i can no longer see myself in what jesus is struggling with, and the film would lose its power to make me believe in myself. without giving jesus that moral struggle, it would fall into that same trap the bible falls into about the problems with trying to live up to someone who was literally perfect. the imperfection is needed for strength, or else you fall into the kierkegaard trap of giving up because you can never live up to him.

 

i don't think the point was to make you wonder IF christ went through that at all; i think the point was to make you reflect on your own faults, doubts, sins, etc., and make you aware of god's love and the power of forgiveness. the point is not to be accurate: the point is to USE the story of jesus as a reference point in reflecting on other matters. to criticize it for being inaccurate is like criticizing 'freeway' for having the little red riding hood character go to prison. the movie isn't RETELLING the legend, it's using the legend to tell its OWN story.

gtd, I see your points. After this reply, I probably won't come back to it because it'd drag the thread off topic, but here's my problem with your approach:

 

We aren't supposed to live up to Christ. Love like Him, strive towards His qualities, yes. But you aren't supposed to expect yourself to live up to being perfect. That's exactly the problem Christ had with the pharisees. We're not supposed to try to be perfect because you're right: we can't. But being perfect isn't biblical teaching. Christ was perfect so he could die as a suitable ransom for our sins. When you place your faith in Him, God sees His perfection as suitable for YOU. The goal isn't to live up to that. The goal is to learn to love selflessly as He did, to let Him help you overcome sin in your life. But sin will still come while you're here.

 

God doesn't expect us to be perfect. If we were capable of it, He wouldn't have sent Jesus in the first place because we COULD earn our way into Heaven. But we can't. Strive to be like Him, to love like Him, to be honest like Him, yes. But let Him help you do that. You're not expected to do it on your own or to get it exactly right.

 

Identifying with Jesus as He's presented in the gospels isn't that hard. The son of God was an adopted child. He had to deal with that. His family rejected him in his own hometown. He had to deal with that. The authority figures of the time were watching him closely. He had to deal with that. His inner circle didn't always listen to him. One would eventually betray him. The rest would scatter, and one would deny he knew him in his darkest hour. Sounds like high school to me. It's not about the standard. It's about the example and trying to do the right thing in love like He did. I'd rather have a perfect God who became one of us to show me how to handle life than pattern myself after some random, fallible, human guy.

 

The point isn't perfection of your own. The point is His perfect. It makes up for your lack of perfection in God's eyes if you claim it.

 

I can chat over AIM or PM on it further but I don't want to take this off topic.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I'm agnostic myself...this movie sounds interesting. But it's gonna get some major heat by...oh...maybe the world.

It's a piddly little indy movie with no studio behind it - if it's even real. Highly doubtful that it's going to get "heat from the world."

"There's no such thing as bad publicity!"

 

And really, with a piddly little film (or even a less-than-piddly big film), controversy sells. Exploitation has existed since the beginning of film (where Edison would film and screen live executions), continuing through eras of sexual repression, and into the modern day with religious/political taboos. Most "controversial" works are barely worth the silver they're printed on (which is why so many from the "golden age" of exploitation have been lost/destroyed), but that controversy is what fuels interest in them.

 

As for the teaser being in existence so early, it isn't uncommon for a truly independent film to start off as a short film or teaser to show off to investors. For a great example of this, check out Mondo Macabro's DVD release of Aswang, wherein the teaser trailer consisted of scenes that would later be totally reshot for the final film; essentially, there were two different productions, with one (the teaser) made to acquire funds for the other (the final film).

 

EDIT: And to answer the cries of "it's not a real film!", I did a Google search for the director, and found his personal blog (as the first link...c'mon guys...). He's actually a forerunner in "open source" films (his previous work, Nothing So Strange, a mock investigation into the assassination of Bill Gates, is offered as a full-length film and as clips available for film-makers to "sample"), and was also behind the off-Broadway production Bat Boy. His most recent project, Free Cinema, sounds so interesting (think Dogme95, without pretention, and a focus on creation through collaboration rather than limitation), that I may just buy both the DVD of Nothing So Strange and the cast recording of Bat Boy to show my support for his idea.

Edited August 13, 2004 by evenflowDDT

[Masked Man of Mystery 0]

I didn't have time to watch thje trailer, but reading the about part, two things came to mind, The Da Vinci Code and The Blair Witch Project. This could all be very well fictional.