mike546 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Actually, Jeter doesn't get many web gems during the season. His best Defensive plays come during he playoffs or big games, something I guess your not accustomed too being a Cubs fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 You need infielders too. Last I checked, the Yankees only had three, Jeter, A-Rod, and Tino Martinez. Tony Womack? Just because a player is in the big leagues does not make him a big league caliber player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 You need infielders too. Last I checked, the Yankees only had three, Jeter, A-Rod, and Tino Martinez. Tony Womack? Just because a player is in the big leagues does not make him a big league caliber player. "That goes for you too, Jason Phillips!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Wolmack isn't a MLB caliber player? Sure, he'll get injured a lot, but theres a lot worse than him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Well, Womack had a career best .307/.349/.385 line last year. He also was above average in range despite 15 errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Wolmack isn't a MLB caliber player? Sure, he'll get injured a lot, but theres a lot worse than him. It might be hyperbole to say he isn't MLB caliber, but he's fairly bad. At 34, he set career highs in BA, OBP, and SLG. His career high OBP was .349, and his career high slugging percentage was .385. That works out to a below average OPS and OPS=, in the best year he's ever had! In 553 at bats, he collected 30 extra base hits. Next year, its very likely his batting average will fall to his career average of .271, and his OBP will fall to .319. That's near the bottom of the scale as far as full time players go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Do you honestly think him going back to his average hitting stats is REALLY going to affect the Yankees when it comes to scoring runs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted January 22, 2005 Do you honestly think him going back to his average hitting stats is REALLY going to affect the Yankees when it comes to scoring runs? Yes. Not to the extent that the Yankees will struggle to score runs, but they'll score less with Womack than with say, Andy Phillips. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 Well, Wolmack will be injured a lot, so he won't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted January 23, 2005 According to the New York Daily News, the O's offered Delgado a 4 year, 48 million dollar contract. That is a big jump up from where they had been (3 years, 30 million). It seems as if they've decided to move away from the conservative approach to at least make a run at one big name. That contract isn't outrageous or anything, though I don't think it'll be enough in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruiser Chong 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 I absolutely have to stop thinking Delgado is a catcher cuz I just did the same thing while reading this that I did when I read that the Marlins had resigned LoDuca: "Why do they need him, don't they still have Javy Lopez?" Considering how few games Delgado had actually caught in his MLB career, I don't know why I still find it hard to remember he plays first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 Astros sign John Franco and have pretty much guaranteed him a roster spot. What a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 But you can't put value on this... http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/bb/3005449 The Astros have signed pitcher John Franco to a one-year, $700,000 contract to serve as the club’s situational lefthander, providing veteran leadership for a bullpen that sorely lacked a veteran presence. Why do baseball writers even get paid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike546 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2005 Who the hell needs veteran leadership when you have Brad Lidge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Astros sign John Franco and have pretty much guaranteed him a roster spot. What a joke. So the Mets lose Franco and get Beltran and the Astros lose Beltran and get Franco. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Football season is over. Baseball needs to hurry up and start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Theres like, a .00000000001% chance that Delgado will sign with the Orioles, even if the money is more than the other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted January 24, 2005 I'd like him to go to Baltimore to keep him out of the NL East, but I'm thinking he'll go with the Mets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Football season is over. Baseball needs to hurry up and start. Damn right. It's a month and a half until they show the first televised ST game for the Mets. I really don't want my baseball fix during that month and a half being Yankee "classics" (OH NOES JETER DOVE INTO THE STANDS, LET'S SUCK HIS COCK; how many times do I have to see the Yanks 1996 home opener vs. the Royals --- yay, Bob Hamelin or WS games dubbed over by John Sterling and the other YES network announcers) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Televised Spring Training games? What are these you speak of? A's televise about one Cactus League game a year. This is actually a year I'd be interested in watching them with all the young newcomers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted January 24, 2005 apparently some teams are doing it now. I know the White Sox are talking about it, although I couldn't watch one becasue it would remind me of Jeremy Reed. *weeps* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Televised Spring Training games? What are these you speak of? A's televise about one Cactus League game a year. This is actually a year I'd be interested in watching them with all the young newcomers. There will be 12 televised ST games for the Mets March 2 vs. Nationals (1:05 ET, ESPN) March 3 vs. Cardinals (7:10, FSNY) March 11 vs. Dodgers (7:05, MSG) March 12 split-squad vs. Cardinals (1:10, FSNY) March 13 vs. Tigers (1:05, WPIX) March 17 vs. Nationals (1:05, MSG) March 19 vs. Marlins (1:05, WPIX) March 20 split-squad vs. Dodgers (1:10, MSG) March 22 vs. Braves (1:10, ESPN) March 25 vs. Marlins (7:05, FSNY) March 27 vs. Nationals (1:10, WPIX) April 2 vs. Marlins (7:10, FSNY) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrRant 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Sunday, January 23, 2005 ESPN.com news services The number of teams vying for Carlos Delgado was reduced from four to two teams Sunday night. Delgado's agent, David Sloane, told ESPN's Karl Ravech that the New York Mets were pulling out of the running for the free agent first baseman. Earlier Sunday night, the Texas Rangers abruptly withdrew from negotiations. This leaves Baltimore and Florida as the remaining bidders for Delgado. 2004 SEASON STATISTICS GM HR RBI R SB AVG 128 32 99 74 0 .269 Sloane said the Rangers told him on Sunday afternoon that if Delgado signed with Texas, he probably would be a designated hitter most of the time. "From the first conversation with the Texas Rangers, we made it crystal clear that Carlos Delgado had no interest in being a full-time DH," Sloane said. "If we had 25 conversations with the Texas Rangers, we were told in 24 of those that the question of him playing first base was no issue. Earlier today, we were told that is changing and that 75 percent of his at-bats, should he choose to sign with the Texas Rangers, would come as a DH. "After three months of negotiations, we were given less than five hours to tell them yes or no, to make a decision that affects not only the rest of Carlos Delgado's baseball career, but the rest of his life." All four teams had proposed four-year deals to Delgado, although it wasn't known if all four years were guaranteed by all teams. Rangers owner Tom Hicks met with Delgado in Puerto Rico and offered a $48 million, four-year contract. "Over the last few days, Tom Hicks and the organization reached out and made a very strong offer to Carlos Delgado," Texas general manager John Hart said. "We had a great meeting with Carlos on Friday where we exceeded the limits of our initial proposal. As of this evening, however, we could not get a commitment from him, so we are withdrawing from discussions with him. Proposed deals for Delgado* Marlins 3 years, $35 million Mets 4 years, $48 million** Orioles 4 years, $48 million-plus Rangers 4 years, $48 million** *According to published reports **Pulled off table Sunday night "He is a quality individual, but we want to continue to be committed with our young players and development plan. We have a first baseman in Mark Teixeira and other young players that we do not want to disrupt with potential position changes. Tom Hicks is not, and was not, afraid to spend money to add players like Carlos to our club." Hicks implied that the Rangers didn't want Delgado to use their offer as a springboard. "We were clear that we were giving it our best shot Friday at the meeting. Others have now raised their offers, which is why we insisted on a deadline late this afternoon," he said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "We called them this morning to clarify that our interest in Carlos was restricted to him being a DH for 60-70 percent of the time, since we already have a great, young first baseman in Mark Teixeira." Earlier Sunday, Sloane said Delgado was nearing a decision, one that could come as soon as Monday. "Following these discussions, we now have a pretty clear picture of the landscape as it presently exists," Sloane said. "We anticipate talking further tomorrow and hope we'll be able to have a final decision very soon." The New York Post had reported the Mets matched the Rangers' offer. The Post's source indicated both Florida and the Mets have told Sloane they could make comparable offers -- and claimed the two NL East teams are "neck and neck" for Delgado, with a resolution expected shortly. Publicly, the Marlins have said they won't offer much beyond three years and $35 million. And the New York Daily News reported the Orioles made Delgado the most lucrative offer yet -- four years for more than $12 million a year. Delgado met in Puerto Rico with the Mets on Thursday and with Rangers owner Tom Hicks and his staff on Friday. Delgado met with the Marlins in Florida on Jan. 15. The 32-year-old Delgado would be counted on to fortify the lineup of whichever team he selects. He hit .269 last season for Toronto with 32 homers and 99 RBIs. Delgado and outfielder Magglio Ordonez, who is coming off an injury-shortened season with the Chicago White Sox, are the last elite free agents who remain unsigned. Sloane indicated Friday that the Rangers made an impressive offer, saying then: "Tom Hicks said that he was going to come to Puerto Rico and give it his best shot. He did all that and more." New York already has signed two major free agents, giving a $53 million, four-year contract to right-hander Pedro Martinez and a $119 million, seven-year deal to outfielder Carlos Beltran. Delgado would provide protection for Mike Piazza in the Mets' batting order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DerangedHermit 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Sunday, January 23, 2005 ESPN.com news services The number of teams vying for Carlos Delgado was reduced from four to two teams Sunday night. Delgado's agent, David Sloane, told ESPN's Karl Ravech that the New York Mets were pulling out of the running for the free agent first baseman. *SNIP* The New York Post had reported the Mets matched the Rangers' offer. The Post's source indicated both Florida and the Mets have told Sloane they could make comparable offers -- and claimed the two NL East teams are "neck and neck" for Delgado, with a resolution expected shortly. Publicly, the Marlins have said they won't offer much beyond three years and $35 million. *SNIP* New York already has signed two major free agents, giving a $53 million, four-year contract to right-hander Pedro Martinez and a $119 million, seven-year deal to outfielder Carlos Beltran. Delgado would provide protection for Mike Piazza in the Mets' batting order. That article contradicts itself...Baltimore Sun reports it was the Orioles and Rangers pulling out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 NICE. I can't believe he makes his official decision tomorrow. He said he wants to play for a team with a chance at winning the championship. So, the way I see it, he either signs with the Marlins or proves himself a greedy liar. I thought for sure he was going to Texas after the developments of the past few days. I'm thrilled. Some other Marlins fans I know aren't that happy because of Jason Stokes, but I think he's not as good as some people think. I love this signing and it was the one I was hoping for since October. I just pray that it actually happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 The New York Times also says the Orioles pulled out although their article still had the Mets in it but the Mets pulling out seems to be a late breaking story. So looks like it will be the Marlins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smues Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Bah another big name free agent going into the NL East. As if I wasn't already worried enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest OSIcon Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Baltimore Sun reports it was the Orioles and Rangers pulling out. They don't. The article there (posted 10:30 tonight) says the Mets exceeded the Rangers offer and that the Orioles are holding firm on their 3 year, 30 million dollar deal (making no mention of a 4 year, 48 million dollar deal). Of course, it still contradicts what ESPN is reporting..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mik 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Well, I take stock in what ESPN is saying because it comes right from David Sloane. He's calling all the shots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2005 Well, I take stock in what ESPN is saying dumbass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites