Promoter 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I know there has only been one time I felt the streak should have been broken and that was this year at the 20th anniversary. It didn't happen and perhaps for the better, but I was naive enough to think they wanted Kane to be the new phenom. How far that scenario has fallen. However, if Andre the Giant had his undefeated win streak broken and also had his undefeated battle royal kingpin status destroyed(Hercules killed the legend which was a waste) than I think Taker should do the same. Highly unlikely though as it might be someone useless down the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I might be wrong on this, but I saw a list of the places for their next 8 PPV's or so....and the buildings are all small. I guess the WWE is really scaling back the dates of shows running in the bigger buildings since attendance has been falling for years now. Bradley Center in Milwaukee, WI seats 19,000 people. Gund Arena in Cleveland, OH seats 20,000 people Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA seats 15,000 people. Save Mart Center in Fresno, CA seats 15,000 people. Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh, PA seats 17,000 people. Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA seats 19,000 people. Those don't look like 'smaller' arenas to me. They're not domes, but it's not like WWE is holding PPVs in Saginaw, MI or Florence, SC again, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
res37618 0 Report post Posted August 19, 2004 I might be wrong on this, but I saw a list of the places for their next 8 PPV's or so....and the buildings are all small. I guess the WWE is really scaling back the dates of shows running in the bigger buildings since attendance has been falling for years now. Bradley Center in Milwaukee, WI seats 19,000 people. Gund Arena in Cleveland, OH seats 20,000 people Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA seats 15,000 people. Save Mart Center in Fresno, CA seats 15,000 people. Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh, PA seats 17,000 people. Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA seats 19,000 people. Those don't look like 'smaller' arenas to me. They're not domes, but it's not like WWE is holding PPVs in Saginaw, MI or Florence, SC again, either. LOL, I've been to the Florence Civic Center before, and I was just astounded that WWF would hold a PPV in that building, even it it was just an IYH. It was super nice, but really, really small (probably no more than 5000-6000 tops). I don't know why they didn't just opt for Charleston, SC in the first place, which has an arena twice that size - they ended up doing half the show there anyway LOL. I guess maybe they figured they'd get the rowdy Myrtle Beach summer crowd in Florence, since it's only about 60 miles away. And the Puerto Rico show they've got scheduled for Jan. 2005 is at a new arena - that should be interesting to say the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest syncer55 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 It is kinda odd, but it is probably to make it sell out faster so they can say that Royal Rumble was sold out during their PPV broadcast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 It is kinda odd, but it is probably to make it sell out faster so they can say that Royal Rumble was sold out during their PPV broadcast. You make it sound like they only say that when it it really IS sold out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted August 20, 2004 I think they should tell Fresno to screw off and come HERE....IN VANCOUVER! Damn WWE, we haven't had a PPV here in 5 years. ...and thanks to Toronto, it will probably be another five years. Don't feel bad; the most my town has ever gotten was a WCW Monday Nitro broadcast. It was during their hot years, so they didn't really care if they sold out or not. It was in El Paso, Texas, in either August or September of 1998. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 I might be wrong on this, but I saw a list of the places for their next 8 PPV's or so....and the buildings are all small. I guess the WWE is really scaling back the dates of shows running in the bigger buildings since attendance has been falling for years now. Bradley Center in Milwaukee, WI seats 19,000 people. Gund Arena in Cleveland, OH seats 20,000 people Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA seats 15,000 people. Save Mart Center in Fresno, CA seats 15,000 people. Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh, PA seats 17,000 people. Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA seats 19,000 people. Those don't look like 'smaller' arenas to me. They're not domes, but it's not like WWE is holding PPVs in Saginaw, MI or Florence, SC again, either. Bear in mind that these look like figures for basketball seating configurations, not wrestling. 15,000 for the Philips Arena sounds way too small to be worth replacing the Omni, and an ESPN almanac check confirms my theory, as they list 19,445 as capacity for an Atlanta Hawks game. If you want wrestling seating numbers for your average arena, remember that there are more floor seats but one end of the building has to be blocked off for the stage. This usually gets you somewhere in the high range of 12-15K for a 17-20K arena. Thus, the Rumble in Fresno, which is not held at a major commercial arena but rather the university's arena, could very well not break 10,000, depending on how they play around with the set. They'd be well-advised to go small-but-cool on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Tino Standard 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2004 I might be wrong on this, but I saw a list of the places for their next 8 PPV's or so....and the buildings are all small. I guess the WWE is really scaling back the dates of shows running in the bigger buildings since attendance has been falling for years now. Bradley Center in Milwaukee, WI seats 19,000 people. Gund Arena in Cleveland, OH seats 20,000 people Philips Arena in Atlanta, GA seats 15,000 people. Save Mart Center in Fresno, CA seats 15,000 people. Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh, PA seats 17,000 people. Staples Center in Los Angeles, CA seats 19,000 people. Those don't look like 'smaller' arenas to me. They're not domes, but it's not like WWE is holding PPVs in Saginaw, MI or Florence, SC again, either. Bear in mind that these look like figures for basketball seating configurations, not wrestling. 15,000 for the Philips Arena sounds way too small to be worth replacing the Omni, and an ESPN almanac check confirms my theory, as they list 19,445 as capacity for an Atlanta Hawks game. If you want wrestling seating numbers for your average arena, remember that there are more floor seats but one end of the building has to be blocked off for the stage. This usually gets you somewhere in the high range of 12-15K for a 17-20K arena. Thus, the Rumble in Fresno, which is not held at a major commercial arena but rather the university's arena, could very well not break 10,000, depending on how they play around with the set. They'd be well-advised to go small-but-cool on this one. Gund Arena seats 20,562 for Cavs games. The sold-out crowd for Invasion was more than 17,000, and that was with a set that was basically the same as the Raw set. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jericholic82 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2004 They'll just make the tickets much more expensive than they would be otherwise. This is the Royal Rumble - people will be willing to shell out the money. This is the same mentality they had behind WrestleMania XX. A lot of people couldn't understand why they had gone from dome arenas - filled with 50,000+ seats - to suddenly bringing the show back to Madison Square Garden, which holds little over 20,000 people. Well, they also highly increased the prices of their tickets at WrestleMania XX as compared to the prices of tickets from years past. You figure this is what they will do at the Royal Rumble. Ticket prices will actually be a lot higher, bringing them near the same amount of revenue as from years past when they held the event in bigger arenas. There goes my hopes for scoring wm 21 tix in LA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
