JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2004 Instead of doing one show a day, I thought I'd do one WWF and one WCW show a week (and sometimes an ECW show too), all within one thread. Post your thoughts on the shows. Have you seen them? Are they good or bad? Best and worst matches? Favorite moments? Other thoughts? The shows for this week are: ======================================================= WrestleMania XIV "X-Raided" March 29, 1998 in Boston, MA Fleet Center drawing 19,028 ($1,029,230) Shown live on PPV (2.3) 1. LOD 2000 won a "tag team battle royal" (8:19). The other teams in the match were: Savio Vega & Miguel Perez, Recon & Sniper, Chainz & Bradshaw, D-Lo Brown & Mark Henry, The Quebecers, The Rock-n-Roll Express, Jesus Castillo & Jose Estrada, The Headbangers, Scott Taylor & Brian Christopher, Steve Blackman & Flash Funk, The Godwinns, Skull & Eight Ball, Farooq & Kama, and Bob Holly & Bart Gunn. 2. WWF Light Heavyweight Champ Taka Michinoku pinned Aguila (5:57). 3. WWF European Champ Hunter Hearst Helmsley pinned Owen Hart (11:29). 4. Marc Mero & Sable beat Goldust & Luna (9:11) when Sable pinned Luna. 5. WWF I-C Champ Rocky Maivia beat Ken Shamrock (4:49) via DQ. 6. Terry Funk & Cactus Jack beat Billy Gunn & Jesse Jammes (10:01) in a "dumpster" match to win the WWF Tag Title. However, the belts were held-up due to a technicality. 7. The Undertaker pinned Kane (16:58). After the match, Kane piledrove Pete Rose. 8. Steve Austin pinned Shawn Michaels (20:02) to win the WWF World Title. Mike Tyson was the special referee. Guests: Gennifer Flowers, Pete Rose ================= Uncensored 1998 March 15, 1998 in Mobile, AL Civic Center drawing 7,474 ($150,135) Shown live on PPV (1.1) 1. WCW TV Champ Booker T pinned Eddie Guerrero (11:08). 2. Juventud Guerrera pinned Konnan (10:21). 3. WCW Cruiserweight Champ Chris Jericho beat Dean Malenko (14:42) via submission. 4. Lex Luger pinned Scott Steiner (3:53). 5. WCW U.S. Champ Diamond Dallas Page beat Chris Benoit and Raven (17:09) in a "triangle" match when Page pinned Raven. 6. The Giant beat Kevin Nash (6:36) via DQ. 7. Bret Hart beat Curt Hennig (13:51) via submission. 8. WCW World Champ Sting pinned Scott Hall (8:28). 9. Hulk Hogan NC Randy Savage (16:21) in a "steel cage" match. ========== Living Dangerously 1998 March 1, 1998 in Asbury Park, NJ Convention Center drawing 3,700 ($80,000) Shown live on PPV (0.19) 1. Jerry Lynn & Chris Chetti beat Tracey Smothers & Little Guido (8:19) when Lynn pinned Smothers. 2. Masato Tanaka pinned Doug Furnas (5:46). 3. Rob Van Dam pinned Too Cold Scorpio (22:09). 4. New Jack & Spike Dudley beat Buh Buh Ray & D-Von Dudley and Balls Mahoney & Axl Rotten (13:25) in a "three way dance." * Buh Buh pinned Mahoney (12:31). * New Jack pinned D-Von (13:25). 5. Tommy Dreamer pinned Justin Credible (8:58). 6. Bam Bam Bigelow pinned Taz (13:37) to win the ECW TV Title. 7. Sabu pinned Sandman (9:21) in a "dueling canes" match. This match was pre-taped. 8. Al Snow & Lance Storm beat Shane Douglas & Chris Candido (4:49) when Snow pinned Douglas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 WrestleMania 14 is one of my favorite ppvs ever...only WMs 17 an 20 are near it. Many good matches and memorable moments. This event was the key to the big WWF turnaround at the time. I havent seen the other 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 If you minus the Hogan / Savage match, I think Uncensored was WCW's best PPV of 1998. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algrim 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Living Dangerously was also a very good show. The Taz/ Bigelow match was very good, and the Van Dam/ Scorpio bout was about *** IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deancoles 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Why did Scott Steiner job in 3 minutes? was he carrying an injury or were they running out of time? Seems pointless jobbing him a month after his big heel turn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slickster 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Why/how was the 'dueling canes' match pretaped? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Why/how was the 'dueling canes' match pretaped? Well, not sure if this was a work or not (I believe it was..), but the way it was explained on the show. The PPV carriers deemed it too violent of a match to be shown live as the opportunity for someone to get seriously hurt was too great. So the match went on first, before the PPV itself began. I think the deal of explaining it was that the match was to be released on video-tape, only edited to suit. Anyway, after Bigelow/Taz there was the whole commotion about part of the ring being broken. Styles started talking about Sabu/Sandman, before Paul.E came to the desk. The two hard an arguement, before Paul.E ordered for the Sandman/Sabu match to be shown. Which it then was. So, it's possible that the match went on first so they had something to show while 'repairing' the ring or maybe because Sabu/Sandman needed the full ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cawthon777 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2004 Why did Scott Steiner job in 3 minutes? was he carrying an injury or were they running out of time? Seems pointless jobbing him a month after his big heel turn. Scott may have done the big heel turn at SuperBrawl but it was Rick Steiner that got the push in 98, even single handedly beating the Giant & Scott in a handicap match at Halloween Havoc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 I have to say I like WM14 and Uncensored 98 a lot. Uncensored was quite good for a WCW PPV, with several good/solid matches. WM14 is one of my most-watched PPVs of all time. Nothing hits **** on the show, but there's a lot of fun stuff on it, like the main event, Kane/Taker as a guilty pleasure match, the fun mixed tag match, a tag team title match with a few okay spots, and a very solid HHH/Owen match. Just a fun show all around that is very important for obvious historical reasons as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Si82 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 WWF Wrestlemania XIV was a great card. Not only from a the historical sense of it, being the first big step on the comeback against WCW, but also for good quality action. Stuff like Owen/Triple H, Mero & Sable/Goldust & Luna, Cactus & Chainsaw /NAO and Michaels/Austin all provided pleanty of entertainment. Good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BUTT 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 Uncensored wasn't too bad, other than the awful non-finish in the awful main event. My favorite part was Gene Okerlund's interview with Malenko after he lost to Jericho. "Dean Malenko, that's four losses in a row for you. Starrcade, Souled Out, Superbrawl, and now Uncensored. That makes you a bona fide loser!" Even though Malenko didn't even wrestle at Souled Out or Superbrawl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter's Torn Quad 0 Report post Posted October 16, 2004 Why/how was the 'dueling canes' match pretaped? Well, not sure if this was a work or not (I believe it was..), but the way it was explained on the show. The PPV carriers deemed it too violent of a match to be shown live as the opportunity for someone to get seriously hurt was too great. So the match went on first, before the PPV itself began. I think the deal of explaining it was that the match was to be released on video-tape, only edited to suit. Anyway, after Bigelow/Taz there was the whole commotion about part of the ring being broken. Styles started talking about Sabu/Sandman, before Paul.E came to the desk. The two hard an arguement, before Paul.E ordered for the Sandman/Sabu match to be shown. Which it then was. So, it's possible that the match went on first so they had something to show while 'repairing' the ring or maybe because Sabu/Sandman needed the full ring. It was a work. Everyone knew how horrible Sandman v Sabu was at NotR '97, and rather than risk putting on another horrible match on live PPV, Heyman came up with this creative excuse for having to tape their next match. That way, if it was bad as NotR's affair, they could edit it into something decent. It also, as mentioned, allowed them to show something while the ring was repaired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
