Dress code continues to be annoying

[AndrewTS 0]

Dudes, this is totally getting out of control over something as small as wrestlers being told to look respectable turning up in arenas. I doubt they have to wear it at hotels or driving there rental cars, just turning up and leaving work.

You didn't actually read up on it before commenting I see...

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

The courts generally use the following two tets to determine if a person is employee:

 

- Control - the individual is subject to control by the employer (when/where/how work is done)

- Organization - the person is integrated into the business organization

 

The courts generatlly use the folloing two tests to determine if an individual is an I.C.

 

- Tools - the individual has ownership of that person's own tools and brings them to the workplace

- Risk - the individual has the potential for loss or gain of profits from the arrangement.

 

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If you ask me, both cases have their own merits, but "employee" is a slam dunk whereas "I.C." you'd have to stretch some things out to make a match.

[Guest SteveyP93]

I built my PC out of iron and brawn.

 

I never said I was Amish, by the way.

[Sideburnious 0]

Lol i never said you were amish either. I just said your part of corporate america

[AndrewTS 0]

The courts generally use the following two tets to determine if a person is employee:

 

- Control - the individual is subject to control by the employer (when/where/how work is done)

- Organization - the person is integrated into the business organization

 

The courts generatlly use the folloing two tests to determine if an individual is an I.C.

 

- Tools - the individual has ownership of that person's own tools and brings them to the workplace

- Risk - the individual has the potential for loss or gain of profits from the arrangement.

 

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If you ask me, both cases have their own merits, but "employee" is a slam dunk whereas "I.C." you'd have to stretch some things out to make a match.

Yeah, there's not much supporting I.C. except for the pay arrangement. Aside from the ring gear--which I do believe wrestlers have to purchase themselves, they're pretty much using company tools--rings, sets, entrances, etc. Although I think they have to use their own personal vehicles or rental cars for traveling, at least part of the time, though.

 

However, they get a guaranteed downside as part of their contracts, so aside from merchandising money, there's little risk for them as far as money (different from physical risk, etc, of course).

 

Funny thing is, the wrestlers seem to be taking the wrong route in dealing with this, and should try to get their lawyers to work on it if they feel that strongly about it. However, the ones mature enough to do that don't seem to oppose the dress code at all.

[Guest Loss]

This isn't newsworthy. And it doesn't affect what we end up seeing on camera. Most of the backstage news actually does affect the TV product. This doesn't. So why do we care enough either way to have an opinion?

[Guest DeathBecomesYou]

So they have to do something new, boo hoo. Its not as if their money is being cut.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but wasn't there a situation a while back where several of the mid and lower card wrestlers were "asked" to take a pay cut for the "good of the company"?

[Guest Loss]

Yes. They did that to make way for the NWO contracts, which was just fantastic for morale.

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- Tools - the individual has ownership of that person's own tools and brings them to the workplace

I could be mistaken, but in one of my management training classes I took a few years back, the human body could be classified as a tool, the reasons being that it must be kept up and in good working order and was the means of performing their trade. I believe it was a small chapter about dancers and performance artists, under which wrestlers would be classifed under I believe. This was about 3 years ago so I could be recalling incorrectly.

[SamoaRowe 0]

Yes. They did that to make way for the NWO contracts, which was just fantastic for morale.

Ugh, I hope the lower card guys got their money back once Hall and Hogan jumped ship.

[haVoc 0]

BUMP

 

WWE is allowing the Undertaker and John Cena to not follow the controversial WWE dress code that has upset many wrestlers for the past few weeks. 'Taker doesn't have to follow due to his long standing position in the company and the fact that he is one of the top guys. Word is that Cena doesn't have to follow it because management feels that a dress code would strongly conflict with his character. Of course, many wrestlers have complained that the dress code conflicts with their character, but have not been given permission to not follow it.

 

Credit: PWTorch.com

 

Gotta love the Internet. They use "controversial" like it's some big deal.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

What nice double standards from the WWE of course.

[Guest PlatinumBoy]

If I was Cena or Taker, I'd still follow it.

[haVoc 0]

If they can get away with it then why not? Let the rest of the drama queens in the back figure out a way to get out of the dress code.

 

Sometimes you have to look out for yourself.

[CanadianChick 0]

I don't care about Taker, but I'm glad Cena doesn't have to follow it. It does conflict with his character, and probably would more than anybody's.

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't care about Taker, but I'm glad Cena doesn't have to follow it. It does conflict with his character, and probably would more than anybody's.

That I don't understand. I didn't really understand to begin with why Taker was exempt, but if you are instituting a dress code to stop the workers from looking like slobs, it doesn't make sense to exempt the sloppiest dresser in the company because it would conflict with his character.

 

In short "he's been here for a while" is bad, but not quite as bad as "Well, dressing like a slob is his character"

[haVoc 0]

The way Cena dresses is far from the sloppiest when some guys are walking through airports in ripped sweat pants.

[CanadianChick 0]

Wearing jerseys isn't dressing sloppy, AS. It's called dressing young, which Cena is.

[Guest Anglesault]

Wearing jerseys isn't dressing sloppy, AS. It's called dressing young, which Cena is.

He's my age (or there about). I don't dress like that. I buy clothes that fit me and wear them properly. I at least try to look professional when I go out. I don't think that makes me "old"

[haVoc 0]

Aren't you from NY, AS? People your age dress like that all the time.

[Guest Anglesault]

Aren't you from NY, AS? People your age dress like that all the time.

People my age do alot of things that I would never do. That doesn't make me old.

[CanadianChick 0]

But his demographic is young males who do dress like that. Why would he need to look 'professional' if that's not even his intent? I'd assume his intent would be to impress his audience rather than people who don't take wrestling seriously.