The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 World Wrestling Entertainment can be the parent company. Smackdown can be referred to as WWF Smackdown and their champion is the World Wrestling Federation champion. Raw can be referred to as WCW Monday Night Raw and their champion is the World Championship Wrestling champion. They can do an angle with Bischoff and Shane teaming up and putting the WCW logo on Raw to spite Vince. This way the champions have a title lineage and an organization attached to their title. For instance, last night when Randy Orton referred to himself as the youngest WWE Heavyweight Champion, this shows that even the talent is confused as to what title they own. Randy is the World Heavyweight Champion. JBL is the WWE Champion. The title that Randy won isn't the same title won at Summerslam by Yokozuna or Brock Lesnar. So if the company themselves are confused, how do you think the casual fan is with something as simple as, "Who's the WWE Champion?" Viva la WWE Folder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benoit4hor 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The Pandas should just change it to World Wildlife & Environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loss Report post Posted August 17, 2004 If the name change upset you, blame Vince, not the Fund. He is the one who violated the working agreement, not them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tjhe CyNick Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Everything that happened in this saga is all the fault of Vincent Kennedy McMahon. So I would find it quite funny if they wind up giving up the initials after all that happened. Actually what would be really funny is if they sold the initials to Ted Turner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Wrestling-News.com? That is a realiable source? When Metlz reports it, I will believe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 World Wrestling Entertainment can be the parent company. Smackdown can be referred to as WWF Smackdown and their champion is the World Wrestling Federation champion. Raw can be referred to as WCW Monday Night Raw and their champion is the World Championship Wrestling champion. They can do an angle with Bischoff and Shane teaming up and putting the WCW logo on Raw to spite Vince. This way the champions have a title lineage and an organization attached to their title. For instance, last night when Randy Orton referred to himself as the youngest WWE Heavyweight Champion, this shows that even the talent is confused as to what title they own. Randy is the World Heavyweight Champion. JBL is the WWE Champion. The title that Randy won isn't the same title won at Summerslam by Yokozuna or Brock Lesnar. So if the company themselves are confused, how do you think the casual fan is with something as simple as, "Who's the WWE Champion?" Viva la WWE Folder. Especially since Yoko never won the title at SummerSlam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BHK 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I'd mark out if the re-issued all the DVDs without the blurring. Actually....*marks out that this happened before the release of the Bret DVD* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I hope they change it back to WWF. They might as well do it before it's too late...they've only been WWE for 2 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 You people realise that Vince can't just change the name back right? He's the one who signed the agreement. God some people are so stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Uh, okay? No need to flip out when I realize Vince has to go through court again to obtain the trademark rights for it and it may not happen, but it's possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I wasn't referring to you- I was referring to people who were like 'OMG! NO MORE WWE! NO MORE BLURRING! YAY!' It's not that simple. Vince is the idiot who violated the argreement and the pandas called him on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Oh, okay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Positively Kanyon 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Another thing that's quite ironic or hilarious, whichever way you see it, is that http://www.wwf.com links to an online wrestling store and forum! I thought the whole drama that started this in the first place was about the website address initials? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJerk 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 The Pandas should just change it to World Wildlife & Environment. That's going in the sig. Wait a minute...I thought the World Wildlife Fund had ALWAYS been known as the World Wildlife Fund for Nature in the US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 That, and the fact WWF/E was selling their shit overseas using WWF, which was the originally agreement...that they couldn't do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I have a question since I don't know much about the whole situation. Now, the copyright issue is largely to do with Britain right? I understand the name change, but for the older stuff, couldn't they just do the blurring for the European DVDs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 Hey guys, I heard ECW is coming back. They mean it this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted August 17, 2004 I knew about the name change, but I forgot about the environmental group and their impact. This is probably why on my weekend trip to WMXIX I noticed stickers on streetlights and stuff in downtown Seattle showing a panda in crosshairs. The whole city was flooded with wrestling fans and Mary Kay ladies that weekend, and I don't think the Mary Kay ladies would do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I have a question since I don't know much about the whole situation. Now, the copyright issue is largely to do with Britain right? I understand the name change, but for the older stuff, couldn't they just do the blurring for the European DVDs? They can't do anything WWF now, anywhere, cause they lost in court. Originally, they couldn't do WWF overseas but since Vince broke the agreement, they've lost WWF entirely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kahran Ramsus 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I have a question since I don't know much about the whole situation. Now, the copyright issue is largely to do with Britain right? I understand the name change, but for the older stuff, couldn't they just do the blurring for the European DVDs? They can't do anything WWF now, anywhere, cause they lost in court. Originally, they couldn't do WWF overseas but since Vince broke the agreement, they've lost WWF entirely. That explains it then. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I have a question since I don't know much about the whole situation. Now, the copyright issue is largely to do with Britain right? I understand the name change, but for the older stuff, couldn't they just do the blurring for the European DVDs? They can't do anything WWF now, anywhere, cause they lost in court. Originally, they couldn't do WWF overseas but since Vince broke the agreement, they've lost WWF entirely. That explains it then. Thanks. And the only reason they are allowed to show the 2 old WWF logos is because the Fund felt they weren't offensive like the scratch logo...and obviously they can say World Wrestling Federation as much as they want because Vince has that trademarked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BDC Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Don't forget the now WWFFN contemplated trying to stop Vince from using WWE almost as soon as it was implemented. Had they tried that, they would have been laughed out of court. That's just it. They DID try it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 Am I the only guy here would would, if WWE actually offered it, send in my "WWE" era DVDs in exchange for updated ones without all of the blurs? It's not that big of a deal, but if I could exchange them I'd do it in a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 I dunno the specifics, but there are copyright and trademark laws that various countries have signed on to enforce. I know the US follows one (there are 2 big ones) which would also apply to the UK. As for the scratch logo. I would assume that a grandfather clause protects the other "new gen" and "old school" logos because the WWFund was ok with them before (each time a logo is changed, I would assume, a new deal is made), so the WWE could use the older logos, but not the scratched one. Oh, and.. *Gives $100 donation to the World Wildlife Fund* I believe in their 2 main causes... Protecting Nature Screwing Vince Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kizzo 0 Report post Posted August 18, 2004 All McMahon's faulit....no one should be upset at the Panda's...becuase Vince is the one that broke the agreement...not them.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Yeah screw Vince, he's never done anything for us anyway. Long live the pandas!!!!!! Wait you mean to tell me that Hulk Hogan or Steve Austin weren't actually panda spokesmen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 Well, one mistake with the wwf is bad enough. Hulk Hogan too in a stupid agreement? All we got to wait on is the six million dollar man Steve Austin suing Stone Cold Steve Austin next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted August 19, 2004 All we got to wait on is the six million dollar man Steve Austin suing Stone Cold Steve Austin next Thank god that Dutch Mantell was there to straighten that all out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SteveyP93 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I'd mark out if the re-issued all the DVDs without the blurring. Actually....*marks out that this happened before the release of the Bret DVD* Nothing on Bret's DVD would be blurred anyway. His career was pre-scratch logo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I still call it WWE..so bleh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
