Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Packers top SI players' poll Laura Veras Marran - PackerReport.com October 20, 2004 at 12:16am ET NFL players have confirmed what Packer fans already know: A poll released in today's issue of Sports Illustrated names Green Bay as the league's classiest organization. In a poll of 354 players, 18 percent named the Packers organization as the best in the NFL. The next highest vote-getter was San Francisco with 15 percent. Dallas and New England each received 10 percent. The poll, part of the SI Players section, also asked athletes to name the league's worst organization. The Arizona Cardinals "won" that category, getting a whopping 30 percent of the vote. The Cincinnati Bengals were also big vote-getters with 24 percent. The Chargers (10%) and Raiders (7%) round out the bottom four. Oakland is the only organization with an overall winning record to rank among the four worst franchises. Actually I thought it'd be San Francisco to be honest, but it's nice to see the place that noone ever wanted to play in is now a favorable team to play for. And how the hell did Dallas make the top 5? I'd actually switch around the `Boys and the Raiders, say what you want about Al Davis' crew, but you can't negate their tradition and commitment to excellence, as they like to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I am surprised there were no mentions of the Steelers, as most of the time their ownership gets nothing BUT praise from people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I am surprised there were no mentions of the Steelers, as most of the time their ownership gets nothing BUT praise from people. The Steelers are just evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Players LIKE New England? I'm a little shocked by that actually. Guess Super Bowl rings makes you awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 No, the Raiders should not top a "classiest team" poll. Neither should the Cowboys for their coke-fiend era, for that matter. How did the Cardinals get to be voted as the worst organization? iI mean, yeah, they should, but I figured they'd get a free pass because most people are unaware that the Cardinals exist, and would thus vote for the Bengals or some such team. Also: The Chicago Bears are just as classy, if not moreso, than the Green Bay Packers. We honor the memory of George Halas. They dive into crowds of fat men and women sporting cheese wedges on their heads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago got a lot of respect. But they still have one less championship overall than the Packers, and 2 less Super Bowls. You may have George Halas, but we have Vince Lombardi.. You know, the guy they named the NFL Championship trophy after.. Whereas the bears have guys named Refridgerator and Butkus. Huh huh, Butkus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 What is so classy about the Cowboys? What nobody remembers how Jerry Jones fires coaches or lets legendary players go without any fanfare? PS the 'boys had Ditka before da bears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago got a lot of respect. But they still have one less championship overall than the Packers, and 2 less Super Bowls. You may have George Halas, but we have Vince Lombardi.. You know, the guy they named the NFL Championship trophy after.. Whereas the bears have guys named Refridgerator and Butkus. Huh huh, Butkus. Oh here's some Packer class: How many times does 89 go into 17? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 The Steelers are just evil. How so? I'm curious. (Besides the fact Tyler represents them in my contest, that is...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Oh, I forgot. I'm surprised the Cards only got 30 percent. Fucking Bidwell -- I'm hoping Denny Green can turn that team around, and even with the crappy record it seems to me he's doing a decent enough job. AZ seems to be playing harder this year, which is always the first step to making a turnaround... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 20, 2004 I am surprised there were no mentions of the Steelers, as most of the time their ownership gets nothing BUT praise from people. The Steelers are just evil. You just upset because your team mascot could technically be a piece of poop there buddy. Steelers > Browns............... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Any and all ill will towards the 'Skins franchise can be attributed to one Mr. Dan Snyder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Tyler; Captain America 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 ^ agreed. And STFU Browns fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 20, 2004 ^ agreed. And STFU Browns fan. - Sad thing.....Mad Dog is a cool guy.......if he could only give up the Brownies and see the light.....what a shame, OH, what a shame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Any and all ill will towards the 'Skins franchise can be attributed to one Mr. Dan Snyder. Mr. Synder is a 3rd rate Al Davis that wishes he was Jerry Jones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sass 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 The Cardinals and the Chargers have been run by some of the most inept generations of families for as long as they've been around. The Bidwell's are clueless and the Spanos Goofs are a sick joke. They should have their own section in SI. Al Davis is an asshole. He can be a giant prick to coaches (and players) but his "go for the throat" approach has helped make the Raiders the winningest organization in football. Sometimes people can't handle that mantra and feel scummy for acting like a "thug" as Art Shell put it when he got canned as Raiders coach in '95. You've gotta have a thug mentality in order to play on the Raiders and not turn bitter against Davis and his winning methods and ideologies. The Chicago Bears are not classy. They are run by a cheap prick that helped tear apart the team in the early 90's with no plan for rebuilding in the future. Coach Ditka has no kind words for the current ownership and neither does any other ex-Bears player who saw the team collapse (Jim McMahon will talk for hours about how shitty Chicago was if you ask him). The Halas family has been less than pleased with how sorry the team has been over the last 15 years. The great grand daughter of Papa Bear Halas coming out last year and raking the team over the coals for not signing Kurt Warner is one thing I can recall in recent time. The Rooney families are good people. Pittsburgh has a good environment and the sons have done their old man proud. Big Ben could be the "real deal" and that's a good start to regaining the SB form the team had in the 70's. Jerry Jones is a great owner, along the same vein as Al Davis...but less willing to stir shit up with NFL front office folks. He might be a shrewd owner at times but his "win, win, win" attitude helped make Dallas the NFL juggernaut of the 90's after a sub par 80's decade. Mike Brown is fucked. When his old man died in 1990, the team died with him. He's the youngest owner in the league but has no idea how to run a team. He's got a long road ahead of him. Wayne Heizanga is a tough, but savvy, old bastard of an owner and secret mob boss who will have your legs broken if you utter a single bad word about him or his team. No one is going to say shit about the 'fins. The Miami sun is also a big plus for players. Dan Snyder is a fuck-up for a human being as well as an NFL team owner. Maybe he'll learn something down the road. Next. Eddie Bartolo was the fuckin man. He'd spend like mad to accommodate his players and made them feel like good human beings. Christmas was always special with the 49ers. Hell, he even tried to beat the shit out of some fan who threw a cup at him. That's just crazy. He needs to come back. Jonathan York is a lucky bastard for marrying Eddie's sister. That's the only positive thing I can say about him otherwise. Robert Kraft is a fan and an owner. He was a season ticket holder since 1971 and came to every game until he bought the team. He loves the Patriots and there's just no questioning that. He seems like a pretty cool guy to have around as an owner. Just don't let him dance in public. The Irsay family...I am shocked that the Irsay spawn didn't get deep-sixed in SI for the mess that Irsay Sr. caused when he moved the Colts from Baltimore in the middle of the night in '83. What a scumbag. This guy should get shat on for being Satan, not Al Davis. At least he's won something in the last 20 years unlike NoSay family. They *really* do deserve to have a piece written on them by SI or shown on ESPN that goes in-depth about how unfaithful they are towards their football fans in the upcoming months. The Colts have been used several times as LA bait by the Irsay family in getting their demands met by saying they'd move the team like they did 20 years ago. Assholes. The Glazer family hit gold (JEWISH~! gold to be precise) with the Bucs 2002 SB victory so they managed to do something right. It just seems like the Bucs are a play thing for Malcolm Glazer since he's tried to make bids to owning an MLB, NHL and a Soccer club (Manchester U looks like it'll be swallowed up in a hostile takeover if Glazer accumulates enough stock control, something he has been buying up a lot of this last year). The Vikings are owned by a guy who sold cars. He knows how to wheel and deal. Red Combs knows how to get folks to drink the Minnesota Kool-aid. He's got shit to show though except stolen Conference Championship games from the LA Rams. Again, this is another douche bag owner who has waved the LA carrot in front of the NFL when things haven't gone his way. Speaking of... Georgia Frontiere might just be the scariest owner in the league. Wayne Heizanga has nothing on this bitch. 9 husbands. Wow. The last one drowned after going on one of his routine swims...his name? Dan Reeves, former owner of the Los Angeles Rams. Georgia is a slick, slick gold digger. Reeves' son was supposed to takeover for dad when he'd die but instead Georgia got the team after overseeing a reworking of the will that her hubby "insisted" she make for him in the event he died. My hat goes off to Lady Frontiere. Ironically, Jerry Richardson, the owner of the Carolina Panthers, is the only other owner besides Al Davis (who was a coach in San Diego) who has an actual clue about football and can be able to talk shit to his staff without looking like a douche. He was a player for the Colts during the 50's and invested his money well. He's got a good club and I can see them winning an SB in 5 years time if John Fox sticks around. Green Bay is in the freezingest fuckin place in the western world so I would hope the owners would be super nice people with great facilities to work in. Lambeau has a lot of history and the front office has utilized this well. I'm not familiar with the new owner for the Atlanta Falcons but he got slapped with a sexual harassment lawsuit not too long ago so maybe he's got a seedy side to him. Everyone else...don't care. The Bills and the Seahawks can fly away for all I care. Losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoCalMike 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2004 Any and all ill will towards the 'Skins franchise can be attributed to one Mr. Dan Snyder. Mr. Synder is a 3rd rate Al Davis that wishes he was Jerry Jones. Give him time..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 20, 2004 ^ agreed. And STFU Browns fan. - Sad thing.....Mad Dog is a cool guy.......if he could only give up the Brownies and see the light.....what a shame, OH, what a shame. I don't hate the Steelers that much. Especially after that jackass Modell ran off with the Browns in the mid 90s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 OK, so Mr. Dog is a Browns fan -- understandable. I always thought the Steelers ownership was good. A bit cheap in many aspects, but good... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Yeah, the Steelers have been a pretty good organization, my jabs aside. Compared to the Pirates and Penguins owners they're saints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkktookmybabyaway 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 I'll admit they screwed my n*gga Gary Andersen over (it's OK to call him that -- he is African-American after all), but I was shocked when I learned a few years ago they were one of the more higher spending teams in the league in terms of signing bonuses and stuff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snuffbox 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2004 Oh here's some Packer class: How many times does 89 go into 17? He was released for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted October 21, 2004 And he never admitted to having sex at all with the babysitter either, unlike a certain No. 8 we all know.. (though we wouldn't know since it'd be illegal if he did, consensual or not) Oh, and .19 times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted October 21, 2004 I'll admit they screwed my n*gga Gary Andersen over (it's OK to call him that -- he is African-American after all), but I was shocked when I learned a few years ago they were one of the more higher spending teams in the league in terms of signing bonuses and stuff... I will give the Steelers organization some credit where it is due. They used to have a problem with resigning players. After they screwed up by letting Gary Anderson and Rod Woodson go...............I think they may have learned their lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
