Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Jr.'s response will make this or break it............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Cheney isnt attacking as viciously as some thought on this trial-lawyer thing.. good idea, imo. Cheney doesn't DO vicious attacks. His entire persona is so deadly serious that any criticism tends to be biting. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 OK how many times is Edwards gonna do the 'fundamental difference between them and us' thing? Showing that difference is the inherant idea behind the concept of debate... Yet Bush repeating points ad nauseum is OMGDUMBFUCK2004!~.................... pleae stop with the juvenile capslock stuff please... The difference - Bush repeating immature sounding lines like 'flipflop, flipflop, flipflop'...Edwards is stating 'the difference between them and us'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Hey, they have a plan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Found the case: Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1, 12 (1967) I'll look it up and link a summary. http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f...law/loving.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 John Kerry and I HAVE A PLAN!!! Plus, it isn't the lawyers Edwards, IT IS THE JUDGES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 OK how many times is Edwards gonna do the 'fundamental difference between them and us' thing? Showing that difference is the inherant idea behind the concept of debate... Yet Bush repeating points ad nauseum is OMGDUMBFUCK2004!~.................... pleae stop with the juvenile capslock stuff please... The difference - Bush repeating immature sounding lines like 'flipflop, flipflop, flipflop'...Edwards is stating 'the difference between them and us'. You telling me about juvenile It's like Kerry saying he's strong and unwaver..........aw fuck it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 The problem with Edwards plan is that it requires LAWYERS to serve as the overseers of the system, regardless. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 If I hear "...we have a plan..." one more time I'm going to go insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Edwards is ruling this wrongful lawsuits case. Much better defense than Cheneys Halliburton stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 If I hear "...we have a plan..." one more time I'm going to go insane. Edwards and Kerry have a plan for that kind of thing, ya know... -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Holy shit THAT was an underwhelming response................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMann2003 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Edwards just screwed up... IIRC, in the 1960s the Supreme Court DID rule that states have to accept interracial marriages from another state. Wasn't aware of that, But (and saying this could bring conflict with me and my girlfriend's family) I'm not for a Constitutional ban anyway. (Incidentally, limiting a marriage and its benefits to a man and woman also can affect no-married heterosexual couples with children, as the ban issue on the ballot in Ohio would if passed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted the Poster 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 These guys seem much more comfortable with each other than Bush and Kerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Czech- he was born in SC and raised here in NC... I think. I always forget which Carolina he's from and which he represents...perhaps I'm "flip-flopping"! Har har har! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 I have a plan = It's not my fault.................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 These guys seem much more comfortable with each other than Bush and Kerry. They lack the personal animosity. -=Mike ...I don't think Cheney even remotely takes him seriously, honestly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 "We THINK we have a plan..." "We will do what they haven't done." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 These guys seem much more comfortable with each other than Bush and Kerry. They lack the personal animosity. -=Mike ...I don't think Cheney even remotely takes his seriously, honestly... Perhaps this is why he has started to visibly weaken in the domestic issue debate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Excerpts from the case summary: "There is patently no legitimate overriding purpose independent of invidious racial discrimination which justifies this classification. The fact that Virginia prohibits only interracial marriages involving white persons demonstrates that the racial classifications must stand on their own justification, as measures designed to maintain White Supremacy. We have consistently denied the constitutionality of measures which restrict the rights of citizens on account of race. There can be no doubt that restricting the freedom to marry solely because of racial classifications violates the central meaning of the Equal Protection Clause. II. These statutes also deprive the Lovings of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men. Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest INXS Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Does anyone else think that Edwards has a plan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Double post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Cheney isnt attacking as viciously as some thought on this trial-lawyer thing.. good idea, imo. Cheney doesn't DO vicious attacks. His entire persona is so deadly serious that any criticism tends to be biting. -=Mike Dont tell that Leahey bloke about that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 OK how many times is Edwards gonna do the 'fundamental difference between them and us' thing? Showing that difference is the inherant idea behind the concept of debate... Yet Bush repeating points ad nauseum is OMGDUMBFUCK2004!~.................... pleae stop with the juvenile capslock stuff please... The difference - Bush repeating immature sounding lines like 'flipflop, flipflop, flipflop'...Edwards is stating 'the difference between them and us'. You telling me about juvenile It's like Kerry saying he's strong and unwaver..........aw fuck it Just dont do the capslock thing...is it that hard not to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Cheney just slaughtered Edwards on his corporation status and killed the myth about the 17% increase in Medicare premiums. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 -2 against Cheney for not answering the question regarding AIDS in the US Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 OK how many times is Edwards gonna do the 'fundamental difference between them and us' thing? Showing that difference is the inherant idea behind the concept of debate... Yet Bush repeating points ad nauseum is OMGDUMBFUCK2004!~.................... pleae stop with the juvenile capslock stuff please... The difference - Bush repeating immature sounding lines like 'flipflop, flipflop, flipflop'...Edwards is stating 'the difference between them and us'. You telling me about juvenile It's like Kerry saying he's strong and unwaver..........aw fuck it Just dont do the capslock thing...is it that hard not to? I did it with the It's not my fault I have a plan bit. Fluffy's lecturing me, oooooooooooooooooooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatWhiteNope 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Edwards - we're talking about the domestic AIDS problem. Shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2004 Whats the total score so far TripleR? Or are you even tallying all this up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 6, 2004 It's a bigger question that that: We have a plan!!!!!!! Oh god back to healthcare............................c'mon Edwards at least work in a Missy Johnson story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
