Head Navy Investigator Backs Up Kerry...

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=703&e=...

 

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By ROBERT BURNS, AP Military Writer

 

WASHINGTON - The Navy's chief investigator concluded Friday that procedures were followed properly in the approval of Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites)'s Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals, according to an internal Navy memo.

 

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"Our examination found that existing documentation regarding the Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart medals indicates the awards approval process was properly followed," Route wrote in the memo sent Friday to Navy Secretary Gordon England.

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[SuperJerk 0]

Gee, I wonder why this story's getting ignored...

[Guest MikeSC]

Still doesn't answer how Kerry won an award nobody ever was awarded or has been awarded since.

-=Mike

...Hmm, the military won't investigate somebody who has the ability to impact their funding? Shocking twist o' events.

[SuperJerk 0]

Still doesn't answer how Kerry won an award nobody ever was awarded or has been awarded since.

                  -=Mike

...Hmm, the military won't investigate somebody who has the ability to impact their funding? Shocking twist o' events.

Someone's looking for things to bitch about.

Yeah, he once referred to his medal by the wrong name. Because, you know, Bush NEVER misspeaks.

 

Just admit Kerry's a war hero, your guy isn't, and get over it.

 

Its not like it matters, since people are by far and wide more interested in what the two candidates plan to do, rather than what happened 30 years ago. Bush being a pussy during Vietnam isn't hurting him any in the polls.

 

the military won't investigate somebody who has the ability to impact their funding?

Kerry's 1/100th of the Senate. I hardly think they're scared of him.

[Guest MikeSC]

Still doesn't answer how Kerry won an award nobody ever was awarded or has been awarded since.

                  -=Mike

...Hmm, the military won't investigate somebody who has the ability to impact their funding? Shocking twist o' events.

Someone's looking for things to bitch about.

 

Just admit he's a war hero, your guy isn't, and get over it.

 

He's not a war hero. 4 months does not a hero make.

Its not like it matters, since people are by far and wide more interested in what the two candidates plan to do, rather than what happened 30 years ago.

Seeing as how nobody, including John, seems to know what Kerry wants to do, all you have is his past.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

He's not a war hero. 4 months does not a hero make.

That's really stupid logic.

 

Saving someone's life makes someone a hero, not the amount of time he spent in country.

 

Look up "hero" in the dictionary and see if they put a time limit on it.

[Vyce 0]

Gee, I wonder why this story's getting ignored...

Because it's a non-story that doesn't really even touch the heart of the matter regarding Kerry's medals.

 

The main issue regarding the medals wasn't that they were received through the improper procedures (though that was part of what was claimed), the main issue was whether or not Kerry flat out lied about what happened to him and what he did.

 

That's why the story hasn't got that much play, because it doesn't really prove anything for Kerry.

[Guest MikeSC]

He's not a war hero. 4 months does not a hero make.

That's really stupid logic.

 

Saving someone's life makes someone a hero, not the amount of time he spent in country.

 

Beating another guy to the man does not exactly make one a hero, either. If Kerry was two minutes slower, he'd have nothing.

 

Then again, if Cleeland was irresponsible here rather than in Vietnam, he'd have not had a career at all, so them's the breaks.

Look up "hero" in the dictionary and see if they put a time limit on it.

Kerry's service is nothing.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

He's not a war hero. 4 months does not a hero make.

That's really stupid logic.

 

Saving someone's life makes someone a hero, not the amount of time he spent in country.

 

Beating another guy to the man does not exactly make one a hero, either. If Kerry was two minutes slower, he'd have nothing.

You risk your life to save someone else's life, you're a hero. I'm sorry your so blindly partisan you can't see something that fucking simple.

 

 

Then again, if Cleeland was irresponsible here rather than in Vietnam, he'd have not had a career at all, so them's the breaks.

Was that even a real sentence? I have no idea what you're talking about.

[snuffbox 0]

Kerry's service is nothing.

-=Mike

Coming from a decorated vet like Mike...Im definitly voting for those patriots Bush and Cheney now.

[Guest MikeSC]

Kerry's service is nothing.

        -=Mike

Coming from a decorated vet like Mike...Im definitly voting for those patriots Bush and Cheney now.

You know my history how, snuffy?

You risk your life to save someone else's life, you're a hero. I'm sorry your so blindly partisan you can't see something that fucking simple.

He...didn't...do...squat.

Was that even a real sentence? I have no idea what you're talking about.

This is me being very much not surprised by that.

-=Mike

[2GOLD 0]

Who

the hell

cares

 

No one, let it go. Spend some time focusing on something that matters instead of defending a war record that has done nothing but dug a hole.

 

The Democrats cannot be this stupid. They can't. I completely refuse to believe that they will continue to focus on something that was old dead news instead of using this time to talk about policy instead of just defending a four month tour of duty where he may or may not have done something.

 

Bush defeated a PRISONER OF WAR, do you honestly think saying "I WAS ON A BOAT AND WON MEDALS" is going to win the election?

 

Move the hell on, no one cares. No one. Not even the Republicans truly care about this. Mike I doubt truly even cares about this.

[SuperJerk 0]

^Really?^

 

Its not like it matters, since people are by far and wide more interested in what the two candidates plan to do, rather than what happened 30 years ago.

 

I'm glad you agree with me.

 

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

 

Was that even a real sentence? I have no idea what you're talking about.

This is me being very much not surprised by that.

You really need to explain what you meant about Cleland, since the original statement followed no known laws of syntax or grammar.

 

You know my history how, snuffy?

 

Just curious (and this isn't an attack), what is your military background?

 

I was in the Navy, myself, but have no combat experience.

[Guest MikeSC]

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

Was that even a real sentence? I have no idea what you're talking about.

This is me being very much not surprised by that.

You really need to explain what you meant about Cleland, since the original statement followed no known laws of syntax or grammar.

You are aware of how Cleeland GOT his injures, right?

You know my history how, snuffy?

 

Just curious (and this isn't an attack), what is your military background?

 

I was in the Navy, myself, but have no combat experience.

My background, to be generous, is none of your business.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

His...words...caused...deaths...?

 

Riiiiiight.

 

You are aware of how Cleeland GOT his injures, right?

"Cleeland" lost his limbs in Vietnam. I understand this, but the statement:

 

Then again, if Cleeland was irresponsible here rather than in Vietnam, he'd have not had a career at all, so them's the breaks.

 

...is about as clear as a brick wall. I was asking you to clarify your wording. I find your improper use of the word "irresponsible" confusing.

 

Are you saying Cleland was wounded because he was irresponsible in Vietnam? That's a pretty cheap shot.

 

 

My background, to be generous, is none of your business.

 

Typical.

 

Let me make something clear. I do not beleive that Kerry's service alone qualifies him to be president. I do not beleive that Bush's service disqualifies him from being president. What I am sick of is seeing veterans having their service record criticized by people who weren't even there. This has nothing to do with my support for Kerry, as I'd do (and have done) the same for John McCain, Bob Dole, and George H.W. Bush.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

It's a shame that the Navy is smearing the noble Swift Boat Veterans while refusing to answer their charges.

 

Damn you Navy! Damn you!

 

[snuffbox 0]

This is just another reason why Bush/Cheney are correct...

 

V.A. benefits simply must be cut. Too much irresponsibility amongst our soldiers, and, besides, they dont really need benefits do they?

[Guest MikeSC]

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

His...words...caused...deaths...?

 

Riiiiiight.

Yup. Men were tortured to death over what he said. God only knows what he said when he met with the N. Vietnamese.

You are aware of how Cleeland GOT his injures, right?

"Cleeland" lost his limbs in Vietnam. I understand this, but the statement:

Then again, if Cleeland was irresponsible here rather than in Vietnam, he'd have not had a career at all, so them's the breaks.

...is about as clear as a brick wall. I was asking you to clarify your wording. I find your improper use of the word "irresponsible" confusing.

 

Are you saying Cleland was wounded because he was irresponsible in Vietnam? That's a pretty cheap shot.

Cleeland lost his arms from screwing around with a grenade that fell off a helicopter.

 

Call it a cheap shot if you wish. It's also very much the case. Don't blame me because the facts are what they are. He gained a career because he was irresponsible in Vietnam.

 

As has been pointed out, if this happened during training in the US, he wouldn't have had a career (though his Senatorial career was a whole lot of nothing anyway for his one, useless term).

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

His...words...caused...deaths...?

 

Riiiiiight.

Yup. Men were tortured to death over what he said. God only knows what he said when he met with the N. Vietnamese.

Welcome to fantasy-land.

 

 

Cleeland lost his arms from screwing around with a grenade that fell off a helicopter.

 

Call it a cheap shot if you wish. It's also very much the case. Don't blame me because the facts are what they are. He gained a career because he was irresponsible in Vietnam.

 

As has been pointed out, if this happened during training in the US, he wouldn't have had a career (though his Senatorial career was a whole lot of nothing anyway for his one, useless term).

You gotta love it when right-wingers believe their own propaganda.

 

I also think its funny you can't spell his name right. You've been adding that extra "e" over and over, BTW.

[Guest MikeSC]

He...didn't...do...squat.

If you really want to beleive that, I guess that's your right. That doesn't make it true, though.

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

His...words...caused...deaths...?

 

Riiiiiight.

Yup. Men were tortured to death over what he said. God only knows what he said when he met with the N. Vietnamese.

Welcome to fantasy-land.

 

 

Kerry did meet with the N. Vietnamese. Those were his own words.

Cleeland lost his arms from screwing around with a grenade that fell off a helicopter.

 

Call it a cheap shot if you wish. It's also very much the case. Don't blame me because the facts are what they are. He gained a career because he was irresponsible in Vietnam.

 

As has been pointed out, if this happened during training in the US, he wouldn't have had a career (though his Senatorial career was a whole lot of nothing anyway for his one, useless term).

You gotta love it when right-wingers believe their own propaganda.

 

I also think its funny you can't spell his name right. You've been adding that extra "e" over and over, BTW.

As if I give two shits how to spell his name.

 

The story on how that sandy vagina lost three of his limbs is true.

 

Hell, since anything said about him will be called "questioniong his patriotism" --- I say the right actually starts questioning it.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

Kerry did meet with the N. Vietnamese. Those were his own words.

Riiiight.

 

As if I give two shits how to spell his name.

Yeah, fuck credibility.

 

The story on how that sandy vagina lost three of his limbs is true.

 

Hell, since anything said about him will be called "questioniong his patriotism" --- I say the right actually starts questioning it.

 

Is it okay if I challenge your patriotism? You've given me more reason to than Cleland has.

[Guest MikeSC]

Kerry did meet with the N. Vietnamese. Those were his own words.

Riiiight.

His own words. Hell, do a smidgeon of research.

As if I give two shits how to spell his name.

Yeah, fuck credibility.

I'll just call him S.V, for you.

The story on how that sandy vagina lost three of his limbs is true.

 

Hell, since anything said about him will be called "questioniong his patriotism" --- I say the right actually starts questioning it.

 

Is it okay if I challenge your patriotism? You've given me more reason to than Cleland has.

Feel free.

 

Keep in mind I'll question yours even more.

 

And in less pleasant tones.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

Feel free.

I wasn't serious, but it figures you'd think that'd be an okay thing to do.

[Vyce 0]

Kerry did meet with the N. Vietnamese. Those were his own words.

Riiiight.

Look, I'm actually going to come to your defense here.

 

Just stop. Please.

 

Because when you start saying things like this, when the actual historical facts prove you WRONG, it just makes you look like a moron.

 

So stop.

[Guest MikeSC]

Feel free.

I wasn't serious, but it figures you'd think that'd be an okay thing to do.

Why should something be wrong to ask? You have every right to ask whatever you want.

-=Mike

[SuperJerk 0]

Kerry did meet with the N. Vietnamese. Those were his own words.

Riiiight.

Look, I'm actually going to come to your defense here.

 

Just stop. Please.

 

Because when you start saying things like this, when the actual historical facts prove you WRONG, it just makes you look like a moron.

 

So stop.

Please note that Mike never actually posted what Kerry supposedly said to the North Vietnamese. Therefore, its hard to argue whether Kerry said it or not.

 

 

Thanks for your concern.

[Guest MikeSC]

Please note that Mike never actually posted what Kerry supposedly said to the North Vietnamese. Therefore, its hard to argue whether Kerry said it or not.

 

 

Thanks for your concern.

Hence the phrase "God only knows what he said to the N. Vietnamese".

 

You know, when he met them during the war.

-=Mike

[BX 0]

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

Holy Shit. He's killed by merely speaking?

 

You don't want this guy to be President why exactly, Mike?

 

If he could kill multiple U.S. soldiers from a statements he made testifying to Congress in the 60's, imagine what he could do with a worldwide prime time platform!!!!

 

He could send sonic deathwaves cascading over the Middle East and South East Asia! Millions of sub-humans dead in a manner of hours, fuck, minutes! We could finally be rid of every Muslim (extremist or not) FOREVER!

 

Then, with all of our Enemies gone, we can begin the unharrased, forced conversion of every adult American male to Homosexuality!!!!!!!!

 

We'll drive all of the doctors out of business through litigation! Except we'll then give them money again if they'll agree to provide forced abortions to Protestant teenagers!

 

What a Glorious Day! Kerry/Edwards 2004 FOREVER

 

[Guest MikeSC]

His words caused more deaths than the one life he saved. What a hero.

Holy Shit. He's killed by merely speaking?

Yup.

You don't want this guy to be President why exactly, Mike?

Why should I want him to be President? He's offered no reason for it.

-=Mike

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

BX, where were Kerry's sonic deathwaves when we needed sonic deathwaves the most?

 

And I suspect Kerry could cover the "why you should vote for me" thing around a debate or something like that. Since I think all three debates get a last statement (Bush's last statement in one of the 2000 debates was "If you're voting for my opponent, please vote only once")