CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I'm not a anti-dress code necessarly, if the dress code is reasonable. But are they still obsessed with wanting to keep kayfabe, like they were awhile ago? If yes, everybody dressing like Triple H or Ric Flair is stupid. But I like the merchandise idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I think vince wants to recreate the image of the respectful, idolised characters. I mean when the workers are dressed exactly like the guys in the crowd, you arent going to hold that guy in a certain light. He probably thinks it will help people get over more if they are seen as professionals, not minimim wage workers. Is it really that hard to wear a pair of pants and a shirt. Some people make it sound like its the most uncomfortable thing to wear. Travelling on the road 250 days a year in a shirt and pants isnt going to be a huge difficult task compared to if you had to do it in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Staravenger Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I actually hate wearing jeans...I don't know why, but they don't feel comfortable. Either regular slacks or athletic shorts for me. On-Topic: So who is really pissed off about the dress code? I heard Jericho and Hardcore Holly are two major ones (and both look like they dress in the dark) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 Some people make it sound like its the most uncomfortable thing to wear. Travelling on the road 250 days a year in a shirt and pants isnt going to be a huge difficult task compared to if you had to do it in a pair of jeans and a t-shirt. No, but jeans are 'comfort wear', where as most of the people who don't like the dress code likely only wear smart shirt and pants when they actually have to. It's a mental thing probably. They associate shirt and pants with 'work' and it makes going to the arena seem like 'work, maybe. That and the fact they're no longer free to choose what to wear. I see your point though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I actually hate wearing jeans...I don't know why, but they don't feel comfortable. Either regular slacks or athletic shorts for me. On-Topic: So who is really pissed off about the dress code? I heard Jericho and Hardcore Holly are two major ones (and both look like they dress in the dark) I heard Edge and Molly think it's stupid to dress like thier high class when they fly coach and pack 5 guys in one car when travelling. And Jericho has impecible dressing skills! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I actually hate wearing jeans...I don't know why, but they don't feel comfortable. Either regular slacks or athletic shorts for me. I agree. Slacks are more comfortable than jeans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sideburnious 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I actually hate wearing jeans...I don't know why, but they don't feel comfortable. Either regular slacks or athletic shorts for me. I agree. Slacks are more comfortable than jeans. I'd be sort of 50-50 on it. I dont mind wearing either (even though most times i do wear jeans) but i wouldnt have a problem wearing slacks when I have to. It's a mental thing probably. They associate shirt and pants with 'work' and it makes going to the arena seem like 'work, maybe. That and the fact they're no longer free to choose what to wear. Good point. Its probably more the fact that its all becoming a business instead of fun, well at least it will be to some of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Maintenance Man 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I don't agree with this whole dress code thing. If I remember right, in one of those same internet reports it mentioned how dress codes aren't in any of the wrestler's contracts so they shouldn't have to abide by it. I'm heavily against dress codes. I prefer jeans over slacks anyday. The only times I wear slacks is when I go to church or some kind of formal event. I just hate how the legs of them ride up when you sit down, exposing your socks, giving you that "flooded" look. But actually, I think WWE should let their superstars wear whatever the hell they want. These guys travel all over the world and sometimes the temperatures aren't too forgiving. If I was a WWE wrestler and I was on a tour in Africa(HOT ass country)I wouldn't want to be wearing slacks and a dress shirt. Dress codes just kill individuality. I don't see what the big deal is about the company wanting their workers to look more "professional" and "respectable" when they have women on TV calling each other "cum guzzling sluts" and "cocksuckers". Just doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 If I remember right, in one of those same internet reports it mentioned how dress codes aren't in any of the wrestler's contracts so they shouldn't have to abide by it. Regardless if it's in the contract or not, it's probably said they are expected to follow the rules the company sets. Not every little thing gets put into contracts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iliketurtles 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I don't see what the big deal is about the company wanting their workers to look more "professional" and "respectable" when they have women on TV calling each other "cum guzzling sluts" and "cocksuckers". Just doesn't work. Exactly right. They need to worry about representing their company on TV in a more professional manner then worrying about about what the guys wear to the shows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I don't agree with this whole dress code thing. If I remember right, in one of those same internet reports it mentioned how dress codes aren't in any of the wrestler's contracts so they shouldn't have to abide by it. I'm heavily against dress codes. I prefer jeans over slacks anyday. The only times I wear slacks is when I go to church or some kind of formal event. I just hate how the legs of them ride up when you sit down, exposing your socks, giving you that "flooded" look. But actually, I think WWE should let their superstars wear whatever the hell they want. These guys travel all over the world and sometimes the temperatures aren't too forgiving. If I was a WWE wrestler and I was on a tour in Africa(HOT ass country)I wouldn't want to be wearing slacks and a dress shirt. Dress codes just kill individuality. I don't see what the big deal is about the company wanting their workers to look more "professional" and "respectable" when they have women on TV calling each other "cum guzzling sluts" and "cocksuckers". Just doesn't work. You act like they're demanding that the employees do something completely unreasonable. They just ask that the wrestlers make the effort to look nice and not like a band of total slobs. And you need to see a tailor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 Something tells me that they got this idea from someone around in the old Mid South days... like Jim Ross. In Mid-South, everyone was on the road probably 90% of the time when they weren't wrestling due to the geography of the territory and the unusual schedule that Bill Watts had them on. In addition to that, the guys were expected to dress nice when they arrived at the towns. Mid-South's travel schedule was MUCH worse than the current WWE one because they drove everywhere and most of the scheduled towns were on the opposite ends of the territory from each other. You could start in Alexandria, LA (central Louisiana), do double-shots in Tulsa and Oklahoma City the next day, go to New Orleans the day after that, Shreveport, LA (northwest corner of Louisiana) after that, etc. It was NOT a pretty schedule by any means. At least the WWE guys fly into one major city and work a string of cities all in the same general area (Fly into Dallas then work Dallas, Houston, Beaumont, Lafayette and New Orleans before flying out of New Orleans). As for the actual dress code, they just need to wear a fucking pair of khakis and a button-down shirt and be done with it. I hated it before I had to start working but now I can live with it as long as I don't wear a tie every day. It is not THAT uncomfortable if you have clothes in your size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest netslob Report post Posted September 3, 2004 Dress codes just kill individuality. which is probably why one is in effect. Vince is the type to want total control over everything around him, and this week, it's how the wrestlers dress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 I'm sure, believe it or not, they do care more about storylines then the dress code. The whinny gossip loving high school girls better known as WWE wrestlers are making the big deal out of the dress code. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exslade ZX 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 or do you think they give a shit that the WWE wasted 30 minutes of TV time with the Kane/Lita wedding fiasco Hey..in that angles defense it did Garner the WWE a 4.9 which is higher then almost anything they've seen, car crash effect or not. It worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 The problem is WWE wants all the benefits of full time professional employees, and none of the responsibilities. You want employees to abide a dress code? Great, fine. Then you should have no problem paying the way for every person in the company--hotel, airfare, and hey, how about health insurance for everyone, which is what real companies do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 The problem is WWE wants all the benefits of full time professional employees, and none of the responsibilities. You want employees to abide a dress code? Great, fine. Then you should have no problem paying the way for every person in the company--hotel, airfare, and hey, how about health insurance for everyone, which is what real companies do. Actually, airfare is covered from what I understand. That goes back to the expansion days in the 1980s when Vince would give the guys a big packet full of airline tickets every so often so they could fly across the entire country for him. Hotels aren't covered except for maybe Wrestlemania weekend and health care is mainly limited to work-related injuries like Benoit's neck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haVoc 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 They do pay airfare. Wrestlers pay for their cars and hotels. And if they want health benefits then they can leave wrestling and go get a less paying 9 - 5 job.... Where they would have to follow another dress code. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest netslob Report post Posted September 3, 2004 exactly Jester. what, it's not enough that these guys bust their asses day in, day out so Vince can hike up his and his family's salarys, make them travel all over the world 300 days of the year, in coach no less, and now they have to abide by a dress code for no real reason. well, not EVERYONE, of course. i think Vince does this shit just to see how much the wrestlers will take, and once he broke them on one thing, he'll move onto something else, just to prove that he's the boss and they are, essentially, his property. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jester 0 Report post Posted September 3, 2004 They do pay airfare. Wrestlers pay for their cars and hotels. And if they want health benefits then they can leave wrestling and go get a less paying 9 - 5 job.... Where they would have to follow another dress code. My point is that if they want to project professionalism, they can start from the top. When employees have to travel, most companies pick up the full tab, including hotel. Pissant little companies have better employee packages than WWE. I know a guy who put groceries on shelves for a living, and he gets fantastic health care, bonuses, incentives for further training. Yes, he follows a dress code, and it's well worth the trade. With the money WWE rakes in, they could do the same. I'm sure many wrestlers would take a little less pay too for benefits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Australian Pride 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 I'm undecided on the dress code. Like, i dont think everyone should be forced to dress the same but there's nothing wrong with wearing decent attire. The rules are the rules and it's not that hard to wear a pair of slacks and decent shirt. I would draw the line at wearing a tie though, but that's just me. I do believe, however, that if WWE wants to enforce this then they have to give a little back. I've never heard of employees having to pay for their own travel/accommodation expenses when on official business. WWE is the exception, but if they expect everyone to follow their rules they should be like every other company and pay for these other expenses. I'm not saying they should hire BMW's for everyone and pay for 5 Star hotels, but they have to give something back, especially to the lower card guys who aren't exactly raking in the cash. And why are they pissed at The Rock? How senseless is it to expect a guy making a one-off appearance to show up at the arena in business attire, and then change to something more casual for his 20 minute segment, and then change back to leave. Undertaker is another story, but he has the power to get away with anything in this company. Vince wouldn't expect Austin or Foley to dress up either, if they returned to the company on a full time basis. Some people earn the right to be different, and UT has made the company a lot of money and been a draw for nearly 15 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 4, 2004 Dress codes just kill individuality. Heaven forbid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 Both sides are silly: The Wrestlers for not doing something simple as putting on a different pair of pants, shirt, and shoes; and the company for thinking it would make a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twisted Intestine 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 If you're on the road with the same people for the majority of the year, they're going to start to tick you off.. If you are now being forced to dress in a suit for this time, you'll get more ticked. If you are now in the hall and you see a higher up walk past Taker (Who isn't dressed according to code), and he says nothing to him, then he walks past you and tells you to tuck in your shirt, you're going to flip. At least I would. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChick 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 If you are now in the hall and you see a higher up walk past Taker (Who isn't dressed according to code), and he says nothing to him, then he walks past you and tells you to tuck in your shirt, you're going to flip. At least I would. That sounds like a private high school hallway! Athletes wear runners or a non-uniform sweatshirt get a free pass (YES~!), but the rest get shat on for an untucked shirt. It's kinda funny, since it's to my advantage, but my friends get quite mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest croweater Report post Posted September 4, 2004 The wrestlers should do it while it is a rule, but if they're that against it get some sort of mass action together and then go complain to Vince. It's like there's never any unity among the wrestlers because they're all afraid they'll lose their push or be fired, so you have only strong willed individuals speaking out, it makes them look like a minority, and it goes nowhere. If a large group of wrestlers suggested a loosening of the rules, not a complete overhaul, say, they can either dress in slacks and a shirt, or suitable athletic atire, or kayfabe, I really don't think this would be a problem. It's just that people are too afraid to stand up to Vince, and the ones who aren't are probably rich enough to do what they want anyway or Chris Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 Somehow, I don't think that The Rock is unwilling to dress snappy when it's required, he's just not around much and seems to always be wearing a tank top and jeans in regular off-camera work. I doubt he was even aware of the code. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 4, 2004 That sounds like a private high school hallway! Maybe that's why I have no problem with the dress code. I'm a catholic school boy (and yes, knowing certain people and doing certain things got you some uniform perks) so I've never had an issue with it. That and being a Yankee fan has dulled me to "individuality" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted September 4, 2004 I don't agree with this whole dress code . I hope the roster just gives a big FUCK YOU to management on this one such as not doing it altogether so hopefully WWE will just drop it (like Congress did with Prohibition), the dress code was a stupid idea to begin with IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites