Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 9, 2004 This is a memo, reportedly from ABCNews' Political Director Mark Halperin Halperin Memo Dated Friday October 8, 2004 It goes without saying that the stakes are getting very high for the country and the campaigns - and our responsibilities become quite grave I do not want to set off (sp?) and endless colloquy that none of us have time for today - nor do I want to stifle one. Please respond if you feel you can advance the discussion. The New York Times (Nagourney/Stevenson) and Howard Fineman on the web both make the same point today: the current Bush attacks on Kerry involve distortions and taking things out of context in a way that goes beyond what Kerry has done. Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win. We have a responsibility to hold both sides accountable to the public interest, but that doesn't mean we reflexively and artificially hold both sides "equally" accountable when the facts don't warrant that. I'm sure many of you have this week felt the stepped up Bush efforts to complain about our coverage. This is all part of their efforts to get away with as much as possible with the stepped up, renewed efforts to win the election by destroying Senator Kerry at least partly through distortions. It's up to Kerry to defend himself, of course. But as one of the few news organizations with the skill and strength to help voters evaluate what the candidates are saying to serve the public interest. Now is the time for all of us to step up and do that right. An image of the memo is here. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Conspiracy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 9, 2004 Kerry distorts, takes out of context, and mistakes all the time, but these are not central to his efforts to win. Holy crap is that funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Pot, kettle, black.... http://forums.thesmartmarks.com/index.php?showtopic=62073 [EDIT]-Nice of you, Mike, not to mention that the source is Drudge, whose legitimacy you have personally questioned in the past. Like I said a few weeks ago, Mike, you can't have it both ways. Either Drudge is always completely true, or his statements are often questioned as being truthful or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 12, 2004 BTW, nobody has uttered a single word about the memo possibly being false. Not ABC, not left-wing blogs, nobody. So --- we can now LEGITIMATELY discount anything CBS and ABC say. Thank God for the internet at this rate. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Baron 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 BTW, nobody has uttered a single word about the memo possibly being false. Not ABC, not left-wing blogs, nobody. So --- we can now LEGITIMATELY discount anything CBS and ABC say. Thank God for the internet at this rate. -=Mike and discount Fox News and CNN. So that leaves NBC, and that's pretty horrible too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jobber of the Week 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 I think it's kind of funny that all these "liberal biased" news sources are owned by conservatives. I mean, Disney? Come on, some years ago Roy Disney (the guy on the board that got kicked out early this year) made a comment that Mickey is "a good, Republican mouse." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CBright7831 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well, Mickey Mouse is the number one write in vote. He gets almost 100 votes each election. And I'm not joking with you either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well, Mickey Mouse is the number one write in vote. He gets almost 100 votes each election. And I'm not joking with you either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Thank you for the update, Mike! Please continue to post potential conspiracies that will never catch on until Nov. 3, 2004. Without it, Current Events would not nearly have so many posts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well, I read this story in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review this past Sunday, so it must be true. Shit, Scaife owns that paper. Nevermind... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 so.. if I am running against Mike, and he makes a little false claim, and I claim that he's in favor of banning all religions other than the Southern Baptists.. then I should expect his lie to get the same coverage as my lie. Sweet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 What I get a kick out of is that Kerry's lies are not central to getting elected. Like how he is saying that Bush and pals are already planning on disenfranchising millions of black voters. Oh, wait. Bush is actually doing that. Oops, I let the Master Plan out of the bag... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 12, 2004 so.. if I am running against Mike, and he makes a little false claim, and I claim that he's in favor of banning all religions other than the Southern Baptists.. then I should expect his lie to get the same coverage as my lie. Sweet! Except you can't really point to a bigger Bush lie than Kerry lies, right? I think it's kind of funny that all these "liberal biased" news sources are owned by conservatives. I mean, Disney? Come on, some years ago Roy Disney (the guy on the board that got kicked out early this year) made a comment that Mickey is "a good, Republican mouse." Except the ties between OWNERSHIP'S views and the news reported is not exactly clear and evident --- WHILE the ties between a REPORTER'S or PRODUCER'S view and the news is clear to all. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Except you can't really point to a bigger Bush lie than Kerry lies, right? WMDs STOOPID... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Except you can't really point to a bigger Bush lie than Kerry lies, right? WMDs STOOPID... But,but,but...Iraq has had nuclear materials recently vanish. I'm still waiting for somebody to explain THAT story... -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Ha -- just heard that if Kerry is elected, cripples will walk again. Has nothing to do with the topic -- I just can't believe I heard that. Well, actually, I can, but you get the point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Terror 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 The most troubling thing about the memo is the 8th grade level of writing ability that the political director of ABC news displays. Oh, but I'm sure Drudge fabricated it anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 12, 2004 The most troubling thing about the memo is the 8th grade level of writing ability that the political director of ABC news displays. Oh, but I'm sure Drudge fabricated it anyway... Well, neither ABC nor Halperin have made that claim as of yet. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Terror 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Well, neither ABC nor Halperin have made that claim as of yet I was joking but I'm sure there are those that confuse The Daily Show and Drudge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 so.. if I am running against Mike, and he makes a little false claim, and I claim that he's in favor of banning all religions other than the Southern Baptists.. then I should expect his lie to get the same coverage as my lie. Sweet! Except you can't really point to a bigger Bush lie than Kerry lies, right? For the sake of accuracy. What Bush markets are deceptions, which aren't technically lies. Anyways, Bush can just claim anything said against Kerry was based on faulty intelligence. Some Vice President steered me here http://factcheck.org/ and it appears that Bush isn't being totally honest either. Imagine that. Either way, if you misrepresent my tax plan, and I claim you're going to let the Pope control South Carolina, then the media has to cover it evenly. Even if my claim may be the core of my campaign. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Hmm, the Dems have implied that Bush wants a draft. The Dems have implied that the war in Afghanistan was for oil. The Dems have implied that Halliburton is suddenly getting oil contracts. The Dems have implied that Cheney makes money on Halliburton's deals. The Dems have implied that the Republicans want to disenfranchise black voters. The Dems have implied that Bush made up intel to go into Iraq. But, it's Bush who tells the bigger lies that are more central to his campaign? Yeah, I can see Halperin's point. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tom 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Remember Chris Rock's bit about the differences in lying between men and women? "A man's lie is, 'I was at Bobby's house.' A woman's lie is, 'It's your baby.'" Democrats = women Hey, it explains a lot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
